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[Pep]

Interesting interview in L'Equipe with Alonso.

It's a pity I only have some excerpts from As (http://www.as.com/mo...dasdaimot_3/Tes)

"Being in the same team with a driver like Raikkonen is perfectly possible. If you are the team boss you want to have the best, it's the best that can happen to a team. So you get two valid options to win the Championship."

"Among the contenders to the title -Massa, Raikkonen and Hamilton- he's the best driver(I guess he refers to Kimi). He's the most complete, very quick and the best under pressure. Maybe Kubica, in my opinion, is the best of all. Robert won everything in karts. For me he's the best in the paddock, although his BMW is not trully ready to win."

Answering about Rossi, who praised Alonso as a driver: "Valentino is very funny. He was setting up a competition in motorbike and in a F1 car, and he wanted to beat me. And I didn't accept, I wouldn't have been able to ride the motorbike more than 5 meters!" he laughs. "I respect Valentino a lot and I enjoy watching him. I don't have any problem with him".

If somebody finds the hole interview, please post. Thanks!

[Imperial]

It's great how Fernando just a couple of days ago was talking about the future and basically intimating that it isn't really possible to talk about the future, yet here we are a couple of days later with a thread title that is completely loaded with suggestion that he will be with Raikkonen at Ferrari at some point.

[Tigershark]

We have to remember Alonso didn't just sit down behind his desk like we are and started writing these things, he was responding to questions.

His comments about Kubica are interesting though, the Pole seems to be quite respected among his fellow drivers.

[Galko877]

He seems desperate to get out of Renault, if he would accept an equal teammate.

But I don't think that will ever happen (see Montezemolo's comments on it) and I think Alonso knows it, so he can make statements like this.

[Pep]

Originally posted by Tigershark
We have to remember Alonso didn't just sit down behind his desk like we are and started writing these things, he was responding to questions.

His comments about Kubica are interesting though, the Pole seems to be quite respected among his fellow drivers.

Yes, when Kubika made his debut in F1 I remembered he told Lobato in Tele5 (spanish tv) to watch that driver and that he thought he had tremendous talent. They seem to be friends also.

[Arion]

Originally posted by Tigershark
We have to remember Alonso didn't just sit down behind his desk like we are and started writing these things, he was responding to questions.

His comments about Kubica are interesting though, the Pole seems to be quite respected among his fellow drivers.

Alonso said it more than once, they're good friends. I think Ferrari should believe Alonso and sign Kubica, "the best of all".

[pingu666]

Originally posted by Arion


Alonso said it more than once, they're good friends. I think Ferrari should believe Alonso and sign Kubica, "the best of all".

imagine the look on alonso's face

[awake27]

Alonso trying to build a bridge with Ferrari.

[Galko877]

Well, Alonso doesn't really trust Renault IMO. He will make everything in his power to make them improve while he is there because he cannot be sure where he will be in the next years and maybe it's Renault, so they have to improve, but I don't think he sees them as Champions in the next few years and I have no doubts on my mind he will jump ship as soon as Ferrari or BMW offers him a contract. He never really trusted Renault's future, not even when they were Champions...

I also think Ferrari is his preferred option - or at least the team where the other driver is not called Kubica (in case Kubica goes to Ferrari, Alonso will go to BMW IMO). Even though I think his praising of Kubica as "the best" has to do with their friendship, but I think he has a point. I would say this year it was Kubica who has done the best job of all drivers. He is fast and consistent and HUNGRY, so I can imagine Alonso would rather want to be with Kimi in a team than with Robert. Kimi is rated highly and he is the WDC but Massa is proving again and again he is not unbeatable.
I think Alonso thinks if Massa can do that he would be able to do that even more often and beat him over the season. Especially that Kimi doesn't seem so hungry any more, he is contemplating retirement etc.

I think at this point being Kimi's teammate offers more to win and less to lose than being Kubica's. If he beats Kimi, he will beat a WDC teammate, if he loses to him he loses to another, very higly rated WDC who has more experience with the team. With Kubica maybe there's more risk for less reward as Kubica is not yet WDC, generally not as highly rated as Kimi, but I'm not sure at all he wouldn't be a more dangerous rival than the recent Kimi!

