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[Dick_Dastardly]

He should have waited until after Brazil because anything could still happen and the championship isn't yet in the bag:

http://www.marca.com...lo/1177134.html

Hamilton: Alonso was a Two-Time World Champion Beaten by a Rookie

-"If one day a new driver arrives and makes my life impossible, I'm not going to hate him for it", he declared

-he suggested that people have always been jealous of him for being a winner and being in Mclaren.

In the end, Hamilton could not contain himself and has responded to Fernando Alonso. The spanish driver was tough last Sunday in China and maintained the opinion that he already gave the previous week in Japan: he preferred that Massa win the title and if he could help him he would.

Hamilton silenced everybody last weekend and played deaf but in the heat of the victory, the champagne and the celebration of the team, he pulled out his black belt (karate) that he has inside. " When somebody has been winning, another driver arrives and assumes control of the situation, of course one can't be too happy", he revealed according to Autosport in the paddock. Presumably these declarations were to the english press because they did not go further.

"I can't do anything about this, except continue to remain positive" continued Lewis. "He was a double world champion (Alonso) who arrived at a team and was beaten by a rookie. I'm not here to get involved in mind games or to annoy anybody. I'm here to race, to be competitive and push everybody to the limit, whether that is with people in my own team or other drivers. That is what racing driving is about."

He wants to have fun....and win

Hamilton reflected upon the role that Fernando played last year and placed himself in his shoes. "If somebody new arrives to challenge me and gave me the most difficult time of my life, I'm not going to hate him for it but simply try to do even better to get back in front. I'm not in this sport to make friends, I'm here to be successful, to do the best I can and to be competitive, to win the world championship and to enjoy my Formula 1 career along the way."

The world championship leader, who only has to finish 5th in 15 days time in Brazil, defended his aggresive style of driving adopting the role of victim: " I'm here, as strong as always, I already raised my hands in Fuji and admitted my mistake. I apologized to my team and we look forwards together. The most important is to be focused on my job because to have options once again to win the world championship in only my second year is fantastic."

It happens if you're so good

Hamilton insists that everything that has happened is because he is a winner that is in the best team and people focus on everything that he does since he was linked to Mclaren as a child. Flavio Briatore, who accused him of thinking he was a martian or Muhammed Ali without winning a title and of not learning nothing from what happened in 2007, apologized later for his words. He wasn't the only one who critized him, almost all of the drivers have in public or in private talked about his behaviour.

"You've got to ask yourself why this is all happening", afirmed Lewis. "It's because I'm competitive, a winner. Many people have been in Formula 1 much more time than I have, I've been here a short time in a great team. All of my career I've been in this situation, people want to associate themselves with Mclaren-Mercedes, but I was the only one in this situation, it's all part of the game", he confessed.

Hamilton, it appears, didn't hear Fernando acknowledge on Sunday at the Shangai circuit that he deserved the title and finally added: "If I was at the back of the grid, nobody would be talking about me or my driving. That's how it is. It's like a Micheal Schumacher or Damon Hill; when you're a winner, when you're doing well, it's part of the game" he concluded.

[otoelpiloto]

watch out lewis

http://uk.youtube.co...h?v=J-zjsw-XRAI

[Peter Perfect]

Marca eh?

Quality journalism...

I wouldn't be surprised if he'd been mis-translated ;)

[wewantourdarbyback]

Surprised Marca haven't announced that Christiano Ronaldo will be racing for Ferrari next year while Kimi Raikkonen moves to Real Madrid yet

[potmotr]

Weren't those quotes from Sunday?

[otoelpiloto]

Originally posted by wewantourdarbyback
Surprised Marca haven't announced that Christiano Ronaldo will be racing for Ferrari next year while Kimi Raikkonen moves to Real Madrid yet

[Ricardo F1]

There's some very dodgy timeline issues with that piece.

[airwise]

Originally posted by Ricardo F1
There's some very dodgy timeline issues with that piece.

Now there's a surprise. Marca must be gutted that Fred claims he doesn't have an issue with Hamilton and that he would be a worthy WDC. How the hell are they going to sell that to the baying public?

[Orin]

Originally posted by wewantourdarbyback
Surprised Marca haven't announced that Christiano Ronaldo will be racing for Ferrari next year while Kimi Raikkonen moves to Real Madrid yet

Marca are pathetic, good knows how true the quotes are but what about all the little snipes made by the writer: "Hamilton could not contain himself and has responded to Fernando Alonso", "adopting the role of victim", "Hamilton, it appears, didn't hear Fernando".

