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[Michael Mc]

Hi
Looking for some help in finding photos with the intention of buying of ff1600 from the early eighties from both the uk & Ireland.
Looking in particular for Irish drivers who competed in the uk, David Kennedy,Bernard Devaney,Tommy Byrne,Derek Daly & Paul Bishop etc. If someone could point me in the right direction or recommend any sites.
Thanks
Michael Mc

[Twin Window]

The direction you need to be pointed-in is using the 'Search BB' facility old chap.

I'll get you started; here's the Tommy Byrne thread...

;)

[MoMurray]

http://img12.imagesh...formulaford.jpg

Copyright unknown...but a nice picture of Derek Daly in the Hawke DL15 in 1976.

Mo

edit...oops. didn't realize it was so small but better than nothing I guess.

[Simon Arron]

You'll find plenty of stuff here... http://forums.autosp...ish club racing

In the meantime, here's David Kennedy's Crosslé 30F in the Oulton Park paddock during the summer of '76.


To the right of the picture, partially obscured, is Fiona - David's future wife - who used to help prep the car. She'd be changing ratios etc while DK loitered in the paddock, drinking tea and trying to extract an extra few shillings from potential sponsors.



The art of poise: Marc Smith leads Jim Walsh through Lodge Corner (from 1979, I believe).

[Stephen W]

From a 1981 Aintree meeting - Richard Peacock (Crossle); Any Middlehurst (Pacer) and Tim Sugden (Royale)

[Mondiale M85S]

Did Paul Bishop drive an 82F Reynard for Eddie Jordan?

[idrive]

I see Rick Morris often. He still quick and shows drivers 1/3rd of his age how it should be done.

But how do I ad an image?...... pse answer in simple English, not computer geek lingo!!

[MoMurray]

Originally posted by Mondiale M85S
Did Paul Bishop drive an 82F Reynard for Eddie Jordan?

Not as I recall. He did drive an RF82 (very quickly) but it was owned or sponsored by a transport company...whose name escapes me.

Mo

[Michael Mc]

Hi Guys,
Thanks a million for your responses & there are some breat shots there, keep em comin.

In relation to the Paul Bishop comments, I am particularly interested in this driver.
I know that after he campaigned his Crossle 45f in Mondello in 81 & after winning the televised Leinster trophy meeting & also winning the Irish formula ford festival he then went to the uk in 1982.
As far as I know he drove for the works Reynard team alonside Andrew Gilbert Scott & a swede called Fredrik Skoghak. I'm not sure if it was a full works drive probably not. Maybe someone can give me more info.
He was always there or there abouts on the pace but unfortunealely only won one race as far as I recall,not to sure where,either Mallory or Silverstone. The one win I don't think was a true reflection of his talents,Any ideas as to where I can get more info/photos on him ??

As for Tommy Bryne,I read his book recently & wow what a talent, so sad that he didn't get to where his talents deserved to be, he comes across as a very rough uncut diamond.
I remember him demolishing a gas lamp at the Phoenix park in 1980 I think it was. The early 80's where just mega.

[MoMurray]

http://forums.autosp...rne#post1907416

Someone mention lamp post?

Mo

[Michael Mc]

Mo,
That's the one alright,It's been a long time since I have seen that picture. Do you have anymore from the park that year ?

[Michael Mc]

Can anyone tell me anymore of the works Reynards of that year with Andrew Gilbert Scott & Skoghak ??
From what I recall Scott was the more successful but was that due to talent or money ??

[alansart]

Originally posted by Michael Mc
Can anyone tell me anymore of the works Reynards of that year with Andrew Gilbert Scott & Skoghak ??
From what I recall Scott was the more successful but was that due to talent or money ??

The were both quite well funded. AGS's money IIRC came from backing the Harvest Moon clothing run by Graham DeZille's father and I seem to remember that Freddie Skoghak's was family money. Of the 2 AGS was probably the best. Freddie as charming as he was off the track seemed to get the red mist when the flag dropped. A friend of mine at the time had been his mechanic.

[MoMurray]

Originally posted by Michael Mc
Mo,
That's the one alright,It's been a long time since I have seen that picture. Do you have anymore from the park that year ?

No I dont Michael. Sorry.

[Michael Mc]

Alan,
Your friend who was mechanic to Skoghak, who did he actually work for, was it for the works Reynard team ?
And if you still have contact with him does he recall anything about the Irish driver Paul Bishop ??
I also remember Bishop returning home to Ireland for the Leinster Trophy meeting with the Reynard & some of his mechanics, he didn't finish the race due to a tangle with someone in Duckhams corner. I think I have some photos somewhere & will see if I can get them on the thread.

What happened to Skoghak,did he progress on to FF2000 or F3 ??

[alansart]

Originally posted by Michael Mc
Alan,
Your friend who was mechanic to Skoghak, who did he actually work for, was it for the works Reynard team ?
And if you still have contact with him does he recall anything about the Irish driver Paul Bishop ??
I also remember Bishop returning home to Ireland for the Leinster Trophy meeting with the Reynard & some of his mechanics, he didn't finish the race due to a tangle with someone in Duckhams corner. I think I have some photos somewhere & will see if I can get them on the thread.