And especially because of that I'm not sure if Kimi should be getting into such a fight, unless it motivates him very much to beat Alonso in the same team and go out as the undisputed best. If that can make him the motivated and hungry Kimi he was at McLaren then it would be an interesting fight. If not, there's no use doing it as a motivated and hungry Alonso will wipe the floor with an unmotivated and retirement-thinking Kimi.

But it's just playing with thoughts because as I said, I don't beleive an Alonso-Kimi pairing will happen at Ferrari. Alonso-Massa is more likely, when Kimi retires.

[shonguiz]

Cette saison, n’avez-vous pas l’impression de jouer en Deuxième Division ?
(Sourire.) Non, je ne le dirai pas comme ça. Nous sommes en milieu de tableau, avec le risque de tomber en Deuxième Division… mais avec une qualification pour l’UEFA à notre portée, à condition de nous accrocher. Il est certain que ce n’est pas simple. Pour moi qui avais pris l’habitude de me battre pour le titre depuis pas mal d’années ce n’est pas une situation agréable. Enfin bon, il faut vivre avec. Ce n’est surtout pas le moment de lâcher prise. Au contraire, maintenant plus que jamais, il faut tout donner. J’ai le devoir d’arracher tout ce que je peux de cette voiture pour aider l’écurie à revenir au sommet.

Vous vous attendiez à mieux tout de même juste avant le début de saison ?
Oui, et c’est pour cela que je me suis senti frustré sur le coup, en Australie et en Malaisie. Nous pensions que la R 28 serait plus proche des BMW. Une fois que nous avons compris et fait le point, il n’était pas question de camper sur nos désillusions.

N’avez-vous pas le sentiment de perdre votre temps cette saison ?
Non, car je sais que la Formule 1 n’est pas une discipline facile.Même Michael Schumacher, même Ferrari ont traversé plusieurs années sans titre. Je vais en profiter pour enrichir mon expérience de pilote et m’améliorer dans des domaines où je n’avais pas eu l’occasion de le faire. L’an dernier, par exemple, je n’avais jamais connu la pression de la Q2 (la deuxième des trois phases qualificatives). Or il règne une sacrée tension quand on doit se battre au milieu d’un groupe très serré pour atteindre la Q3. Le tour parfait, il faut déjà le faire en Q2, sinon on est cuit. L’an dernier, c’était tellement facile : un bon tour en Q3 me valait une place sur la première ligne. Ce que je suis en train d’apprendre aujourd’hui me sera de toute manière utile à l’avenir, quoi qu’il arrive. Voyez : en Australie, je n’ai pas réussi à intégrer la Q3, mais la leçon m’a servi. Depuis, ce n’est plus arrivé.

Pourriez-vous vous contenter longtemps de courir sans gagner ?
(Rire.) C’est quand même mieux de gagner ! On peut être content d’une course qu’on n’a pas remportée. Il n’empêche, ce qui compte avant tout dans le sport, c’est la victoire.

Quand pensez-vous que Renault vous permettra de renouer avec elle ?
Je n’en sais rien. Avec l’entrée en vigueur du nouveau règlement technique, les cartes ont une chance d’être redistribuées l’an prochain. Tout le monde va repartir de zéro. Cela peut être une occasion pour Renault d’une remise à niveau. Ils ont perdu une année en 2007, et sans changement de règlement, je ne vois guère comment ils pourraient sortir de ce cycle.

Selon vous, que s’est-il passé chez Renault en 2007 ? Où se sont-ils égarés ?
D’après ce que je sais, ils ont perdu leur temps à tenter de résoudre un problème aérodynamique. Je crois que la soufflerie leur a donné des soucis. Et tout s’est enchainé. En résumé, disons que si les voitures gagnent en moyenne entre 10 et 15% d’adhérence chaque année, l’an passé Renault a gagné zéro. Et le déficit, on peut le trainer longtemps. La R28 en souffre encore, clairement. Alors, que faire ? Travailler. Travailler mieux que les autres, pour essayer de gagner 25% quand la concurrence, elle, aura visé 15%. Voilà, c’est la situation dans laquelle nous nous trouvons aujourd’hui. Pas facile.

