71 replies to this topic

[Bruce]

OK - Ross - You've been vindicated - you have a legal car and are likely to be leading and winning races for a while yet. That being the case, how about getting a decent livery????

That putrid florescent lemon yellow set off by - white - ! with the wee black stripes and the hastily pasted on Virgin logo is, not to put too fine a point on it - AWFUL.

If I get the time in the next couple of days, I'll photoshop a suggestion up - in the meantime - any colour suggestions? (And please - let Jenson and Rubens go back to their original helmet colours....)

[Direct Drive]

I truly like the simplicity of it all.
And the fact its winning.

[le chat noir]

its my favourite livery
i like the altered helmets - individuality + team spirit

virgin stickers don't suit though.

and i like the fact bbc pitcrew is similar

[Cplus]

the wheelcovers are the worst bit.

fixed wheel cover look crap generally, but when they're made bright friggen yellow/green/zombie vomit colour they are just plain WRONG.

[Boing 2]

screw the white, day-glo the whole car!!!

[Timstr11]

Hope they ditch the yellow on the wheelcovers. Don't know who dreamed that up. It's hideous.

[RoutariEnjinu]

I think they are quite iconic.

Then again, isn't that what dictates fashion to a degree? Due to the success of the Brawns, and a kind of short term nostalgia, they could be starting something.

There have been ugly F1 cars, but for me it's been the shape that's been ugly.

I think the Brawns are better looking than the unimaginative Toyotas.

That said, considering the lack of busy and distracting decals, they have missed a trick in my opinion as it would have looked deadly in jet black. Not even gloss black but radar absorbing stealth black.

HOW immense would that have looked?

A couple of sinister looking black widows up front.

It would have been EVIL, and also would have kept their aero a bit more of a secret as it's harder to see what ends and starts where, and where things curve etc.

[Chubby_Deuce]

I enjoy the neon. It's much like the color that's on my leathers and old helmet.

[Owen]

Originally posted by Timstr11
Hope they ditch the yellow on the wheelcovers. Don't know who dreamed that up. It's hideous.

Yep. It all looks a bit amateur to me. They need to look at the bigger picture of what they're offering sponsors (as well as tackling the livery asap). It's about the only area on the car where there is room for serious improvement. Well, that and the gearbox.

[senna da silva]

Originally posted by Bruce
OK - Ross - You've been vindicated - you have a legal car and are likely to be leading and winning races for a while yet. That being the case, how about getting a decent livery????

That putrid florescent lemon yellow set off by - white - ! with the wee black stripes and the hastily pasted on Virgin logo is, not to put too fine a point on it - AWFUL.

If I get the time in the next couple of days, I'll photoshop a suggestion up - in the meantime - any colour suggestions? (And please - let Jenson and Rubens go back to their original helmet colours....)

Agreed.

[glorius&victorius]

I love the livery as it is....
I was more wondering about their website... that looks like its from the late nineties...

I can understand that BrawnGP was born very last minute and the team put together a website in all haste... but with several weeks into its existence...and with the availability of sexy and free content management platforms... they must be able to put something more decent...

[engel]

I wish somebody would make an all black car ... I miss those JPS lotus cars

[Andy Donovan]

Originally posted by RoutariEnjinu
That said, considering the lack of busy and distracting decals, they have missed a trick in my opinion as it would have looked deadly in jet black. Not even gloss black but radar absorbing stealth black.

HOW immense would that have looked?

A couple of sinister looking black widows up front.

It would have been EVIL, and also would have kept their aero a bit more of a secret as it's harder to see what ends and starts where, and where things curve etc.

And a row of red lights on the nose like Knight Rider?

I like the day-glo, anything to stop the whole grid becoming red/white.

[ForeverF1]

I suppose they could always go back to the Earthworks livery, in loving memory of Honda.....;)

[RedBaron]

You think they'll get some more sponsors now (which might lead to livery adjustments), maybe they were waiting to confirm contracts based on the hearing and thefore future performance?

[RoutariEnjinu]

Originally posted by ForeverF1
I suppose they could always go back to the Earthworks livery, in loving memory of Honda.....;)

Or they could marker pen some craters on and have MoonDreams livery.

[werks prototype]

A nice retro Tyrrell blue.

They will ultimately put whatever they are paid to put on. Anybody remember the shock of the Winfield Williams.

[potmotr]

Originally posted by Timstr11
Hope they ditch the yellow on the wheelcovers. Don't know who dreamed that up. It's hideous.

I think the wheel covers should be banned from the sport completely.

Ferrari's are just as bad IMO, as they also feature that awful spoke arrangement.

[Blythy]

Originally posted by ForeverF1
I suppose they could always go back to the Earthworks livery, in loving memory of Honda.....;)

I say having the world on their back was slowing them down.

It's fine the way it is, it's far better than the renault livery. And, at least it's original, and not dominated by the major sponsor.

Bruce, when can we see more cartoons?

[djellison]

Originally posted by le chat noir
its my favourite livery
i like the altered helmets - individuality + team spirit

Agreed - I actually quite like it! (Although I don't like the shop available team merchandise much)

[aportinga]

Originally posted by engel
I wish somebody would make an all black car ... I miss those JPS lotus cars

Agreed - when Minardi USA entered in ChampCar I thought they looked fantastic.

I always wondered why more teams do not use darker colors - certainly that would make it more difficult for their opponents to figure out the design.