[gincarnated]

Presumably these declarations were to the english press because they did not go further.

So they don't even know the original source? What a pos paper.

[qvn]

Lewis is strong, competitive driver. That is what I like about him.

He is right. Fernando should have stayed and raised the game to beat him, just to show who is the boss instead of running away. This way he could show he is the best and might be 3 time WDC after this year. Now there is always a doubt whether he is better than Lewis.

Lewis has all right to be proud of what he has done because he as a rookie matched (beat if don't count last race) a two time WDC in first year and leading WDC in his second year.

[Jones Foyer]

"He was a double world champion (Alonso) who arrived at a team and was beaten by a rookie."

He did. It's a fact.

Alonso should harbor no ill will to Hamilton for out driving him, he actually should respect him.

If Hamilton beat Alonso because team favoritism put Hamilton in the winning position more often than Alonso, again, Alonso should harbor no ill will towards Hamilton, instead there should be a hatred of Ron Dennis.

I can't figure out why people tend to have such hatred of Hamilton, the only thing I can assume is jealousy or racism because he's no more arrogant than any other driver in the field and is certainly deserving of his position in the Driver's Championship.

[Jamelon]

Alonso vs Hamilton wasn't a fair battle. The title was stolen from the Spaniard in Hungary. That's a fact. His car in the last three races was rubbish. Hamilton and McL know very well that under normal circumstances (fair battle, no nr1 crap talk) Alonso would have won the title easily. They pushed for Hamilton at any cost and he blew it. That hurts.

Lewis, just shut up and don't blow it again. I have bad news for you: it's the last chance you'll ever have to win a F1 championship.

[bond]

This news was out before the GP....

http://en.f1-live.co...019074254.shtml

[El_Capitán]

Lewis Hamilton making good friends as usual.

Why would he say these things when he hasn't even won the title. He's painting himself into a corner...

[MichaelPM]

Originally posted by El_Capitán
Lewis Hamilton making good friends as usual.

Why would he say these things when he hasn't even won the title. He's painting himself into a corner...

again and again and again
He is worse then DC with "this will be my year"

[Buttoneer]

Originally posted by Jamelon
Alonso vs Hamilton wasn't a fair battle. The title was stolen from the Spaniard in Hungary. That's a fact.

Alonso gave the title away in Hungary. Now that's the fact.

Alonso could have won it, and he deserved to, actually, but please don't make out that he was the victim. He should have sucked up Hamilton's double cross and dealt with it afterwards.

[bankoq]

Originally posted by Dick_Dastardly

"You've got to ask yourself why this is all happening", afirmed Lewis. "It's because I'm competitive, a winner. Many people have been in Formula 1 much more time than I have, I've been here a short time in a great team. All of my career I've been in this situation, people want to associate themselves with Mclaren-Mercedes, but I was the only one in this situation, it's all part of the game", he confessed.

At least Lewis understands he always had the best equipment in his whole career before F1 and in F1.

Originally posted by Dick_Dastardly
Hamilton, it appears, didn't hear Fernando acknowledge on Sunday at the Shangai circuit that he deserved the title and finally added: "If I was at the back of the grid, nobody would be talking about me or my driving. That's how it is. It's like a Micheal Schumacher or Damon Hill; when you're a winner, when you're doing well, it's part of the game" he concluded.

Well said Lewis. More this kind of stuff and maybe I will begin to like you a bit

[Orin]

Originally posted by bankoq


At least Lewis understands he always had the best equipment in his whole career before F1 and in F1.



Well said Lewis. More this kind of stuff and maybe I will begin to like you a bit

Certainly better than "I personally gave McLaren 6/10ths, I want #1 status!!!"

[OLEV]

Originally posted by Jones Foyer
"He was a double world champion (Alonso) who arrived at a team and was beaten by a rookie."

He did. It's a fact.

Alonso should harbor no ill will to Hamilton for out driving him, he actually should respect him.

If Hamilton beat Alonso because team favoritism put Hamilton in the winning position more often than Alonso, again, Alonso should harbor no ill will towards Hamilton, instead there should be a hatred of Ron Dennis.

I can't figure out why people tend to have such hatred of Hamilton, the only thing I can assume is jealousy or racism because he's no more arrogant than any other driver in the field and is certainly deserving of his position in the Driver's Championship.