Pensez-vous que Renault a réellement les moyens de ses ambitions ? L’écurie peut-elle revenir au sommet tout en ayant pour priorité de faire des économies ?
Question difficile... Je pense, en fait je sais, que Renault a moins de personnel que d’autres équipes, moins de budget, et peut-être moins de moyens en termes d’équipement industriel, de soufflerie, d’outils de simulation, etc. Dans ce cas, évidemment, le défi est très, très gros… Mais après tout, Renault l’a déjà fait : nous avons gagné avec moins de moyens que les autres. O.K., le contexte a encore évolué depuis. Mais je crois qu’ils peuvent y arriver de nouveau. La F 1 n’est pas une science exacte ; il y a une part de… (il hésite) de magie, d’alchimie, de feeling. On ne sait jamais…

Où se situe l’actuel déficit de la R28 ?
C’est purement un problème d’adhérence. Nous n’avons pas de soucis d’équilibre. Un peu de sous-virage parfois, ou de survirage, que l’on corrige avec les réglages. En revanche, au freinage la voiture est instable, à l’accélération les pneus patinent, en ligne droite on est trop lent parce qu’on a trop de trainée aérodynamique, ou pas assez de puissance. Cela doit jouer sur 10% par rapport à la concurrence. Et ces 10%, si on les trouvait, nous ramèneraient dans le coup. Les gens bossent sans relâche dans nos usines… Seulement, nos adversaires ne chôment pas non plus !

Flavio Briatore a également dénoncé le moteur…
Je pense que le moteur n’est pas le meilleur du moment. Mais il ne lui manque pas grand-chose. Le gel des moteurs ne nous aide pas. Toutefois, dans la faible marge d’intervention qui subsiste, ils ont un programme de travail très agressif à Viry-Châtillon. Et si les ingénieurs arrivaient à grappiller un petit peu par-ci, un petit peu par-là, ce serait assez pour nous permettre de faire la différence par rapport à ce que nous avons actuellement.

Vous imaginez-vous rester avec Renault l’an prochain ?
(Dubitatif.) Difficile de dire quoi que ce soit pour l’instant… On n’a disputé que six courses. Il sera temps de décider vers la fin du Championnat. Évidemment, je vais me poser la question, parce que cette année n’est pas très intéressante pour moi. Pour l’instant, je me concentre sur l’auto. Il y a beaucoup à faire, et penser à autre chose me perturbe. Je me préoccuperai de mon avenir un peu plus tard.

Après une saison humainement difficile en 2007, et loin de toute pression désormais, vous rechargez au moins les batteries ?
Oui, et ça c’est le bon côté des choses. Cette année, je suis heureux dans mon équipe, heureux dans le paddock, heureux dans ma voiture. Je goûte la vie. J’en profite. O.K., je termine les Grands Prix huitième ou dixième, mais je sens une équipe autour de moi, qui se donne sans réserve pour apporter les modifications que je demande, qui fait vite pour me permettre de tourner le plus possible en piste. Oui, tout ça, c’est vraiment bien. Je me ressource, et l’an prochain, je serai plus fort que jamais.

Kimi Räikkönen semble ne pas vouloir s’éterniser en F 1. Qu’en pensez-vous ?
C’est une réflexion très personnelle… Parfois dans une carrière, on se dit qu’on en a assez, et qu’on va s’arrêter. Et puis, les choses évoluent, et finalement on éprouve le besoin de rester. C’est ce que je ressens pour ma part, aujourd’hui. Pourtant, il y a deux ans, je pensais vraiment que j’allais mettre un terme à ma carrière assez tôt ; j’avais remporté deux titres, et envie peut-être d’un nouveau défi, ailleurs qu’en F 1. Maintenant, je sais que je vais rester parce que je veux gagner. Je vais gagner à nouveau et prouver que je suis le meilleur.

En début de saison, vous donniez Kimi Räikkönen favori pour le titre. Et maintenant ?
Toujours lui. Des trois candidats, il est le meilleur, le plus complet. Très rapide, très calme, constant, une résistance totale à la pression. Je pense que le titre va se jouer entre lui, Massa et Hamilton. Mais, à mon avis, le meilleur de tous, c’est peut-être bien Kubica. Robert courait dans la même équipe que moi en kart ; pas dans la même catégorie car j’étais un peu plus âgé. Et il a toujours tout gagné. Oui, je crois que le meilleur, ici, dans ce paddock, c’est lui. Mais BMW n’est pas tout à fait prêt, cette année, à l’emmener vers le titre.

Note that he confirms that their engine is lagging behind the competition.

[Devero]

Originally posted by awake27
Alonso trying to build a bridge with Ferrari.

Nice try.

How it is related with proclamation of Kubica being the best driver in the paddock?

[Galko877]

BTW, I wonder when he says Kubica is the best, does that include himself? So does he think Kubica is even better than him? I don't think he really thinks so.

[postajegenye]

Originally posted by Galko877
BTW, I wonder when he says Kubica is the best, does that include himself? So does he think Kubica is even better than him? I don't think he really thinks so.

... and maybe he doesn't really think Kubica is the best, he just says that because they're friends or he doesn't wanna say Hamilton ;)
It doesn't matter what they say in an interview, we'll never know what they really think. I guess most of the drivers rate themselves as the best. But I can't imagine Alonso saying that about himself, or indeed any driver saying that about themselves.

[thuGG]

Well, Webber is also very good friend of Alonso, but Fernando doesn't even mention him in the group of the best.

[Devero]

Originally posted by thuGG
Well, Webber is also very good friend of Alonso, but Fernando doesn't even mention him in the group of the best.

The best friend is Trulli. Fisichella and Kovalainen are very close to Alonso either.

[shonguiz]

Didn't one of autosport's covers said that Rob was the man that Lewis feared the most ?

[Devero]

Originally posted by shonguiz
Didn't one of autosport's covers said that Rob was the man that Lewis feared the most ?

At least I remembered for certain an interview with Hamster before 2007 season started. On the direct question on abilities of Kubica, Lewis answered promptly: " The future world champion, for sure".

[Galko877]

Originally posted by Devero


At least I remembered for certain an interview with Hamster before 2007 season started. On the direct question on abilities of Kubica, Lewis answered promptly: " The future world champion, for sure".

Very interesting how highly rated he is among fellow drivers. But so were Fisichella and Trulli. (Wasn't Fisi once voted as the best of the field by the other drivers?) I think good karting record is what impresses fellow drivers.

However with Robert I think it is for real! Forget the karting record, now he is proving himself in F1 as well. He really is a very exciting talent. He is not just fast and not just occasionaly but always and makes few errors.

[Imperial]

Originally posted by shonguiz
Didn't one of autosport's covers said that Rob was the man that Lewis feared the most ?

Correct, but that's just because Autosport need to have "Lewis" written on the front cover of every issue.

[Devero]

Originally posted by Galko877


Very interesting how highly rated he is among fellow drivers. But so were Fisichella and Trulli. (Wasn't Fisi once voted as the best of the field by the other drivers?) I think good karting record is what impresses fellow drivers.

However with Robert I think it is for real! Forget the karting record, now he is proving himself in F1 as well. He really is a very exciting talent. He is not just fast and not just occasionaly but always and makes few errors.

To tell the truth I am personally is not so excited on Kubica.

When he started in 2006 he was quick right away but did too many mistakes. In 2007 though he lost so badly to Heidfeld the whole season that I did not know what think of him. I was disappointed. Nick is a very good driver, higher than average but not a wdc material even for single wdc shot. And Kubica completely got lost last yer.

This year Robert is doing fine currently but to rate him even on par with hamilton and kimi is a bit too much albeit to put him on top of all.

He did not win a single gp yet while he has a very good car now.

[Galko877]

Originally posted by Devero


To tell the truth I am personally is not so excited on Kubica.