[potmotr]

Originally posted by aportinga


I always wondered why more teams do not use darker colors - certainly that would make it more difficult for their opponents to figure out the design.

I think I read somewhere that dark colours don't appear that well on television.

Apparently the best is blue on white (ie: Williams, BMW-Sauber) for televisual recognition.

[niallmckiernan]

cover it in tinfoil and blind the opposition

[RoutariEnjinu]

I want to see an F1 car in Chocolate Brown with Baby Blue bands running down it.

Would be ace.

F1 Trivia: Has there ever been a brown based F1 car?

[inaki]

I do not have a special problem with Brawn cars livery.
But what I can barely stand is the yellow fluo color in the wheel rim covers.

I think rims can be either natural alloy plated, gold color or even black, but the yellow fluo is disgusting.

I find these ones acceptable, look at this beauties:








But this ones are horrible:

[Blythy]

Originally posted by potmotr


I think I read somewhere that dark colours don't appear that well on television.

Apparently the best is blue on white (ie: Williams, BMW-Sauber) for televisual recognition.

the best is the one at the front

[Scotracer]

I wish they would use their Honda test livery (all-black). It was awesome

[Cplus]

reminds me of the Losi XXX I had when I was 15

[Buttoneer]

It's fine as it is. Never been seen before, never to be seen again. Brawn is a brilliant man, he's definitely no aesthete.

[barnardferrari]

Originally posted by RoutariEnjinu
I want to see an F1 car in Chocolate Brown with Baby Blue bands running down it.

Would be ace.

F1 Trivia: Has there ever been a brown based F1 car?

[ForeverF1]

It would be cool if they could use an adaptation based on this theme....

[NineOneSeven]

I like it.. and I like the drives changing their colours t suit. I would like the wheels to be black though.

[RedBaron]

Speaking of rims... here's some we should forget, along with the rest of the car.



Blue rims one side... red rims the other... at least BrawnGP is fast.

[ForeverF1]

Yes!!

[tidytracks]

Agreed - all black with the flouro yellow and thin white flashes would look epic.

[stevvy1986]

i'd imagine once they get a load of sponsors for the cars it'll change a fair bit (especially if they get a title sponsor who wants the car painted in a specific way (eg virgin would likely want a red car as their main colour is red) so i wouldn't worry about it too much, the livery was probably 1 of the last things they were bothered about coming into the start of the season

[giltkid]

Originally posted by RoutariEnjinu
I want to see an F1 car in Chocolate Brown with Baby Blue bands running down it.

Would be ace.

F1 Trivia: Has there ever been a brown based F1 car?

The Rebacque team circa 1979 was brown. Ironically they were also ****.

[Dolph]

I still can't imagine that the best team in F1 does not have a half-decent sponsorship package.

[giltkid]

Rebaque in brown with yellow stripes.

[Barramut]

Mankind tends to customize its personal objects according to their preferences, like the color of the things he likes the most.

So its only natural that Ross Brawn chose the banana livery to his cars.

Go Brawnanas

[I just dislike the yellow callots, but must recognize that it was usefull in the heavy rain of Sepang].

[TickTickBooom]

I reckon the design of the livery was a lot like the design of the Virgin logo.

"I see the livery as something like this...*scribbles with black pen*...oh, hand me that marker pen, will you?"

[bobcat]

As someone else said here, the Brawn looks like it's dressed in a cheap shell-suit.

Adding to the black car ideas, the Arrows A19 looked pretty good IMHO.

[BWL]

I think the Brawn livery is just fine until they bring additional sponsors on board. The neon yellow is distinctive and adds a different look to the grid. I had feared that with the Virgin sponsorship we would have yet another red and white car ...

[Bruce]

Good responses guys- I agree - you'd have to go a long way to beat the JPS lotus... though I did like the dark green essex lotus too... I have always thought that a matte black car would be dead cool too...

As to White - this is what I keep hearing - that the white is best for telly. Apparently Stewart Grand Prix spent a sh#tload of money researching this and got a very specific type of white for their cars to make them read right on telly.... and if you ask me, in spite of the money spent, they still looked awful.

From a graphic design perspective, I'd have to say that I think the best car on the grid is the McLaren at present. I did like the Lucky Strike Honda's of about 4 years ago too....

[Bruce]

Oh - and one of the best looking recent sponsorship liveries? Repsol Honda in MotoGP - not sure if they still look great, but they were fantastic looking the midnight blue set off by the orange and red - fantastic.

[917k]

Car looks bare and cheap, especially in mostly white.

Embarassing for F1 for a winning car to be so short of sponsorship.

[Bruce]

Originally posted by 917k
Car looks bare and cheap, especially in mostly white.

Embarassing for F1 for a winning car to be so short of sponsorship.

It won't be for long....

[pongkai]

I love the livery. It reminds me of the fluorescents used in MotoGP, which I've always liked.

I hate the wheel covers though. Those got to go.

[Lopek]

I actually like the simplicity, and it compliments the engineering led nature of the team. Shows that the focus is in the right place.

[917k]

Originally posted by Bruce


It won't be for long....

Given the performance advantage, and the likelihood the car would be at the front [esp. at Sepang], I think a lot of advertisers missed the opportunity of a lifetime.

Considering the cost / exposure ratio for Virgin, it seems stupid for someone else NOT to step up, even on a race-by-race basis.