433 replies to this topic

[Ted Walker]

have I" missed the plot here" Whats going on ?????????????????????? Whos gone and why. I think we need an explanation from our moderators !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[alansart]

Fines has been quiet as well.

[Tim Murray]

Members fall by the wayside all the time, but I really miss Buford.

Hear hear. If only Buford and fines could have agreed to disagree, we could still have them both contributing here, and perhaps Don as well. Everyone has lost as a result of this unfortunate dispute, especially those of us who greatly enjoyed hearing from these three eminent TNFers.

[Alan Cox]

I see that Buford and fines are still listed as members here, and Don last posted yesterday on the Private Messaging thread

[Giraffe]

I see that Buford and fines are still listed as members here, and Don last posted yesterday on the Private Messaging thread

Yes, to me......see post #398.

[Tim Murray]

Tony, I believe Alan is referring to this post.

[Giraffe]

Tony, I believe Alan is referring to this post.

Thankyou Tim, I completely missed that.

[kayemod]

Have to be a bit careful here, don't want to stir anything up uneccessarily, and most of my information has come from just one of those involved, but as I understand things, all those who got involved in that recent argy-bargy were put on 'moderator hold', i.e. all their posts had to be approved by a moderator before appearing, and none of the names I can recall from the incident have posted since. Buford told me he had already decided to leave, a sad loss, especially as I saw him as the least culpable party in all this unpleasantness. The Colonel seems to have had some kind of unrelated disagreement with at least one mod, so it looks as if he's gone as well. We're mostly very well behaved on TNF, but on the thread that was where most of the nasty stuff was posted, I sometimes couldn't believe what I was reading. I really hope Buford returns, though he insists that he won't. Some of the others I'll see in a rather different light if they return after what I assume is some kind of temporary suspension. This should really be on another thread, but if our PMs can be monitored, so what, what do we have to hide or be afraid of? I was advised many years ago to regard anything sent over the internet or by e-mail as about as secure as a mailed postcard, which can be read quite easily by anyone whose hands it passes through. That's the way it is and has always been, and maybe we should all remember that.

[Allen Brown]

Have to be a bit careful here, don't want to stir anything up uneccessarily...

Then don't. As you say Rob, most of your information has come from just one of those involved. Other people who were involved would have other points of view but I see absolutely no value whatsoever in airing those views yet again.

[Mark 13]

Is there any news on the 2010 Classic.
Personally i hope it concentrates on the racing and if they do add the concerts, then the acts have broad rock appeal, without being superstars.
On the circuit I will be happy if we get the usual WSCM race on the saturday evening and ecstatic if we get some Group 7 cars and an appearance from Bernard's Mk2 BRM V16 (dream on eh!)

[john ruston]

Understand the Pre War Sports Car race is off programme for 2010

[Ken Prichard Jones]

Understand the Pre War Sports Car race is off programme for 2010

The Silverstone Classic 2010 was soft launched at the Classic Show on 13th November. Most of the grids have been agreed and signed up. We will not disclose the race programme until all grids have confirmed attendance. Tickets are on sale on the web site and are selling. Concerts will feature in the schedule. The whole programme is bigger and better than last year.

[john ruston]

It depends who is making the judgement.Can't be better,no Pre War,just different.
It deserves success but should have grids representing all decades 20's through to end of 80's.

90's are to late to be included.

[Paul Mc]

I see that the prices have gone up quite significantly from last year if you add in the booking fee, and a charge is now being made for children.

We attended this in 2008 and again last summer (2008 being by far the better event in my opinion) but I doubt we will be doing so again in 2010.

Oulton Park Gold Cup instead I think!

[Ken Prichard Jones]

I see that the prices have gone up quite significantly from last year if you add in the booking fee, and a charge is now being made for children.

We attended this in 2008 and again last summer (2008 being by far the better event in my opinion) but I doubt we will be doing so again in 2010.

Oulton Park Gold Cup instead I think!

If you book now, the cost is reduced significantly over the on-the-day cost.

[Stephen W]

If you book now, the cost is reduced significantly over the on-the-day cost.

Likewise if you book whilst at Race Retro 2010.

[Paul Mc]

If you book now, the cost is reduced significantly over the on-the-day cost.

We have booked in advance for the last two years so this increase in the guise of a booking fee does make a difference to what we are expected to pay, especially for a party of four adults and a child. Works out at an extra £30 I think. I can't remember paying a booking fee in previous years and the charge for 6-16 year olds is also new, for the under 12's anyway. They have been free in previous years.

I was disappointed with 2009 compared to 2008 and the increase in charges is the tipping point in the decision about whether or not to book for 2010.

It's a shame because I like Silverstone, even though it's a long way for us to travel, and we really enjoyed the 2008 event.

By the way I do applaud the fact that you come on a forum like this to deal with comments about the event, I wish other event organisers would do the same.

[john aston]

I must be a simpleton as I care not a jot for whoever is throwing a hissy fit of righteous indignation - allegedly- but I did have an absolutely wonderful time at SC09 .I am not a huge fan of the circuit- I like my racers to be about 30 yards closer- but I enjoyed the event as much as the Goodwoods I have attended.Possibly because the machinery is more my era and maybe because the spectators I saw all seemed to be real enthusiasts, who seemed to be in a minority at Goodwood as the majority seemed to be more focussed on the pantomime aspect.It is still an amazing event but SC10 for me please.Oh , and the fact that there were a few fake snakes doesn't bother me unduly, they are no more offensive than some of all the awful old tat that has classic status through age rather than merit.I bow to no-one in my love of an original Elite , 330GTC or DS but Vivas and H120 Rapiers have an appeal which is..ermm..finite. But the sound of a BRM V12 being fired up in the pit garage right next to me and the sight of the Breadvan at full chat were worth the admission price for me.