Most people agree that Hamilton is a very good driver in a very good team. I don't believe Alonso harbours ill will because Hamilton out-drove him. I believe it's because Hamilton is a 22(?) year-old with a 14 year-old's brain and sense of the appropriate. He says things that he's been told to say ("humility", "grace", etc) or that he's maybe read about, without -obviously - feeling or meaning them.
Ie. he's a dick-head.
I believe he will become one of the all-time greats. I really am impressed by his driving. (I am a die-hard Schumacher fan...) I don't hate him, but he certainly irritates me. It's not his race, it's not his youth, it's not that he's "come from nowhere" (sic), it's just that he's a dick-head - for now. I can't wait for him to grow up!
That's just my opinion...

[gincarnated]

I do love when I see people pull out the "he's always have the best equipment" nonsense as if it somehow detracts from his acomplishments. He's got that equipment because he's an incredible talent.

On Alonso having the title stolen from him. I've said it before and i'll say it again, he shouldn't have even been driving that car after the spygate debacle. McLaren obviously didn't want to pay out his contract but it's strange that they didn't have some clause in there that would have allowed them to fire him for blackmailing the team. Why on earth would they back him after what he did? Only an idiot would believe he got equal treatment after spygate, and only an idiot would believe he deserved it.

I can't understand why people hate Lewis either. It's like they wait on his every word looking for something to attack him over. He's arrogant and believes hes the best but that isn't to his detriment. In fact it's quite obviously the opposite. Cristiano Ronaldo, Terrell Owens, Senna, etc all have/had the same mindset and it's part of the reason behind their greatness, but it does seem to upset a lot of people. I personally love these guys because they're great characters and bring a lot of fun and interest to their respective sports.

[MichaelPM]

Originally posted by OLEV


Most people agree that Hamilton is a very good driver in a very good team. I don't believe Alonso harbours ill will because Hamilton out-drove him. I believe it's because Hamilton is a 22(?) year-old with a 14 year-old's brain and sense of the appropriate. He says things that he's been told to say ("humility", "grace", etc) or that he's maybe read about, without -obviously - feeling or meaning them.
Ie. he's a dick-head.
I believe he will become one of the all-time greats. I really am impressed by his driving. (I am a die-hard Schumacher fan...) I don't hate him, but he certainly irritates me. It's not his race, it's not his youth, it's not that he's "come from nowhere" (sic), it's just that he's a dick-head - for now. I can't wait for him to grow up!
That's just my opinion...

Good post.

[as65p]

Originally posted by Buttoneer
Alonso gave the title away in Hungary. Now that's the fact.

Alonso could have won it, and he deserved to, actually, but please don't make out that he was the victim. He should have sucked up Hamilton's double cross and dealt with it afterwards.

Sad but true.

That said, it could have been worse. If it was me, I would have tried to "deal with it" immediately, on track during the fuel burn phase.

Which could have resulted in an even more vicious fall-out. So we should probably all be grateful that I'm never going to be in such a position.;)

[Raelene]

I normally don't like the way Hamilton speaks and how he continually has to tell us how good he is, ( I appreciate his driving abilities), but there was nothing wrong with these quotes.

[Nadsat]

Originally posted by Buttoneer
Alonso gave the title away in Hungary. Now that's the fact.

Alonso could have won it, and he deserved to, actually, but please don't make out that he was the victim. He should have sucked up Hamilton's double cross and dealt with it afterwards.

Again and again with it. One question. Does the steering wheel have a watch?

[peroa]

Originally posted by Nadsat



Again and again with it. One question. Does the steering wheel have a watch?

No, but Sancho Pança had one ...



;)

[Jacquesback]

Originally posted by OLEV
Ie. he's a dick-head.
I believe he will become one of the all-time greats. I really am impressed by his driving. (I am a die-hard Schumacher fan...) I don't hate him, but he certainly irritates me. It's not his race, it's not his youth, it's not that he's "come from nowhere" (sic), it's just that he's a dick-head

Now you know how I felt about Schumacher.

[wewantourdarbyback]

Originally posted by Jamelon


Lewis, just shut up and don't blow it again. I have bad news for you: it's the last chance you'll ever have to win a F1 championship.

can I have a look at that crystal ball of yours?

[El_Capitán]

Originally posted by peroa


No, but Sancho Pança had one ...



;)

It's Sancho PanZa you... I guess you've never heard of El Quijote (never mind reading it)?

[El_Capitán]

All of this BS from Lewis and he still hasn't won a WDC. This is A FACT. Not only that, God forbid something happen to him in Brazil, because his ego is giving his detractors all the reasons in the world to hate him even more.