When he started in 2006 he was quick right away but did too many mistakes. In 2007 though he lost so badly to Heidfeld the whole season that I did not know what think of him. I was disappointed. Nick is a very good driver, higher than average but not a wdc material even for single wdc shot. And Kubica completely got lost last yer.

This year Robert is doing fine currently but to rate him even on par with hamilton and kimi is a bit too much albeit to put him on top of all.

He did not win a single gp yet while he has a very good car now.

Well, I wasn't that impressed by Alonso's 2004 season and how he fared against Trulli, so I don't want to judge Robert on his 2007 season or his rookie season. There's something that called learning process and not everybody has the opportunity to arrive in F1 as prepared as Hamilton.

At the moment it's hard to dispute Kubica has done the best job of the 2008 season. Of course it's arguable if speed-wise he is brining everything out of the BMW, compared to Heidfeld he seems to, but you never know if there wasn't a driver who could bring out more. But that's true to every driver: you can only compare him to his teammate. On the other hand he is the only top driver who hasn't made a major error yet this season.

[bankoq]

Originally posted by Devero
In 2007 though he lost so badly to Heidfeld the whole season that I did not know what think of him. I was disappointed.

Then you haven't analyzed 2007 season good enough. Every time when there were no problems with the car Robert was faster than Nick. You must also consider that his previous RE was a rookie, and BMW were usually experimenting with him not with Nick (probably to gain experience).

Robert has quite a good car but still 0.3-0.5s slower than McLaren & Ferrari. No-one can overcome such advantage, maybe in 70s or 80s but not in today's F1.

You probably want to compare him to Hamilton? Well there was a race (F3 Macau) were they both competed for the same team, and Robert had the upper hand. I'm 100% sure he's as good as top guys like Alonso, Lewis or Kimi.

All he lacks is a car as fast as The Reds or Silver Arrows, and I strongly believe he can dominate like Schumacher did(but I don't really want it to happen ).

[postajegenye]

Originally posted by Devero


The best friend is Trulli. Fisichella and Kovalainen are very close to Alonso either.

I think Trulli was when they were team mates. Now, I'm pretty sure Kubica is the closest to him... I'm not sure we can call him "friends" but they seem to spend quite much time together.

[Galko877]

Originally posted by postajegenye


I think Trulli was when they were team mates. Now, I'm pretty sure Kubica is the closest to him... I'm not we can call him "friends" but they seem to spend quite much time together.

That's correct. They even spend some free time together, karting, playing cards etc.

[RSNS]

schongiz:

Thank you. A very interesting interview. It covers Alonso's need for affection, Renault troubles (aerodynamic chiefly, due to lack of grip, both in braking and acceleration) and what he says about Raikkonen's retirement is interesting: sometimes one wants to quit, but after a setback one wants to prove again to be the best.

He also says he has no idea of where he (Alonso) will be next year. Open field for the use of the imagination by inquisitive forumers (aka paranoid theories);)

I think He means Kubica is the best of them all - perhaps even himself - although he (Alonso) still wants to show he is the best driver. Not as illogical as may seem: Kubika may be the best in the grid but Alonso still wants to surpass himself and beat him. This is the right attitude for a driver.

[postajegenye]

Someone should translate this article into English

[kar]

I'm starting to think Alonso should be signed for 2009, not 2010.

[Devero]

Originally posted by Galko877

Well, I wasn't that impressed by Alonso's 2004 season and how he fared against Trulli,

Before 2004 there was 2001 and 2003. And besides Alonso did not lose to Trulli 23 points despite all Alonso`s bad luck and mistakes.
Under good analysys it is clear that Alonso was the better driver than Jarno even in 2004 through the season which was the worst one for Alonso even if he was so young then.

Kubica was never that impressive.

[postajegenye]

Originally posted by Devero




Kubica was never that impressive.

Until this year. Not everyone is at his best in his firt years... drivers can always learn, and if Kubica keeps learning and getting better, why couldn't he become the best?

