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[Ralf Pickel]

According to Bill Boddys Story of Brooklands Eddie Hall was entered in at least two evnts at Brooklands with his Derby Bentley.
First race mentioned in the book was the Sept. 1935 BRDC 500 Mile Race, second one the Sept. 1936 BRDC 500 Mile Race.
Unfortunately there are no further infos about his results in those races (I do have the 1950 edition of the book).
Would anybody have any further informations.

Also, and this would be my main question - are there any photos of the car (chassis B35AE - his semi-works 3 1/2, later 4 1/4 Derby Bentley).

Since there must have been a change of bodys on the car - he changed the Potts body to the later, more well known TT and Le Mans used one for LM 1936 - any photos/informations would be highly appreciated.

Thank you all in advance for any help.

Ralf

[David Birchall]

Ralf, surely this car is well documented-in most of the books on Derby Bentleys? Is it just the earlier body you are looking for photos of? Have you seen the Profile Publications issue on the Derby Bentleys?

[raceannouncer2003]

According to Martin Krejci's site, Hall did not arrive at Brooklands in 1935, and did not start in 1936. See the following link:

http://www.oldracing...s...e Hall (GB)

As for Le Mans, apparently there wasn't a race in 1936, but Hall ran the Bentley there in 1950. Photos here:

http://www.lemans-hi...11&equipa_seq=0

Vince H.

[Robin Fairservice]

In the book "BritishRacing Green" but Klemantaski and Frostick there is a picture described as the Hay's Bentley at Le Mans in 1949:



and a picture described as the Hall Bentley at Le Mans in 1950:



Are these the same car?

[raceannouncer2003]

Originally posted by Robin Fairservice
In the book "BritishRacing Green" but Klemantaski and Frostick there is a picture described as the Hay's Bentley at Le Mans in 1949:



and a picture described as the Hall Bentley at Le Mans in 1950:



Are these the same car?

Apparently not. It seems the Hay 1949 Bentley was a 4 1/4 Corniche 1939 (Paulin bodywork), chassis number B27LE, while the Hall 1950 car was a TT 1934 (Rolls Bentley Corniche), chassis number B35AE.

Vince H.

[Ralf Pickel]

First of all, thank you for your answers.
@ David - yes, the car is fairly good covered in books etc., though it is no comparison (unfortunately) to the Bentleys of the "real" (WO) era.
I have pictures of the different bodys, I just was hoping for some infos about the car running at Brooklands.
@ Vince - this, of course, then does make it clear, why there are no further infos about the Brooklands exploits of Mr. Hall in his Bentley. He obviously never used the car there (he raced different MGs quite successfully, though).
Thank you for that link.
@ Robin, the first car is the famous Embiricos Bentley, which raced at LM a few times.
The second picture does show the Eddie Hall car in its final style for LM after the war.

Regards,
Ralf

[David McKinney]

Originally posted by Ralf Pickel
@ Vince - this, of course, then does make it clear, why there are no further infos about the Brooklands exploits of Mr. Hall in his Bentley. He obviously never used the car there (he raced different MGs quite successfully, though).

The 500 Miles race wasn't the only event held at Brooklands each year
I'd be surprised if Hall didn'te race the Bentley in other Brooklands races

[fbarrett]

Friends:

By pure coincidence, I'm presently editing car descriptions for the 2008 Colorado Grand route book, and Miles Collier plans to bring this car, described as follows:

This 4¼-liter Bentley, B35AE, was the only Bentley ever built by Rolls-Royce that was raced with the assistance of the Derby factory. Unable to convince Rolls-Royce to produce a racing car, E.R. “Eddie” Hall commissioned Derby to modify this car to enter Britain’s Tourist Trophy. After three successive entries, Rolls replaced the engine with a 163-bhp 4-1/4-liter unit in 1936, the same year Hall ordered the new streamlined body from Offord & Sons. The Rolls-Bentley’s 80.81-mph average was the fastest in the 1936 Tourist Trophy. Hall’s last event in it was Le Mans in 1950, where the Bentley averaged 82.951 mph and finished eighth overall amid a field dominated by far newer cars.

Frank

[Jack-the-Lad]

Hi, Ralf. Nice to see you here. Thanks for the magazine you sent me.

Hi, Frank. Check you inbox.

Jack

[Ralf Pickel]

Originally posted by David McKinney

The 500 Miles race wasn't the only event held at Brooklands each year
I'd be surprised if Hall didn'te race the Bentley in other Brooklands races

Problem is, with the exception of the 500 Mile race, I have never seen any other mentioning of an entry in other races in Brooklands.
At least W. Boddy does not give any further infos.

My main interest would be - did Hall run the car in Brooklands without cycle wings / headlamps ?

Ralf

[Ralf Pickel]

Originally posted by Jack-the-Lad
Hi, Ralf. Nice to see you here. Thanks for the magazine you sent me.

Hi, Frank. Check you inbox.

Jack

Jack - you´re welcome.
And thank you again for the material.

Ralf

[Vitesse2]

Big Bentleys aren't really my thing, but - in addition to the obvious TT entries - Hall was at least in the entry list for a handicap at the 1935 Nuffield Trophy meeting at Donington and also at Shelsley Walsh on September 12th 1936. If he ran in the latter, then perhaps it has some bearing on his non-appearance at Brooklands the following Saturday.

I haven't come across any other Brooklands entries though.

[VDP]

E Hall was but out topic entrant at the 24 Hours of Spa Francorchamps in 1936 but was DNA

Robert

PS I would be glad to see a picture of the car in his 1935/36 form