Someone should totally isolate Hamilton from the media and have him concentrate ONLY on Interlagos, not on loaded questions.

Shut up and drive Lewis!!!!!

[El_Capitán]

Originally posted by Jones Foyer
"He was a double world champion (Alonso) who arrived at a team and was beaten by a rookie."

He did. It's a fact.

Alonso should harbor no ill will to Hamilton for out driving him, he actually should respect him.

If Hamilton beat Alonso because team favoritism put Hamilton in the winning position more often than Alonso, again, Alonso should harbor no ill will towards Hamilton, instead there should be a hatred of Ron Dennis.

I can't figure out why people tend to have such hatred of Hamilton, the only thing I can assume is jealousy or racism because he's no more arrogant than any other driver in the field and is certainly deserving of his position in the Driver's Championship.

As far as I know Alonso does not harbor ill feelings towards Lewis. He said so on Spanish TV and to Windsor just last week. His "beef" is with "some people within McC" that made his life misserable.

But then again that'd go against the Hamiltonistas 4th premise: Alonso is an a-hole. So I understand why that'd be hard to swallow.

[Nitropower]

I don't believe he said that but if he did I wish his engine breaks down in Brazil. It's disgusting to read the I am so so good speech.

[wrighty]

Originally posted by El_Capitán

.....that'd go against the Hamiltonistas 4th premise: Alonso is an a-hole.

erm what are the other 3?

[SevenTwoSeven]

If its true (which i guess it may not be) well said Hamilton

[wewantourdarbyback]

Originally posted by El_Capitán


As far as I know Alonso does not harbor ill feelings towards Lewis. He said so on Spanish TV and to Windsor just last week. His "beef" is with "some people within McC" that made his life misserable.

But then again that'd go against the Hamiltonistas 4th premise: Alonso is an a-hole. So I understand why that'd be hard to swallow.

Alonso's fanboys can be just as bad

[prxty]

Originally posted by SevenTwoSeven
If its true (which i guess it may not be) well said Hamilton

The egomaniac opens his mouth and the idiots come here to celebrate it.
How low is the intelligence level in London?

[Crestie]

Fernando was the first person to congratulate Lewis on Sunday, and he had to go out of his way to do it, but I guess that wouldn't fit the "Evil Spaniard" premise either.

[fed up]

Originally posted by OLEV


Most people agree that Hamilton is a very good driver in a very good team. I don't believe Alonso harbours ill will because Hamilton out-drove him. I believe it's because Hamilton is a 22(?) year-old with a 14 year-old's brain and sense of the appropriate. He says things that he's been told to say ("humility", "grace", etc) or that he's maybe read about, without -obviously - feeling or meaning them.
Ie. he's a dick-head.
I believe he will become one of the all-time greats. I really am impressed by his driving. (I am a die-hard Schumacher fan...) I don't hate him, but he certainly irritates me. It's not his race, it's not his youth, it's not that he's "come from nowhere" (sic), it's just that he's a dick-head - for now. I can't wait for him to grow up!
That's just my opinion...

I believe that if one looks for bad in people they will see bad, conversley if you look for good in a person you will see good. You have already said in this post that he is a very good driver and you believe he will become one of the all-time greats. As an F1 fan surely this should be sufficient to merit your support. IMHO you can never judge a person unless that person does something genuinely bad or you have met them and they gave you good reason.

Too many so called fans allow their prejudices to get in the way of their enjoyment of the sport. I, for example, am not overly keen on Alonso's temperament and found his behaviour in 2007 and part of 2008 childish and strange, but I still rate him very highly as a driver..that is enough for me as I don't know what motivates his behaviour and, frankly, it's none of my business.

Just my view.

[jcbc3]

And Hamilton congratulated Alonso in Singapore. No, it wasn't the warmest of embraces or hugs, but he did it when he didn't 'have to'. So all in all, I guess this animosity is more imaginary than real.

[Slowinfastout]

Originally posted by Crestie
Fernando was the first person to congratulate Lewis on Sunday, and he had to go out of his way to do it, but I guess that wouldn't fit the "Evil Spaniard" premise either.

Fernando has much more class than his fans, thats for sure.

[El_Capitán]

Originally posted by wrighty



erm what are the other 3?

Premise # 1: HAMILTON NEVER LOSES.

Premise # 2: IF HAMILTON DOES NOT WIN A PARTICULAR GP IT's BECAUSE OF AN FIA CONSPIRACY.

