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#3001 WebBerK

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 04:57

Brawn to advertise another one off deal with QTel mobile company in Abu Dhabi, just like it did with Canon and Itaipava.

You read it first here, it snot even in the BrawnGp site yet. :p

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#3002 Captain Tightpants

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 05:11

It's been on GP Update for hours.

Fortunately, the Qtel logo looks pretty good, so it's no goin to be something sub-par like Banco do Brasil.

#3003 Brawn BGP 001

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 14:43

Good days running looks like McLaren v Brawn for the victory with Red Bull just behind.

Edited by Brawn BGP 001, 30 October 2009 - 14:44.


#3004 athlon

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 14:55

Yeah they are quick so far...

#3005 Brawn BGP 001

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 14:58

Jenson had his last run on the primes and he was setting quick S1 and S2 times, S3 was a a bit of a struggle.

#3006 athlon

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 15:22

Jenson had his last run on the primes and he was setting quick S1 and S2 times, S3 was a a bit of a struggle.


I couldn't watch the FP2. Both McLarens ran their fastest laps on options? And what about Vettel?

By the way: I've read Fry's comments on motorsport.com, and he would give 80% that Jenson stays at the team... It less than 99 what Ross said about. And Jenson claimed that he wants new challenges... I hope he stays. Button an icon for this team, engineers, mechanics, employers know him well, it would be sad to see him leaving after a good season. At least he should race with the No1 race number at this team. He was supported even in 2004, after the Buttongate 1...
But I'm happy that Rosberg is arriving...

#3007 mstar

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 16:09

put it this way if button leaves and a new driver line-up brawn will be on the back foot compared to the other teams. its shocking brawn cannot give jb the money -really shocking.

#3008 athlon

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 16:17

put it this way if button leaves and a new driver line-up brawn will be on the back foot compared to the other teams. its shocking brawn cannot give jb the money -really shocking.


I don't think that they cannot give JB... I support Jenson, because he needs a champion-salary, the 8m would be ideal...
It's good that they don't commantate their salary issues in public. Fry said 80% that he stays. It less what Ross had said former, but still very likely. They're going to sit down to negotiate.


#3009 athlon

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 16:17

A Davidson-Rosberg duo would be perfect...

#3010 Psymon

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 16:19

put it this way if button leaves and a new driver line-up brawn will be on the back foot compared to the other teams. its shocking brawn cannot give jb the money -really shocking.


On James Allen's site he suggests that contract length could also be a sticking point
http://www.jamesalle...g-williams-for/

Meanwhile Jenson Button confirmed this afternoon that he has started discussions with Brawn about a new contract, but said that he wanted to sit down seriously after this weekend to focus on the future. I sense that as much as money, the duration of the contract could be a key point. He would like a long contract, I imagine, especially bearing in mind that Sebastian Vettel is contracted to Red Bull until the end of 2011 and may well be a Mercedes target for 2012, if they are running their own team by then.



#3011 mstar

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 16:22

its just silly as christian horner said earlier in the bbc fp1 that a really top driver should be getting a salary up there with the other top drivers and he was actually very complemtary that jenson is too good for teams not to give him the salary he is reporting asking.

#3012 Mansell's 'tash

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 16:27

its just silly as christian horner said earlier in the bbc fp1 that a really top driver should be getting a salary up there with the other top drivers and he was actually very complemtary that jenson is too good for teams not to give him the salary he is reporting asking.


unless Ross Brawn feels that there are other drivers that could get the job done in his cars...

#3013 Fatgadget

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 16:35

put it this way if button leaves and a new driver line-up brawn will be on the back foot compared to the other teams. its shocking brawn cannot give jb the money -really shocking.


I really don't see anything shocking about Brawn refusing to buckle under what they consider an inflated salary demand. All they need to do is come up with another rocket-ship ala the BGP 001 and the rest will take care of itself...Even a Pedro Diniz pay-driver could have dominated in that car! :cat:


#3014 dank

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 11:31

Looking likely that Paul di Resta will be on testing duties with Brawn during the days allocated to 'young drivers' next month. Good news :up:

#3015 Clatter

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 11:36

Even a Pedro Diniz pay-driver could have dominated in that car! :cat:


People keep posting this sort of thing, and not just in relation to Brawn, but always seem to miss the fact that there are 2 drivers in the team, and yet only one of them dominated. If anyone could have, why wasn't the second driver closer?

#3016 athlon

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 16:11

Looking likely that Paul di Resta will be on testing duties with Brawn during the days allocated to 'young drivers' next month. Good news :up:


I agree. Excellent.

* Where does it take place? In Jerez?

Edited by athlon, 05 November 2009 - 16:13.


#3017 Timstr11

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 20:01

Brawn:

"We're comfortable with our situation, let's say that," the team boss told BBC Radio Five.

"Once we've got Jenson sorted then we'll be announcing our whole package, and we want to make an impact when we do that."


Surely he means the title sponsor as well.

Another tidbit:
I remember Jonathan Legard saying that Ross Brawn has indicated the 2010 car will feature a Red Bull style high nose.
But we already knew that from the ridges they were testing last July.




#3018 athlon

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 20:16

Brawn:

Surely he means the title sponsor as well.

Another tidbit:
I remember Jonathan Legard saying that Ross Brawn has indicated the 2010 car will feature a Red Bull style high nose.
But we already knew that from the ridges they were testing last July.


I'm really hoping that Brawn won't copy the Red Bull direclty :D That ridges are looking good. We'll see. I think they designed a shark fin engine cover (they tested it in Spa), but I loved watching the front wing of BGP001. It was so nice from the endplates to nosecone. Maybe the Red Bull-version is faster, but it's so ugly. I had a true feeling that BGP001 is a real race car despite these ugly cars with their high noses... But OK, we will get used to it. the most important thing is TO BE FAST. :D The beauty is another thing.

#3019 Dalton007

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 20:29

Listening to Ross on BBC Radio 5 Live, he said that teams were trying to sign Button during the year and destabilize the team in the process. I do wonder if Red Bull were, and maybe still are, trying to get Jenson into the team.

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#3020 Timstr11

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 20:29

I'm really hoping that Brawn won't copy the Red Bull direclty

I think most teams will copy the shape, as it's a trick to decrease the cross section of the nose between the front wheels, while maintaining the FIA regulated dimensions.

#3021 Owen

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 20:32

No offence to the Brawn massive, but shouldn't this thread be closed now?

#3022 Timstr11

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 21:25

No offence to the Brawn massive, but shouldn't this thread be closed now?

I think when Brawn announces the 2010 drivers and sponsors is a good time to start a new thread.