[Stephen W]

We have booked in advance for the last two years so this increase in the guise of a booking fee does make a difference to what we are expected to pay, especially for a party of four adults and a child. Works out at an extra £30 I think.

As I said earlier if you book at Race Retro 2010 you get the cheaper "in advance price", I also suspect you might avoid the booking fee.

[Mark 13]

c£75 for 3 days is still a lot of money and a family of 4 (2+2) will have little change from £200 if they buy a programme.

However i will probably be there at least for the Saturday. it will be interesting to see which bands/Acts are booked. Also keen to see the races for 2010.

[Ken Prichard Jones]

c£75 for 3 days is still a lot of money and a family of 4 (2+2) will have little change from £200 if they buy a programme.

However i will probably be there at least for the Saturday. it will be interesting to see which bands/Acts are booked. Also keen to see the races for 2010.

If you are a member of a car club which will be present at the SC10, you will be entitled to a BOGOF deal through the code supplied to your club. The special deals for car clubs run until 31st March 2010. The combination of deals should mean that your family of 4 will be around £100.00 for the three days rather than £200.00 even if they buy a programme. Radios will be extra as last year.

[john aston]

£75 a lot for 3 DAYS ? Having this year paid £50 to seee Ry Cooder,£55 to see Bill Bailey and £Idare not tell you how much for an evening at ROH Covent Garden I think it's more than reasonable.And I'm a bloody Yorkshireman...

[garyfrogeye]

The BOGOF deal seems to bring it into the realms of good value. I paid £60 per head to see the Royal Philamonic at the Roayal Albert Hall last night. Possibly the venue with the worst accoustics in the world.

[Ken Prichard Jones]

The BOGOF deal seems to bring it into the realms of good value. I paid £60 per head to see the Royal Philamonic at the Roayal Albert Hall last night. Possibly the venue with the worst accoustics in the world.

The price will include the concerts on both Friday and Saturday and we are working on some music on Sunday this year as well.

[Mark 13]

£75 a lot for 3 DAYS ? Having this year paid £50 to seee Ry Cooder,£55 to see Bill Bailey and £Idare not tell you how much for an evening at ROH Covent Garden I think it's more than reasonable.And I'm a bloody Yorkshireman...

Me too John, but the reality is that £200 is a lot of dosh in these times. I agree that the BOGOF deal is good and will be speaking to a number of my mates about it. The music issue is very personal. i have been to 2 concerts in the last 2 weeks and paid £19 and £27 to see 2 of the greatest 80's british metal bands. Bill Bailey - £55? that stretches the imagination a little. If the groupds are not to your taste then it means the concert element is irrelevant.

Still....how about some Group 7 (Masters Interseries Retro or Orwell Supersports) and some symphonic V16.

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[Ted Walker]

Ken. Whats happening about the "trade stands"???????

[Ken Prichard Jones]

Ken. Whats happening about the "trade stands"???????

We also launched the trade stands at the Classic Show. We are open for bookings and have already taken quite a few. There is a discount for early booking. We aim to increase the trade element significantly this year. We hope to introduce a new section for local food producers who will sell their products to visitors to enable them to compile their own picnics on site.

[Gary C]

hi Ken, did you get my message from yesterday?

[Mark 13]

We also launched the trade stands at the Classic Show. We are open for bookings and have already taken quite a few. There is a discount for early booking. We aim to increase the trade element significantly this year. We hope to introduce a new section for local food producers who will sell their products to visitors to enable them to compile their own picnics on site.

Ken,
Last year the trade stands started in a nice compact set of rows but then degenerated into a car boot sale type arrangement beyond this. The FOS is very well organised in this regard and i think it is essential that all the trade stands (memorabilia, models, prints etc are kept together). The cost of attending for the traders is very high and I strongly feel they should be given a platform to sell their goods and treated with dignity. Early booking discounts are a good idea as long as you don't 'broker/job' out any spare capacity at the eleventh hour at a bigger discount.
The reason I mention this, is that browsing and buying from the traders enriches the whole festival experience for many people and is a great way of filling in time between the races you prefer to watch.
Mark.

[simon drabble]

The only comment I would make on the trade stands is that you should group them so the "car boot sale" end of the market is all in one area (and btw there is nothing wrong with this if it has Beaulieu type bargains) and the art is one section etc.. that way those with limited time can get to what they want quickly. Also put Bamford's organic food store nearer the pits - they were the only decent food in the whole circuit!

[wewantourdarbyback]

Anyone who was following the unpleasantness of a few weeks ago will have noticed that Buford wasn't the only casualty back then. According to Buford, he went voluntarily, but I was pleased to see that TNF takes a firm line on shouting matches, 'pissing contests' as B would have said, of that kind.

Members fall by the wayside all the time, but I really miss Buford.

Ah, was wondering why the Indy Car thread had stayed so civil for the last few months.


(sorry to drag an old post up but I missed it)

Edited by wewantourdarbyback, 24 November 2009 - 15:41.

[Ted Walker]

Ken.Would it not be a good idea to circulate every trader that has supported the event first,prior to going public with the trade stand details ???????

[Mark 13]

Any news about race content for this years event. I noticed that the Group C series is going to brands and not Silverstone. Does this mean that the links with the Masters Series has now become a stranglehold?

It would be great to have an Interseries revival race, if there is no hope of the Orwell Supersports making an appearance, as well as the WSCM evening race.