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#1 TristanDaCunha

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 00:45

Has there been any indication whether Nick Fry is involved with Brawn GP? I can't possibly see why they'd want or need him but he seems to have been involved prior to the sale.

Also livery, the website has yellow and black which I don;t think we've seen since Minardi and Renault used those colours years ago, but I wonder whether they ought to go for something striking just for exposure. Rentokil dayglo orange would be something, though I suppose Ferrari already has that. Flourescent yellow, eggshell blue, anything but grey.

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#2 tkulla

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 01:13

Black and yellow, Mike Gasgoyne? Bring back the Buzzin Hornets, 1999 style!

#3 Talisker

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 01:28

Who says the team colours have to match how their car is painted, and therefore who the main sponsor is? For example, Renault F1's logo is mainly blue - I can't see any of that on their car.

#4 Chubby_Deuce

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 01:35

Black with a hint of yellow would be nice. In fact don't paint the black parts, bare carbon fibre please.

#5 mach4

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 01:44

Any idea why Brawn is upset? :confused:

F1's Honda reaches agreement to sell the team to Cross Brawn

#6 mclarensmps

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 01:47

hahahaha

#7 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 01:50

http://www.grandprix.../mole21122.html

Fairly well predicted IMO

#8 BiH

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 01:51

Good for F1 two more cars on grid :up:

I predict Honda WCC and WDC.

On serious note I wonder if they can run their own KERS that they were testing or do they have to run the KERS from Mercedes or are they even going to use KERS at all?

#9 jondon

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 02:46

It is early days yet, but I wish them all very well for the coming season...
For all members of the team it has not been an easy winter and I truly hope their collective suffering will be rewarded with good racing this coming season!

#10 mach4

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 03:52

I wonder if there's any significance to the italicized "AWN" in the logo:

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If it was Brawn Racing then the "BR" like that would have neatly worked as the acronym for the full name.

#11 BiH

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 04:38

would be nice if it had pepsi sponsor

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#12 Crazy Canuck

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 04:40

Here ya go:

http://www.brawngp.com/

More soon hopefully!

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#13 wtoyzz

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 04:48

:drunk: :drunk:

#14 Timstr11

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 06:04

Great news to wake up to.

What's interesting to note is that all shares in Honda GP Ltd have been transferred to Ross Brawn solely.
No equity for other members.

http://world.honda.c...Racing-F1-Team/

#15 senna da silva

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 06:26

It's good news that Brawn GP will be on the grid. I look forward to seeing the car that the team worked on for all of 2008 and hope it can be more than just a backmarker.

:up:

#16 rad787

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 06:28

I wonder how much Ross Brawn paid for it. And if he still has money left in his bank account :|

#17 Timstr11

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 06:31

Originally posted by rad787
I wonder how much Ross Brawn paid for it. And if he still has money left in his bank account :|

The team was sold for a symbolic figure. The buyer just had to provide some assurance they could take the team further.
Honda is still providing some funding this year. But they will be on their own as of 2010.

#18 Scaramanga

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 06:37

Originally posted by rad787
I wonder how much Ross Brawn paid for it. And if he still has money left in his bank account :|


I'm sure Brawn has a group of investors. He may not even be the majority shareholder, depends on many factors. But obviously running the team in Brackley isn't cheap.

One way or the other, deciding to move to Honda turned out to be a great career move. He's ended up with his own team, perhaps a very fine one at that (we'll see).

#19 ForeverF1

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 06:51

Fantastic news. I wish them all the success and look forward to seeing their car. :clap:

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#20 Gareth

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 06:57

Originally posted by Timstr11
Great news to wake up to.

What's interesting to note is that all shares in Honda GP Ltd have been transferred to Ross Brawn solely.
No equity for other members.

http://world.honda.c...Racing-F1-Team/

Definitely the most interesting part of the announcement so far. What odds that Fry is one of the first redundancies? I can't imagine his salary is cheap, and when compared with his contribution ... Unless he's bringing some funding to the table (and I doubt it), I suspect he'll be gone.

#21 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 07:00

I doubt it, I don't think he'd have been on the FOTA panel yesterday if that was the case.

#22 Odvan

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 07:08

Zer gut! Nice to see 2 more cars on the greed.

#23 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 07:13

Well, it's the same two. The grid hasn't grown.

#24 Dooly Tilly

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 07:14

I've never been a Ross Brawn fan since his days at Ferrari, but I'm glad the ex-Honda team have been saved. Shame they kept two crap drivers though. :p

#25 lukywill

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 07:19

fantastic news at last. finally people will write his name properly.


http://www.brawngp.com/ :clap:

google still thinks i didn't mean that: 'Did you mean: brown gp'

#26 Dooly Tilly

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 07:22

Originally posted by BiH
would be nice if it had pepsi sponsor

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WTF? When did Pepsi change their awesome previous design to that crap? :eek:

#27 dutra

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 07:32

Originally posted by Dooly Tilly

WTF? When did Pepsi change their awesome previous design to that crap? :eek:


And this new logo costed over 1 billion USD...

#28 Gareth

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 07:34

Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
I doubt it, I don't think he'd have been on the FOTA panel yesterday if that was the case.

An article in the Guardian today (Digger column) describes his appearence at FOTA as being so short as to be a remarkable disappearing act, adding to the impression he's been marginalised and adding to speculation he'll lose his position.

#29 bogi

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 07:45

BrawnGP :up:

More private teams, maybe SC Racing (Stepney&Coughlan) :stoned:

#30 Slowinfastout

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 07:51

Originally posted by Gareth

An article in the Guardian today (Digger column) describes his appearence at FOTA as being so short as to be a remarkable disappearing act, adding to the impression he's been marginalised and adding to speculation he'll lose his position.