[Galko877]

Originally posted by Devero


Before 2004 there was 2001 and 2003. And besides Alonso did not lose to Trulli 23 points despite all Alonso`s bad luck and mistakes.
Under good analysys it is clear that Alonso was the better driver than Jarno even in 2004 through the season which was the worst one for Alonso even if he was so young then.

Kubica was never that impressive.

It was extremely close and Trulli is IMO a very average driver. I wasn't impressed by Alonso getting as much beating from Trulli as he did in 2004. It's a bit like Kimi and Massa now. I'm not impressed by Kimi, even if he emerged on top in 2007 and that by a good points margin to Massa.

But Alonso was in only his 3rd full season then and I think he was a much better driver from 2005 on as he gained confidence from his titles. Let's give this chance to Kubica too and not judge him on his first one and a half season!

[wingwalker]

Kubica making too many mistakes in his first season is a myth imo. He spun twice in Hungary (but wasn't that the first time he drove F1 car in wet?) but almost everyone did. Other than that he gambled with taking dry tyres in China, so he again went off twice during the out lap but it's more error of judgment than a driving one (and his team should know better than a guy who is driving his 4th race). Other than that, I think he went off in Japan and that's it. He completed all the races. That would be perfectly acceptable for every driver, let alone a rookie. Just look at what Rosberg was doing in that period.


BTW, someone posted that there are rumors that BMW is interested in Rosberg. There might be some interesting changes after this season.

[Devero]

Originally posted by Galko877

It was extremely close and Trulli is IMO a very average driver. I wasn't impressed by Alonso getting as much beating from Trulli as he did in 2004. It's a bit like Kimi and Massa now. I'm not impressed by Kimi, even if he emerged on top in 2007 and that by a good points margin to Massa.

Nick has not won a race anywhere in F1 yet as he has been in business since 2000. Jarno has won in Monaco from pole with both pole and race win completely on his merit with having 3rd-4th best car at that time.

That is something, I tell you.;)

Originally posted by Galko877

But Alonso was in only his 3rd full season then and I think he was a much better driver from 2005 on as he gained confidence from his titles. Let's give this chance to Kubica too and not judge him on his first one and a half season!

We will see

[Galko877]

Originally posted by Devero


Nick has not won a race anywhere in F1 yet as he has been in business since 2000. Jarno has won in Monaco from pole with both pole and race win completely on his merit with having 3rd-4th best car at that time.

That is something, I tell you.;)

Monaco is always a special track not necessarily favouring the cars which are the best on other circuits. In that Monaco race I think Renault were the best (as they were in Hungary 2003 - note: a track that's similar to Monaco!). It could have easily been a Renault 1-2 if Alonso hadn't crashed with Ralf.
When Trulli and Ralf were teammates, Ralf beat him in their first two seasons together. I don't see a reason to rate Trulli higher than average, to be honest.

But the thread is not about Trulli.

[Ferrim]

Originally posted by Galko877
It could have easily been a Renault 1-2 if Alonso hadn't crashed with Ralf.

Which he actually didn't.;)

[awake27]

Originally posted by Devero


Nice try.

How it is related with proclamation of Kubica being the best driver in the paddock?

"Being in the same team with a driver like Raikkonen is perfectly possible. If you are the team boss you want to have the best, it's the best that can happen to a team. So you get two valid options to win the Championship."

This is the related thing I'm talking about.

[lukywill]

alonso already signed ferrari for 2010. now he is pressing renault to deliver something in 09.

[F1Champion]

I would love to see Kubica paired with Massa if and I stress IF Kimi decides to leave.

[ForMules]

Originally posted by Galko877
Well, Alonso doesn't really trust Renault IMO. He will make everything in his power to make them improve while he is there because he cannot be sure where he will be in the next years and maybe it's Renault, so they have to improve, but I don't think he sees them as Champions in the next few years and I have no doubts on my mind he will jump ship as soon as Ferrari or BMW offers him a contract. He never really trusted Renault's future, not even when they were Champions...

