962 replies to this topic

[BoschKurve]

I'd love to know why some people are very insistent that Bruno will get the 2nd Force India seat.

There have been no news reports since the beginning of December linking him to possibly getting the FI seat. Is there something I am missing here?

[Zava]

I'd love to know why some people are very insistent that Bruno will get the 2nd Force India seat.

There have been no news reports since the beginning of December linking him to possibly getting the FI seat. Is there something I am missing here?

yup. blind hoping is what you miss.

[Tract1on]

Doesn't look like a man heading out of F1 to me

http://www.youtube.c...layer_embedded#!

[Barri]

All I'm saying is if Sutil and Bianchi are ready to go, why is FI taking so long to make an announcement? The longer it takes, the greater the chance of Bruno taking that seat. I know some reports have suggested that his chances at FI are gone, but until an official announcement is made, especially taking this long, he's still very much in the frame to me.

[V8 Fireworks]

could he not dump sponsors in order to get a drive though? Seems ridiculous to me. Caterham would have been a good seat for him I think.

How can that work!?

Unfortunately the F1 teams do not think he is as good as Webber or di Resta (with their no sponsors but low paid drives at Jaguar and Force India) let alone Alonso or Vettel, who of course did not pay for their midfield/tail end race drives either!

Without sponsors, the teams will not give Senna a drive...

[Juan Kerr]

Bruno will be in sat in the Force India next year, don't worry.

[goldenboy]

How can that work!?

Unfortunately the F1 teams do not think he is as good as Webber or di Resta (with their no sponsors but low paid drives at Jaguar and Force India) let alone Alonso or Vettel, who of course did not pay for their midfield/tail end race drives either!

Without sponsors, the teams will not give Senna a drive...

I know if you look what I posted after that post I realised my stupidity

[Barri]

I know if you look what I posted after that post I realised my stupidity

I'm sorry but Alonso is the biggest pay driver still...
Lease plan and Telefonica at Minardi
Telefonica and mutua Madrileña at Renault
Santander at Mclaren
And ofc Santander at Ferrari who brought Alonso there
nothing against Alonso, but he's always been backed
Just an example...

[Nitropower]

I'm sorry but Alonso is the biggest pay driver still...
Lease plan and Telefonica at Minardi
Telefonica and mutua Madrileña at Renault
Santander at Mclaren
And ofc Santander at Ferrari who brought Alonso there
nothing against Alonso, but he's always been backed
Just an example...

As you list them, you can see how many different big companies supported Alonso. It's not a government company supporting Maldonado or Petrov, it's a bunch of big companies, not only one, who saw a great advertising opportunity in Alonso, not one season or two, but all his career. Some of them stopped following for economical reasons, not because Alonso was not profitable. He was but the market changed.

Best drivers get the best sponsors, not the stigma some try to pin on drivers here... being sponsored is not bad. It's "bad" when you are not a good driver.

[V8 Fireworks]

I'm sorry but Alonso is the biggest pay driver still...
Lease plan and Telefonica at Minardi

Hmmm true.

And Alonso was replaced by Webber, a worse driver with no sponsors, and later Wilson, also a worse driver with no sponsors, talk about a bad deal for Stoddart!

Edited by V8 Fireworks, 29 December 2012 - 05:28.

[fisssssi]

Bruno will be in sat in the Force India next year, don't worry.

That's what I'm worried about

[Disgrace]

That's what I'm worried about

[Buttoneer]

In RC, the driver threads started with the Lewis Hamilton thread which was a discussion about a new up-and-coming driver who ought to make it into F1. Over a period of years the title of the thread was taken as a banner to discuss any and all aspects in which Lewis was involved, including lots of non-motorsport discussion, and it then spread to all other drivers who now have their own topic.

Threads like these have been looked upon by some as a 'fan appreciation' thread where dissenting opinions should not be given voice and by others as places to go to troll. It is this environment where the labels 'fanboy' and 'hater' or 'anti' have become ingrained and then employed more widely across the forum. During a race, progress is followed here instead of in the race thread or live forum; when a site releases a poll each driver thread is used to discuss that drivers position within it; when there is an incident, the thread for each driver involved becomes part of the extended battleground. In reality, the threads have become micro-communities where fans of particular drivers tend to discuss every aspect of F1 with other posters they feel comfortable with. Potentially good topics of discussion often go unnoticed by the more general membership who may have had something positive to contribute, because it was not clear the discussion was taking place.

We have decided that the threads are a barrier to the free flow of discussion and ideas and have taken the decision to ban driver threads as part of the introduction to our new rules, which can be found here (link).

As always, we are happy to listen to your views and opinions on how the forum is moderated but please, by PM only.