What happened to Skoghak,did he progress on to FF2000 or F3 ??

No, he worked for Richard Owen who ran Skoghak earlier in the year. I don't think he was involved with the Reynard effort.

I don't know what Skoghak did after that... went home I think!

[Michael Mc]

Alan,
Who was Richard Owen & what his involvement with Reynard ??? as far as I know Bishop drove for the works team. Is your friend still involved in the sport ??

Has anyone any photos of Skoghak or indeed any more information, his results etc.

[Phil Rainford]

I do have some pictures of Paul Bishop ( Dublin ) from the 1985 FF Festival in his Crossle 60F ( I take it this is the same driver? )

However they are best left unpublished, as in Heat Five Paul tangled with Kristyan Ingram ( Van Diemen RF85) and was sent sumersaulting over the barriers at the top of Paddock Hill Bend.

The incident resulted in the tragic death of a track marshal.

PAR

[alansart]

My Festival photos from 84, 85 & 86 are here:

http://www.alanraine...RacePhotos.html

Not sure if they are any help.

[Michael Mc]

Phil,

Your right,it is the same driver & I remember that dreadful day,I was in the paddock hill grandstand that day.
The car he drove was a Crossle 32f,it was an old car in comparison to the front runners but even though it wasn't as modern he was still going very quickly that weekend & could have been a serious contender.

If I remember correctly he had qualified on the 1st or 2nd row for the heat but was found to be under weight & put to the back. I understand that prior to qualifying he had attempted to have the car weighed at the scrutiny bay but couldn't. It was not his intention to run under weight.

The photos you have are they prior to the incident ?

[Michael Mc]

Alan,
Thanks very much,those images are fabulous, I just love that era of formula ford racing.
If you have any or know of anymore please let me know.

[Phil Rainford]

Originally posted by Michael Mc
Phil,

Your right,it is the same driver & I remember that dreadful day,I was in the paddock hill grandstand that day.
The car he drove was a Crossle 32f,it was an old car in comparison to the front runners but even though it wasn't as modern he was still going very quickly that weekend & could have been a serious contender.

If I remember correctly he had qualified on the 1st or 2nd row for the heat but was found to be under weight & put to the back. I understand that prior to qualifying he had attempted to have the car weighed at the scrutiny bay but couldn't. It was not his intention to run under weight.

The photos you have are they prior to the incident ?

I do remember him charging his way back up through the field to a postition where he was extremely close to qualifying for the Quarter Final.

I think maybe the incident was due to the fact that he was catching cars that were considerably slower than his Crossle?

The photos I took actually coincided with early stages of the incident......

PAR

[alansart]

Originally posted by Phil Rainford


I do remember him charging his way back up through the field to a postition where he was extremely close to qualifying for the Quarter Final.

I think maybe the incident was due to the fact that he was catching cars that were considerably slower than his Crossle?

The photos I took actually coincided with early stages of the incident......

PAR

What number was he?

[Phil Rainford]

Originally posted by alansart


What number was he?

128.....


PAR

[alansart]

Originally posted by Phil Rainford


128.....


PAR

Thanks Phil. I'll look through my negs and see what I can find.

[Michael Mc]

Thanks chaps for your interest & help, looking forward to your findings.
Phil I would very much like you to reconsider showing me your photos. I do have a series of photos that I bought off a photographer,I think it was Fred Scatley but they are of the aftermath of the accident.

Regards

[alansart]

Originally posted by Michael Mc
Thanks chaps for your interest & help, looking forward to your findings.
Phil I would very much like you to reconsider showing me your photos. I do have a series of photos that I bought off a photographer,I think it was Fred Scatley but they are of the aftermath of the accident.

Regards

Nothing on my negs I'm afraid. I may have only photographed the Semis and Final.

[Mallory Dan]

I saw Bishop in his Reynard early on in '82 at MP - Alansart also... Skoghag later appeared that year in one of the rare PRS 82Fs. VERY wild as I recall.

[alansart]

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Skoghag later appeared that year in one of the rare PRS 82Fs. VERY wild as I recall.

Yep, run by Richard Owen, mechaniced by Colin Cooke.

[bradbury west]

Originally posted by Michael Mc
I do have a series of photos that I bought off a photographer,I think it was Fred Scatley but they are of the aftermath of the accident./B]

IIRC Ted Walker holds the Scatley copyright; see TNF copyright rules.
Roger Lund

[Michael Mc]

I think I recall seeing Shoghak put his yellow reynard upside down at Donington just at the start of the pit straight.

[Gregor Marshall]

Has anyone got pics of Karl "Boyo" Jones or for that matter another Mr Webb/Brands Hatch pupil Tiddly D/Tim Davies or after his tv experiences Tim Lee Davies?

[Michael Mc]

Gregor,

I'm sorry I can't help you out there & I am desperately looking for photos of the Reynards from 1982.
If anyone can help me please do so.