Premise # 3: IF HAMILTON DOES NOT WIN A PARTICULAR GP AND THERE IS NO FIA SANCTION THEN ONE OF THE REMAINING DRIVERS MUST'VE DONE SOMETHING (INTENTIONALLY) TO HIS CAR.

[GrndLkNatv]

Originally posted by Jones Foyer
"He was a double world champion (Alonso) who arrived at a team and was beaten by a rookie."

He did. It's a fact.

Alonso should harbor no ill will to Hamilton for out driving him, he actually should respect him.

If Hamilton beat Alonso because team favoritism put Hamilton in the winning position more often than Alonso, again, Alonso should harbor no ill will towards Hamilton, instead there should be a hatred of Ron Dennis.

I can't figure out why people tend to have such hatred of Hamilton, the only thing I can assume is jealousy or racism because he's no more arrogant than any other driver in the field and is certainly deserving of his position in the Driver's Championship.

But not in an equal car... Even Marco Andretti has stated that his father was sabotaged at McLaren in order to keep the pecking order correct and I am quite sure with the relationship between Ron McDennis and Lewis McLaren Hamilton this is most likely true. When the cars were even, Hamilton was getting his butt kicked in the dirt. BTW, when Massa's Ferrari is running the same as Lewis Hamilton's McLaren, we have seen Massa kick Hamilton's butt and Kimi has run off and left him as well when in equal cars... In fact, without a couple of engine blow ups this year, the race for the championship would be over and it wouldn't belong to McLaren.

[airwise]

Originally posted by prxty

The egomaniac opens his mouth and the idiots come here to celebrate it.
How low is the intelligence level in London?

Most of us don't believe a word Marca publish so I guess it's somewhat higher than where ever you're from lad.

[Ricardo F1]

Originally posted by GrndLkNatv



But not in an equal car... Even Marco Andretti has stated that his father was sabotaged at McLaren in order to keep the pecking order correct and I am quite sure with the relationship between Ron McDennis and Lewis McLaren Hamilton this is most likely true. When the cars were even, Hamilton was getting his butt kicked in the dirt.

Michael wouldn't move to England. His mistake, he paid the price. Listen son, it wasn't that I was **** and totally uncommitted . ..

[undersquare]

Originally posted by GrndLkNatv

BTW, when Massa's Ferrari is running the same as Lewis Hamilton's McLaren, we have seen Massa kick Hamilton's butt and Kimi has run off and left him as well when in equal cars

So you've known when the cars were equal ? Is this when the voices in your head told you that?

[Raelene]

Originally posted by GrndLkNatv



But not in an equal car... ........

[wrighty]

Originally posted by El_Capitán


Premise # 1: HAMILTON NEVER LOSES.

Premise # 2: IF HAMILTON DOES NOT WIN A PARTICULAR GP IT's BECAUSE OF AN FIA CONSPIRACY.

Premise # 3: IF HAMILTON DOES NOT WIN A PARTICULAR GP AND THERE IS NO FIA SANCTION THEN ONE OF THE REMAINING DRIVERS MUST'VE DONE SOMETHING (INTENTIONALLY) TO HIS CAR.

thanks......

[Buttoneer]

Originally posted by Nadsat



Again and again with it. One question. Does the steering wheel have a watch?

No, but the car does have a lollipop man.

[jesee]

Marca= trash If i had the power to shut down some newspapers for un-necessarily wasting wood, this would be the top of my list. Only an idiot can believe what is written there, only a fool would willingly buy this garbage let alone quote it.

[GrndLkNatv]

Originally posted by undersquare


So you've known when the cars were equal ? Is this when the voices in your head told you that?

Is your user id, undersquare, some kind of moniker for psychobable? That's all you talk about... You only talk about everyones mental problems, what is wrong with them and voices in people's heads... What's up with that? Have we heard you on C2C radio at night?

BTW, who said he never get's passed on the outside of a corner, just before Felipe went by like a lightning bolt? On that day, McLaren had the faster car, that's why Lewis was P1, but Felipe, being the better driver, in a equal or lesser car, won the race and passed the mouth on the first corner. So those voices you claim that I have must be right, Massa had a equal or lesser car, and beat Lewis because he is a better driver...

Lewis wants to be Mohamed Ali, but the poor boy just doesn't have it, neither the wits and definately not the strength to back up his big mouth. When he challenged Jens Button to a man challenge and had to back out, that pretty much proved him to be the biggest whimp on the planet.

I do like Hamilton for one thing in F1, entertainment! Who else could rear-end another F1 car at the end of the pit lane and a red light? Just how FS do you have to be to do that?