Fry isn't mentionned anywhere in the latest and final takeover news... that pretty much says it all..

#31 Nimrod

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 07:52

Isn't the 'BR' element of the name rather similar to the 'BR' logo of Petrobras? As they were widely reported as being interested in F1 at rather more than a sponsorship-only level and had also been in the running to buy ex-Honda GP...

...also, despite the different colours, the 'swoosh' logo and the 'BR' logo's coloured bands are quite similar in proportion!

Or perhaps I've just had too many cornflakes for breakfast :)

#32 airwise

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 08:12

Good luck to all at Brackley. Driving past the place yesterday it was clearly a hive of activity and if I had to choose anyone to pull this off then Ross Brawn would be my first choice. I'm a fan already and hope they can get the 09 car up to speed in time for Melbourne. Can't wait to see it next week. Here's to the next 20 years of RBGP. :up:

#33 condor

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 08:13

:clap: Great news to wake up to :clap:

#34 HoldenRT

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 08:29

Good news for Brawn, Jenson, Rubens and the remaining staff that will stay on at Brackley. :up:

It appears Nick Fry will be staying on (according to Timstr11 in Honda topic). :( :down: I hope he is mistaken.

#35 D.M.N.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 08:36

:clap: Great news to see Honda back under a new name. Let's hope for a "successful*, reliable" season.

* = successful I think would be finishing races and trying to get points near to the end of the year.

#36 dank

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 08:37

Originally posted by lukywill
fantastic news at last. finally people will write his name properly.


http://www.brawngp.com/ :clap:

google still thinks i didn't mean that: 'Did you mean: brown gp'


No expense spared on the website design front. Their trackside IT engineer Gary Foote had a hand in it. Marginally better than the USF1/USGPE effort though ;)

#37 Owen

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 08:57

Respect to these guys, they didn't give up. :up:

#38 Levike

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 09:01

Bad news for Bruno.

#39 nickponty

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 09:16

Hope noone objects to the separate thread for this, but I'm really interested in the car as opposed to who owns/said/paid for what.

Lets start off with what we do know:

Chassis: BGP 001

Engine: Mercedes-Benz FO 108W

Gearbox: McLaren internals with redesigned casing (TBC)

KERS: McLaren/Mercedez-Benz (probably not running in Australia)

Colour scheme: Team - White/black/yellow Sponsor - Blue/Red/White (rumour)

First run - Friday 6th March 2009 (Silverstone)

First Test - Monday 9th March 2009 (Barcelona)

First Race - Sunday 29th March (Melbourne)

Hopefully we might get some leaked information from the shakedown today, but most likely to see the car for the first time on Monday morning - can't wait!!

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#40 Yellowmc

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 09:19

How did the McLaren deal come about?

#41 lustigson

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 09:22

I wonder if the car will be called 'Brawn-Mercedes' or 'BGP-Mercedes'.

#42 Owen

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 09:25

Where is Fry?

The extent of Honda F1 Chief Executive Nick Fry's involvement in the newly-reborn Brawn GP is yet to be clarified.

The 52-year-old Briton, whose presence in the world of Formula One dating back to the British American Racing (BAR) team guise has often attracted harsh criticism, represented the Brackley squad on Thursday when the Formula One Teams’ Association presented its future vision to the press in Geneva.

But, several hours later, his name was not mentioned once in the 700-word press release heralding the birth of the team's new guise under the ownership and leadership of Ross Brawn.

In Geneva, Fry was the first to leave the FOTA event, refusing to take questions from the floor, The Guardian newspaper revealed and ‘did nothing to dispel the growing impression that he has been marginalised at the team he once led,’ the newspaper claimed.

From F1-Live.com

#43 Hacklerf

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 09:26

Ross Brawn, fantastic :up:

#44 nickponty

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 09:28

Originally posted by lustigson
I wonder if the car will be called 'Brawn-Mercedes' or 'BGP-Mercedes'.


I would imagine its formal name would be [Title Sponsor] Brawn Grand Prix Mercedes, but that it'll be shortened to Brawn-Mercedes on tv screens, in commentary, etc...

#45 peroa

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 09:29

Anybody goin` to Snetterton to make a few spyshots?
:cool:

#46 EvilPhil II

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 09:30

I think what you have to remember is that Fry is a business man. And if there is no money in the pot to be paid from then he is likely to go elsewhere. What he may have done is whilst it was still under Honda ownership (up until midnight last night) he would have still been employed by Honda to find a new owner. So maybe he was sat on the other side of the table during these discussions.

Where as Brawn, this is his passion and his life. Maybe hes willing to do it for nothing out of love? who knows... He's also proven himself already many many times so there isnt a risk involved like there would be with Fry.

Great news though.

#47 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 09:30

Originally posted by peroa
Anybody goin` to Snetterton to make a few spyshots?
:cool:

Could be fun considering their press release says they are at Silverstone

#48 philhitchings

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 09:30

I think that'll depend on who the title sponsor is, also how much they pay in sponsorship.

#49 peroa

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 09:32

Well, they changed it now for a dozen times ...

:drunk: :stoned:


Also here, it says Snetterton as Silverstone is already booked:

http://forums.autosp...226#post3498226

#50 muramasa

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 09:35

Originally posted by Gilles4Ever

Could be fun considering their press release says they are at Silverstone

info that their trucks were already at sneteton was not true? :stoned: