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[Jimmy]

Sorry I can't provide a source but a while ago, I remember reading some Internet speculation that Webber was really born in 1973, not 1976, which would make him 3 years older than he claims to be.

Has anyone else heard this rumour?

[derstatic]

Heard the rumour and someone telling it's bull with some convincing evidence. Can't remember what that evidence would be though. It has been discussed on this BB before, maybe you can find the answer in another thread somewhere.

[GhostR]

As far as I'm aware it's a rumour that's never been substantiated, despite Bira (staff here a few years back) being a strong believer.

[Supersleeper]

Originally posted by Jimmy
Sorry I can't provide a source but a while ago, I remember reading some Internet speculation that Webber was really born in 1973, not 1976, which would make him 3 years older than he claims to be.

Has anyone else heard this rumour?

Try Here:

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/

Let us know how you go.

[DLaw]

who cares?

[Dolph]

Originally posted by DLaw
who cares?

Well, apparently the OP. Or was that unclear?

[dank]

99.9% certain he was born 27 Aug 1976.

[Madras]

I was born in 1976 too, I have to say Webber looks the same age as me.

[BuzzingHornet]

I have my doubts... I was born in 1975 and Webber somehow seems older than me, always has... he wouldn't be the first racing driver to fib about his age ;) Don't blame him if he has, he's still young anyway.

Its funny actually, one thing that made me wonder was an old pic of Webber meeting Michael Schumacher... this was before Webber was a racing driver proper. Webber looked about as old as he does now ;) I don't have the pic unfortunately.

[Slowinfastout]

Villeneuve pretended to be younger than he really was back in '76 so that's nothing new.. just surprising Webber could still get away with something like that now..

[Madras]

Originally posted by BuzzingHornet
I have my doubts... I was born in 1975 and Webber somehow seems older than me, always has... he wouldn't be the first racing driver to fib about his age ;) Don't blame him if he has, he's still young anyway.

Its funny actually, one thing that made me wonder was an old pic of Webber meeting Michael Schumacher... this was before Webber was a racing driver proper. Webber looked about as old as he does now ;) I don't have the pic unfortunately.

I think it's the shape of Webbers face and chin that have made him look older than he is. If he was lying about his age you'd hear people he went to school with commenting.

[BuzzingHornet]

True.

[Mr M0by]

Originally posted by dank
99.9% certain he was born 27 Aug 1976.

Really? I was born in Nov 76 & he looks at least 5 years older than me! Mind you, I do look a fair bit younger than I am.... gradually as I age it's beginning to be a good thing.

[Dolph]

Originally posted by Madras


I think it's the shape of Webbers face and chin that have made him look older than he is. If he was lying about his age you'd hear people he went to school with commenting.

Good point. In such a day and age it would be really hard to lie about smth like that.

[Dolph]

Originally posted by Mr M0by


Really? I was born in Nov 76 & he looks at least 5 years older than me! Mind you, I do look a fair bit younger than I am.... gradually as I age it's beginning to be a good thing.

So what are you saying that you look 3 years younger than you are and he looks 2 years older than he is!?

[Knot]

Originally posted by Madras
I was born in 1976 too, I have to say Webber looks the same age as me.

I was born in 1969 and I look at least a decade younger than I am. Some of the people I went to high school with look a decade older.

[K-One]

I wasn born in 70's and Webbo looks older than my dad

[Pharazon]

it's not like he's a Nigerian soccer player

[Madras]

Originally posted by K-One
I wasn born in 70's and Webbo looks older than my dad

Seriously I dont think Webber looks that old, he looks his age imo.

[Chubby_Deuce]

Originally posted by Pharazon
it's not like he's a Nigerian soccer player

At least he's not trying to enter the Little League World Series.

[sldsmkd]

Originally posted by Madras
I was born in 1976 too, I have to say Webber looks the same age as me.

I was born in 73 and he looks older than me.

[Apollonius]

Originally posted by Pharazon
it's not like he's a Nigerian soccer player

Like Yakubu - Even Everton admit they don't know his true age!

[Dolph]

Originally posted by sldsmkd


I was born in 73 and he looks older than me.

People, seriously, just because someone who is younger than you looks older than you does not mean he is lieing about his age. In fact people age very differently. In addition, what some people perceive as old looking might seem young to other people.

[Seanspeed]

Can someone explain what the point of lying about your age is? Especially saying you're *younger* than you really are? :

[Madras]

Originally posted by Dolph


People, seriously, just because someone who is younger than you looks older than you does not mean he is lieing about his age. In fact people age very differently. In addition, what some people perceive as old looking might seem young to other people.

Exactly. When you're at school there's always one guy who can always get served in a pub, he looks older. That continues through life, some people look older than others.

If you look at a close up of Webber's face, his skin does not look that bad, he could quite easily be 32.

[Madras]

Originally posted by TheHumanPromise
Can someone explain what the point of lying about your age is? Especially saying you're *younger* than you really are? :

Easier to get a seat in an F1 team if you're younger. I believe he was 25 when he started at Minardi, would he have got a chance if he was 28? Flav recently said Bourdais was too old for Renault...

But anyway, unless someone has actual hard evidence that Webber is 35, he isnt, he's 32.

[Chubby_Deuce]

Originally posted by TheHumanPromise
Can someone explain what the point of lying about your age is? Especially saying you're *younger* than you really are? :

Racing drivers are considering old once they reach their mid twenties, everyone is looking for a young talent to develop and exploit.

[Seanspeed]

Originally posted by Madras


Easier to get a seat in an F1 team if you're younger. I believe he was 25 when he started at Minardi, would he have got a chance if he was 28? Flav recently said Bourdais was too old for Renault...

But anyway, unless someone has actual hard evidence that Webber is 35, he isnt, he's 32.

Oh, ok, thanks guys. Makes sense.

[ensign14]

Originally posted by Madras


Easier to get a seat in an F1 team if you're younger. I believe he was 25 when he started at Minardi, would he have got a chance if he was 28? Flav recently said Bourdais was too old for Renault...

Yep, Gilles Villeneuve knocked 2 years off his age for that reason.

[PassWind]

He was born in 46' cryogenics and the fact he is really Batman help him look a lot younger than he is, the reason there isn't much information on his accident is because it wasn't one, Mr Freeze attacked him while on course, snapped his leg with a freeze ray and baseball bat, hence the cold room treatment to slowly thaw his leg.

The above is about as plausible as the rest of bullshit here.

[Dolph]

Originally posted by Chubby_Deuce


Racing drivers are considering old once they reach their mid twenties, everyone is looking for a young talent to develop and exploit.

Well, actually the up and coming talent is quite old:

Pantano 30 (raced in F1 when he was 25)
Paffett 28
Green 26
Senna 25
Di Grassi 24
Maldonado 24
Parente 24
Asmer 24 (had to throw him in)
di Resta 23 (in a month)
Grosjean 22
Mortara 22
Kobayashi 22
Hülkenberg 21


The first chance they have of getting into F1 is in 2010. Thus, you should add one year to their age to get the age when they potentially enter F1.

So basically, according to your theory (which I actually believe). Green et al have already missed the boat. If Senna gets into F1 he'll be 26.

How old were other guys when they got a racing seat:

Hamilton 22
Kovalainen 25
Räikkönen 21
Massa 21
Kubica 21
Heidfeld 22
Alonso 19
Piquet 22
Trulli 22
Glock 22 (reentered @26)
Bourdais 29 (entered CART @24)
Buemi 20
Webber 25
Vettel 20
Rosberg 20
Nakajima 22
Button 20
Barrichello 20
Sutil 24
Fisichella 23

Badoer 22
Klien 21
Coulthard 23
Liuzzi 23

Seems like 20-22 years of age is most common. So at the start of next year all the guys on (my) talent list will be already 23 with the exception of the Hulk... So are we seeing a shift in the teams expectations to a driver? Do they want their new drivers to have more experience? Seems like it to me.

[potmotr]

I've met Mark Webber and thought he looked quite youthful in the flesh.

Picture reproduction on television or in print and on the internet can make people look older.

The one think about Webber which makes me think this argument has some merit is the age of his partner Anne. She's a decade older than him, which I've always found very unusual for an Alpha Male like Mark.

Still, this argument would be pretty easy to solve. Find out which year Mark finished High School. If it is 1994 he's the Honest Don we'd like to think he is.

Another driver who lied about his age was Roland Ratzenberger. Said he was 32 when he was actually 34.

[potmotr]

What I think is quite crazy is that heaps of people in this thread think they look younger than they are.

How can you judge your own age?

[potmotr]

Originally posted by Dolph

Vettel 20

Vettel was 19 when he made his debut at the 2007 United States Grand Prix.

[LoudHoward]

Indeed, I consider everyone I knew at school for instance to look younger than they are now (mid-20s). Still, Marks often unshaven and I think that adds to it, but Iwhen I look at the pics of him in '02 he definately looks mid-20s, not getting into his 30s almost!

[potmotr]

I think the fact he is a tall guy who is extremely lean may add to the impression he's a little older.

Plus the fact he has a man's jaw.

But Jarno Trulli is two years older and is really starting to look like a (nearly) 35 year old IMO.

[Dolph]

Originally posted by potmotr
What I think is quite crazy is that heaps of people in this thread think they look younger than they are.

How can you judge your own age?

In Estonia you are not allowed to purchase cigarettes when you are under 18. When I was still smoking at the age of 23 they kept asking to see my documents. Some months ago when I was 25 I was also asked to present documents so I could by beer (also 18 years of age required). So although, I did not mention it in this thread, if anyone would ask me if I looked younger then I am, I would say that some people definitely think I am way younger than what I really am.

Originally posted by potmotr


Vettel was 19 when he made his debut at the 2007 United States Grand Prix.

Yes. But as it was a matter of a few weeks so I rounded it up.

[Terry Walker]

The d.o.b. on his passport will the the right one. It's bloody hard to get an Aussie passport with a false d.o.b.

[calibre001]

Originally posted by Terry Walker
The d.o.b. on his passport will the the right one. It's bloody hard to get an Aussie passport with a false d.o.b.

Great- and what date is in his passport? I reckon the date on his birth certificate is also probably right.

[giacomo]

Looks doesn't say anything about age. I remember that Rubens Barrichello looked like a man in his mid-30ies when he was in his early 20ies. Now he still looks like a man in his mid-30ies.

And Gilles Villeneuve - who was well beyond his 30th birthday when he died - always looked like a man in his early 20ies.

[potmotr]

Originally posted by Dolph

Yes. But as it was a matter of a few weeks so I rounded it up.

Sure, but the record will always say he was 19.

[Dolph]

Originally posted by potmotr


Sure, but the record will always say he was 19.

FOR CHRISTS SAKE I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT RECORDS!! I'M TALKING ABOUT THE AGE DRIVERS ARE CONSIDERED TO ENTER F1. THIS IS NOT THE "YOUNGEST EVER" LIST. A FEW DAYS WEEKS OR MONTHS DON'T MATTER. I'AM NOT TRYING TO DECEIVE ANYBODY AND YOU ARE NOT A DETECTIVE WHO UNCOVERED A LIE OR A LAWYER WHO READ THE FINE PRINT THE BEST.

[potmotr]

Er, OK.

[Madras]

Originally posted by Dolph


FOR CHRISTS SAKE I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT RECORDS!! I'M TALKING ABOUT THE AGE DRIVERS ARE CONSIDERED TO ENTER F1. THIS IS NOT THE "YOUNGEST EVER" LIST. A FEW DAYS WEEKS OR MONTHS DON'T MATTER. I'AM NOT TRYING TO DECEIVE ANYBODY AND YOU ARE NOT A DETECTIVE WHO UNCOVERED A LIE OR A LAWYER WHO READ THE FINE PRINT THE BEST.

Calm Down.

[Turbo4]

First post, been reading for years though.

For what it's worth, my sister-in-law went to school with Webber from the start of high school. Lovely guy apparently, very popular. Unless he's been lieing about his age since he was 12, he's a 1976-born baby just like most of the rest of her school year.

[dank]

/thread closed

[potmotr]

I think part of the issue here is that Mark Webber appears to get a five o'clock shadow at midday.

[Tony Matthews]

Originally posted by potmotr
I think part of the issue here is that Mark Webber appears to get a five o'clock shadow at midday.

Perhaps he shaves the previous evening...

[potmotr]

Originally posted by Tony Matthews
Perhaps he shaves the previous evening...

The plot thickens...

;)

[Chubby_Deuce]

Originally posted by Turbo4
First post, been reading for years though.

For what it's worth, my sister-in-law went to school with Webber from the start of high school. Lovely guy apparently, very popular. Unless he's been lieing about his age since he was 12, he's a 1976-born baby just like most of the rest of her school year.

Prepare to be challenged on this. Some way, somehow.