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[Keir]

In the movies "Grand Prix" and "Le Mans",
who do you feel is the best looking actress.
For me, it's Louise Edlind, from "Le Mans",
with Francoise Hardy from "Grand Prix" a close second.
Now, this should be a fun topic!!!

[ZippyD]

I think the babe who ask Hugo about the 37 Targa Florio is the best. Is that you Delaney?

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[Keir]

Of course it's me.
I thought this topic would get more attention. Cars, women, racing!!!
Maybe everyone is dusting through their old video tapes.
Louise Edlind is a sight to behold!
I thought you were Slappy???

[ZippyD]

No it's Zippy. Where did you get Slappy from? Don't you remember the SCAA meeting? Or are those brain cells gone forever?

I thought the topic would generate more response also. Perhaps people are dusting off more than their vids? Wink....Wink....Nudge...Nudge....

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"Pete, Do you sometimes get tired? Lately I have been getting tired. Very tired."

[Keir]

That's SCCA , and my cells are just fine.
"Pardon me while I adjust this truss".
Hopefully, everyone will stop dusting long enough to respond.
You have way too much time on your hands.

[SteveB2]

Is Francois Hardy the one who played Mrs. Stoddard? If so, I'd vote for her. I've never seen LeMans .

I've never seen a picture of Helen Stewart, but A blurb in Autoweek got me wondering about how far the Stewart/Stoddard correlation went. JYS was talking about having an E-type on his honeymoon. "The car was fairly cramped but Helen was pretty agile. We've been married for 37 years."

[ZippyD]

Steve,
Francios Hardy is the young woman that Nino hooks up with.

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[Keir]

Steve and co.,
Pat Stoddard was played by American actress Jessica Walter, later famous for her role in "Play Misty for Me", with Clint Eastwood.
Helen Stewart is a very good looking women to this day, although I can't back Jackie up on her agility. The "wee Scot" could always turn a ham and egg sandwich into a banquet!!
As for "Le Mans", shame, shame!!!
It is one of the few motor racing movies that really spends it's time with the racing,
it should be required watching.

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[ZippyD]

Though not from the movies Grand Prix or Le Mans, I would like to vote for Marthe Keller in the movie Boby Dearfield. She was hot in a funky kind of way. Hubba!!! Hubba!!!

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"Pete, Do you sometimes get tired? Of the racing? Lately I have been getting tired. Very tired."

[Keir]

Ah, "Bobby Deerfield", one of the more under
rated racing films. Snipets of it wre dead-on acurate while others took their usual dramatic licence. Pacino's performance is one of his best.
Marthe Keller drove me crazy with that heavy accent, "Did you find your Wabbits"? But I loved looking at her.

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[ZippyD]

Keir,
Did the accent drive you crazy in a sexual kind of way or in a "I can't listen to this anymore" kind of way?

MK - "Do you feel like screaming?"

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"Pete, Do you sometimes get tired? Of the racing? Lately I have been getting tired. Very tired."

[Keir]

If she didn't look so damn good, I couldn't stand to listen to her. But, I'm going to stop before I make some sort of sterotypical comment.

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[Falcadore]

While not really about the topic, after returning from a wedding I sat down to watch "Le Mans" again. I paused and rewound the whole sequence from the heartbeat-start-first lap-then musical bit three times. I never get sick of that sequence. It should be required viewing for motorsport telecast directors. While of course they may not have the camera angles that the movie had available to them. The editting is superb.

Although the pedant in me has been noticing that large sections of that brilliant first lap sequence (which depicts the circuit better than anything else I've seen) appears to have been staged or mixed from elsewhere. Ford example, the Ahrens/Elford #25 privateer Porsche 917 skips away a huge distance in the last quarter of a lap, with Delany in the #20 917 performing a similar feat on team mate Ritter in the #21 car. A gap which closes remarkably into the chicane at Dunlop. Also the cars depicted in the first lap sequence appears to change from shot to shot, with some cars obviously unavailable for the staged filming down later. Notably the semi-factory Ferrari #12 (with the white nose) appears well up in some shots, but missing in others. Also some shots have the #25, #20, #21 Porsches chased by all four factory Ferrari 312P's, #8, #7, #5 & #6 then followed by the third factory Porsche #22 and another privateer Porsche in the #18 car with no other cars in sight when there should be. Yet in other shots we see one of the Matra's, the #12 semi-factory Ferrari and the #8 black/green Porsche 917. And one of the factory Ferrari's has obviously had a very bad start and is well back from the leaders.