I also think Ferrari is his preferred option - or at least the team where the other driver is not called Kubica (in case Kubica goes to Ferrari, Alonso will go to BMW IMO). Even though I think his praising of Kubica as "the best" has to do with their friendship, but I think he has a point. I would say this year it was Kubica who has done the best job of all drivers. He is fast and consistent and HUNGRY, so I can imagine Alonso would rather want to be with Kimi in a team than with Robert. Kimi is rated highly and he is the WDC but Massa is proving again and again he is not unbeatable.
I think Alonso thinks if Massa can do that he would be able to do that even more often and beat him over the season. Especially that Kimi doesn't seem so hungry any more, he is contemplating retirement etc.

I think at this point being Kimi's teammate offers more to win and less to lose than being Kubica's. If he beats Kimi, he will beat a WDC teammate, if he loses to him he loses to another, very higly rated WDC who has more experience with the team. With Kubica maybe there's more risk for less reward as Kubica is not yet WDC, generally not as highly rated as Kimi, but I'm not sure at all he wouldn't be a more dangerous rival than the recent Kimi!

And especially because of that I'm not sure if Kimi should be getting into such a fight, unless it motivates him very much to beat Alonso in the same team and go out as the undisputed best. If that can make him the motivated and hungry Kimi he was at McLaren then it would be an interesting fight. If not, there's no use doing it as a motivated and hungry Alonso will wipe the floor with an unmotivated and retirement-thinking Kimi.

But it's just playing with thoughts because as I said, I don't beleive an Alonso-Kimi pairing will happen at Ferrari. Alonso-Massa is more likely, when Kimi retires.

a perfect fanboy comment,

don't see alonso talking about top notch partner putting his renault futur in dire, as about ferrari, lets the years to come prove that it will not be the "before shum" ones for them!

[F1Fanatic.co.uk]

Originally posted by Pep
Being in the same team with a driver like Raikkonen is perfectly possible. If you are the team boss you want to have the best, it's the best that can happen to a team. So you get two valid options to win the Championship.

How ironic.

[ForMules]

Originally posted by lukywill
alonso already signed ferrari for 2010. now he is pressing renault to deliver something in 09.

Alonso is best payed pilot of the chapionship, with a team who knows how to be world champ, i doubt that any ferrari move is on the menu!

[Galko877]

Originally posted by Ferrim


Which he actually didn't.;)

True, he crashed with the wall instead, my mistake.

[Galko877]

Originally posted by ForMules


a perfect fanboy comment,

Are Alonso fans capable of anything else than calling everybody a "fanboy" who they don't agree with? I wonder why it's always the biggest fanboys who call others that?

[lukywill]

Originally posted by ForMules


Alonso is best payed pilot of the chapionship, with a team who knows how to be world champ, i doubt that any ferrari move is on the menu!

money don´t buy much. renault and alonso were champions for peanuts.

today renault seems a resting fat lady with no interests other than take a full rest.

[airwise]

Why would El Fred want to team up with Kimi? Given that Hamilton beat him and he reckons Kimi is better than Hamilton, surely he must realise he'd be trailing around picking up the pieces?

Kubica is a wonderful driver to watch but bad for business and unlikely to sell newspapers. For that reason alone I would sadly expect him to struggle to become a regular F1 winner.

[Galko877]

Originally posted by airwise

Kubica is a wonderful driver to watch but bad for business and unlikely to sell newspapers. For that reason alone I would sadly expect him to struggle to become a regular F1 winner.

What do you mean? That F1 is fixed and only those drivers can win GPs regularly who sell papers?

[giacomo]

Originally posted by airwise

Kubica is a wonderful driver to watch but bad for business and unlikely to sell newspapers. For that reason alone I would sadly expect him to struggle to become a regular F1 winner.

Totally wrong. He could be the key to Eastern Europe, just like Schumacher was the key to Germany.

[Cheap Wine Alesi]

Originally posted by giacomo
Totally wrong. He could be the key to Eastern Europe, just like Schumacher was the key to Germany.

Except Eastern Europe doesn`t have the finances Germany has.

[giacomo]

Originally posted by Cheap Wine Alesi

Except Eastern Europe doesn`t have the finances Germany has.

I recommend to read some articles concerning the economic growth in Eastern Europe:
http://www.google.at...rn europe&meta=