And when Delaney crashes the #20 Porsche later, they've put some Gulf Porsche bodywork on the #11 Lola T70 that crashed earlier in the film. Amazing how they got it to fit.

But the film does depict well some important things about racing. Like how little visibility the driver has in the rain (one scene looking out the front of Stahlers Ferrari, we doesn't see an accident until passing it almost. Notice when cars are passing either of the two big film accidents you only see the other Gulf Porsches and factory Ferraris?

Maybe I'm watching it too much. Next time I'll just enjoy it rather than pick holes.....

I'll go watch "Rendezvous" and "Climb Dance" instead.

[karlcars]

For me the great moment in 'Le Mans' occurs before the start when McQueen reaches up and slides shut the vent window behind his seat. It immediately becomes quiet inside the car and YOU ARE THERE in the intimacy of the cockpit with McQueen. A master touch by a man who loved racing.

Staying on topic, Genevieve Page appears toward the end of 'Grand Prix' at Monza as Sarti's wife -- a consummately elegant French lady.

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[Jonathan]

Falcadore -

What is 'Climb Dance' ?

I have never heard of that one !

[Keir]

Falcadore,
Nice piece of surgery on "Le Mans".
You definitely have way too much time on your hands.
Something of interest might be the book,
"A French Kiss with Death", it details the making of the movie and all the bits in between. It's well worth the read.

Karl,
As for Ms. Paige, if her character didn't come off as a pit viper, I might have found her a bit more attractive.

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[Falcadore]

Climb Dance is the video short film of Ari Vatanen driving the 4 wheel drive, 4 wheel steer, twin turbo, hand-built Peugoet 405 Mi16 at Pikes Peak, Colorado, in the Race to the Clouds/ Breathtaking footage. Won several short film awards.

I saw a preview of a French Kiss With Death and would like to read t, along with a dozen other books I want to read The preview included an interview with Jonathan Williams.

[ZippyD]

I agree that Genevieve Page is quite the looker for a woman of her age. Hey Keir, isn't she kind of old for you? She is over 18 you know!!!

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[Keir]

I'm wondering how old Ms. Page was when "Grand Prix" was made. And yes, anyone with the title "Madame" in front of her name, is a bit on the old side for me. Even horny Nino was afraid of her.
Now you've gone and let the "cat out of the bag".
What I find amazing, is that no one has agreed with me about Louise Edlind. As a point of information, she plays Ritters' wife
in the film. As one cameraman said, "She doesn't have a bad angle."

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[Keir]

By the way, for all you Genevieve Page fans.
At the time of the filming of "GrandPrix",
Ms. Page was the ripe old age of 35.

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[ZippyD]

I think 45 is more like it.

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"Pete, Do you sometimes get tired? Of the driving? Lately I have been getting tired. Very tired."

[Ray Bell]

At one time, Channel 9 (Australia) played the odd filler when GPs were held up.
The commentator said that the Peugeot Pikes Peak thing was the most requested item of all time...

[Stephen Herbert]

Keir,

I agree Louise Edlind was the best looking actress, not only in "Grand Prix", but in any movie about racing.

[ZippyD]

How about Nicole Kidmann in 'Days of Thunder'?
Also Clark Gabel had Barbara Stanwyck in 'To Please a Lady'. Not realy a racing film but it had race cars in it.

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"Pete, Do you sometimes get tired? Of the driving? Lately I have been getting tired. Very tired."

[ZippyD]

Oh, and I forgot James Cagney had Joan Blondell in 'The Crowd Roars'.
Hubba Hubba !!! 23 skidew!!!

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[Keir]

Ms. Page was born Dec.1930, "Grand Prix"
filmed the summer of '66 - That's 35 years young.
Nicole Kidmann, no argument from me, but Louise is better looking.
Joan Blondell, I never cared for the hourglass look, myself.
Barbara Stanwyck, I don't think she was ever young.

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[Fast One]

For me it was Marthe Keller in Bobby Deerfield, maybe because I lived in Basel at the time and she was just about the only Swiss actress on the international scene. Everyone has his own idea of beauty, but for me, she was it.

[Yohbi]

I'll go for Francoise Hardy. Ya gotta love the hair.

Close second would be Ms. Keller. Love the German husky voice. Yum

[Keir]

Hey gang,
While I'm still playing the age game, here are some interesting stats.
Jessica Walter, born 1/41 - "Grand Prix" age,
25 at time of filming.looked older.
Francoise Hardy, born 1/44 - "Grand Prix" age, 22 at time of filming. looked younger.
Still working on Eva Marie Saint, I tend to think she is closer to Ms. Page's 35, than Walter's 25.
Anyone have any answers?


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[Keir]

Ok, guys,
This one surprised even me.
Eva Marie Saint, born 4/4/24.
Age during the filming of "Grand Prix"
Forty-Two. Go figure!!!!!

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[Vicuna]

Cigar smoking Natalie Wood in 'The Great Race'!!

[DOHC]

Originally posted by Stephen Herbert
Keir,

I agree Louise Edlind was the best looking actress, not only in "Grand Prix", but in any movie about racing.

I saw Lousie Edlind in a theatre play a couple of years ago. She must be 60 or so. She's still a woman of great looks!

[tyrrellp34]

What's so special on Francoise Hardy ???

[Stefan Ornerdal]

For us in Sweden, Louise Edlind is connected to a childrens movie in the 60's (by Astrid Lindgren). She acted as big sister to a couple of kids on an island in the Swedish Archipelago. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE here, knows her as big sis "Malin", not as a beautiful woman! No-one knows about "Le Mans", and definitely not about her part in the movie.

Stefan

[Paul Newby]

I think you will find that Francoise Hardy was also an accomplished singer. I haven't heard her music, but a noticed a couple of her CDs at this import record shop. We're talking the 60's here and if I recall she even played the accoustic guitar, so more than a pretty face.

If I was put my hat in the ring ...then why not the delicious Piper Laurie in Johhny Dark (crap film, but she plays an engineer!) or the fetching Odile Versois from Checkpoint.

As for Grand Prix, well Francoise Hardy is easy on the eyes but I prefer my brunnettes to be like Jessica Walter.

[dbw]

as an interesting aside....when i first saw "mrs.robinson"[anne bancroft] when "the graduate" was released,i thought she was rather old and worn out...seeing it recently she looks totally hot!!![and rather young] ...turns out she was in her thirties when it was filmed![i,however have aged badly...]

[fines]

Originally posted by Stefan Ornerdal
For us in Sweden, Louise Edlind is connected to a childrens movie in the 60's (by Astrid Lindgren). She acted as big sister to a couple of kids on an island in the Swedish Archipelago. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE here, knows her as big sis "Malin", not as a beautiful woman! No-one knows about "Le Mans", and definitely not about her part in the movie.

Stefan

Hey, is this the sister of Michel Löneberger? You know, I get called that quite a lot (we're both blond and mischievous little bastards...)


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[VAR1016]

Originally posted by tyrrellp34
What's so special on Francoise Hardy ???

At the risk of appearing ungallant, I would say that the words "Actress" and "Francoise Hardy" really do not belong in the same post!

PdeRL

[Stefan Ornerdal]

Hey, is this the sister of Michel Löneberger? You know, I get called that quite a lot (we're both blond and mischievous little bastards...)

No, she is not
I did not know that Emil i Lönneberga had a German name!
I have two daughters, both behaves like Pippi Langstrumpf, Fifi Longstocking or whatever...

Stefan

[Magee]

Too much text and not enough eye candy. Fotos please.

[DOHC]

Originally posted by Stefan Ornerdal
Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE here, knows her as big sis "Malin", not as a beautiful woman! No-one knows about "Le Mans", and definitely not about her part in the movie.

Stefan

...but both you and I must have been the age to see that "Malin" was pretty hot (but very far from indecent) in Vi på Saltkråkan. Anyway, I have a daughter too, and when she was that age, I went with her to the theatre to see another play based on an Astrid Lindgren story. And there was Louise!

Actually I had no idea she acted in Le Mans.

[ensign14]

Originally posted by Vicuna
Cigar smoking Natalie Wood in 'The Great Race'!!

Oooh, a man of taste. Not so keen on her acting, tho'.

[Doug Nye]

Originally posted by VAR1016
At the risk of appearing ungallant, I would say that the words "Actress" and "Francoise Hardy" really do not belong in the same post! PdeRL

- From my recollection of Frankenheimer's filming at Zandvoort in '66, and again at the risk of sounding un-gallant, Mam'selle 'Ardy may have captivated the camera lens but she really looked a rough spotty old piece in real life...

The actress EVERYBODY at Zandvoort seemed to be lusting after was the girl in the black or dark blue and green sarong(?)-style dress whose name - I think - was Jessica Walter. Having seen a lady of that name in later movies and TV series I find it difficult to credit she was so stunningly phwoarr in real life...

Funny thing, perception, isn't it...?.

DCN

[doc540]

Bridget Bardot, without a doubt, the most beautiful woman to have ever appeared in a racy movie.

Racy does count, doesn't it?

[VAR1016]

Originally posted by Doug Nye


- From my recollection of Frankenheimer's filming at Zandvoort in '66, and again at the risk of sounding un-gallant, Mam'selle 'Ardy may have captivated the camera lens but she really looked a rough spotty old piece in real life...

The actress EVERYBODY at Zandvoort seemed to be lusting after was the girl in the black or dark blue and green sarong(?)-style dress whose name - I think - was Jessica Walter. Having seen a lady of that name in later movies and TV series I find it difficult to credit she was so stunningly phwoarr in real life...

Funny thing, perception, isn't it...?.

DCN

Yes it is; however, as some would say in London, Francoise had quite a good "boat", as the picture above reveals

However, her singing was about as good as her acting:

"Ketch eh folling starrh an' poot eet een yourr pockett, nevaire let eet fade away" etc.

Oh dear

Meanwhile a leetle off topique, Brigitte Bardot, many years ago (before she became a friend of the earth etc.) appeared in a film in which the chief Vaselino drove a magnificent Lancia B24 spyder. Two beauties in one picture; not bad.

PdeRL

[Mike Argetsinger]

Originally posted by Doug Nye


- From my recollection of Frankenheimer's filming at Zandvoort in '66, and again at the risk of sounding un-gallant, Mam'selle 'Ardy may have captivated the camera lens but she really looked a rough spotty old piece in real life...

The actress EVERYBODY at Zandvoort seemed to be lusting after was the girl in the black or dark blue and green sarong(?)-style dress whose name - I think - was Jessica Walter. Having seen a lady of that name in later movies and TV series I find it difficult to credit she was so stunningly phwoarr in real life...

Funny thing, perception, isn't it...?.

DCN

It is funny, you're right! And I suppose reasonable people can disagree as they say . . . but I was there too when the filming was going on, around and amongst everything else, and I clearly recall being captivated by Francoise Hardy. I saw it just the opposite I suppose - I thought she looked better in real life than in the movie - and I thought Jessica Walter looked better on screen than in person. But, as you say, perception is a funny thing and that's what makes the world go 'round!

[dbw]

as i recall,jessica was clint eastwood's nemisis in "play misty for me"...

[FreddeNornemark]

Well, it seems Louise Edlind has quite a following here

These days she's a member of the Swedish Parliament as can be seen on her professional webpage.

Why not write her a line or two and remind her of Le Mans?

Would give her a good laugh if all of a sudden she got some fan mail about "Le Mans"

http://www.riksdagen...-Friberg_en.htm

[fines]

Originally posted by Stefan Ornerdal
I did not know that Emil i Lönneberga had a German name!

: I can accept the different spelling for Lönneberga, but it's got to be Michel!!!

At least you elks haven't butchered Pippi Langstrumpf's name...

[ensign14]

Was Louise Brooks ever in a car movie? The most beautiful actress ever, bar none, IMHO.