35 replies to this topic

[jeze]

This is a loaded question, but I'd go for IndyCar, because of the higher oval speed and the shorter races, which doesn't make you falling asleep late in the race, which you could during a NASCAR race, given that it's long evenings in Europe ;)

[Slyder]

*prepares flame-proof nomex suits for all posters that post here, including me*

;)

[MinT]

You forg ot the third option:

Neither - I could care less about either.

[jeze]

Originally posted by MinT
You forg ot the third option:

Neither - I could care less about either.

Then don't vote man ;)

[jeze]

Originally posted by Slyder
*prepares flame-proof nomex suits for all posters that post here, including me*

;)

Thank you, how is the price? I'll come back with my arguments favouring IndyCar later, but actually I like them both!

[senna da silva]

Where's the both option, why do you have to choose one over the other when you can have both?

[brabhamBT19]

buh I didnt vote and I do not attempt to.

I liked both Cart and Nascar in the '90s but now its just too artificial

I do not like:

fake yellows (both)
races starting in dusk ending in night(nascar)
one make series (indycar)
COT


But what buggs me the most is Driver rooster (both indycar and nascar)

those series are missing the greats, modern day nascar drivers are nothing like Earnhardt, Jarrett, Irvan, Allison, Kulwicki, oh and Trickle
Indycar also, I would trade both Danica and Milka for just a half of Bobby Rahal any day.

dunno, it all lost sense really, It is not motorracin' anymore its motorshow

[primer]

Of the two, NASCAR.

I have not yet developed the 'stamina' to watch a full NASCAR sprint cup race, but the one hour or so of highlight package is watchable if there is no other motorsport on TV.

[aportinga]

Originally posted by MinT
You forg ot the third option:

Neither - I could care less about either.

Agreed

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally posted by primer
Of the two, NASCAR.

I have not yet developed the 'stamina' to watch a full NASCAR sprint cup race, but the one hour or so of highlight package is watchable if there is no other motorsport on TV.

Why do NASCAR races go for so long! I can't see what that achieves apart from making people skip the middle of the race, so that the sponsors have no one watching rather than more valuable air time.

[dutra]

i'm a little bit more interested in Nascar, but follow both categories.

[aportinga]

Originally posted by V8 Fireworks


Why do NASCAR races go for so long! I can't see what that achieves apart from making people skip the middle of the race, so that the sponsors have no one watching rather than more valuable air time.

That is funny because the first year of the USGP most of the fans were acting - "Is that it???" when the race ended

[senna da silva]

Originally posted by aportinga


That is funny because the first year of the USGP most of the fans were acting - "Is that it???" when the race ended

And yet they were all wearing Ferrari tee-shirts.

[Lazy Prodigy]

I go for nascar. I think the long races are boring but I like the dynamic of having to adjust the car to the conditions. I think its really neat to watch the good teams come forward, fade, and come forward again in the course of a race.

[Georg_Kuyumji]

Originally posted by V8 Fireworks


Why do NASCAR races go for so long! I can't see what that achieves apart from making people skip the middle of the race, so that the sponsors have no one watching rather than more valuable air time.

Its like an endurance race series.

[jeze]

Originally posted by Georg_Kuyumji


Its like an endurance race series.

I don't really watch the first laps of a NASCAR race, I just see the start, and then I just have the telly on, doing other things. The last 1/3 of a race is really interesting though, and it's always exciting to see JJ turn a **** loose car to a demon in just 400 miles! But the IndyCar races are more or less alive all the time.

[WillG]

I voted NASCAR, although I like both. The long NASCAR races were much better back in the day when the cars weren't as advanced and when reliability and driver fatigue became an issue. Watch an old World 600 race from the 70's or 80's and you will see that they were truly endurance races. Now that everyone is running the whole distance with cars that won't break and with drivers on stringent routines, there's not as much excitement and suspense, which means less fun.

[LuckyStrike1]

NASCAR without a doubt. IndyCar for me lacks the depth in the field, there are too many drivers that don't belong on that level. The races I think are pretty uninteresting also.

The coverage of NASCAR is great, they promote their drivers and team like stars. The depth of knowledge I think is huge, there are a lot of really good drivers all theway down the field. The competition is high, the field is large and the racing is great and not very easy to predict. Also - the drivers and team personell I think are personalities.

NASCAR I say.

[Dunder]

I am not a great fan of either but as a casual viewer I have to say that I prefer NASCAR. It may just be that the TV production is better and that I can watch the races live.

[aportinga]

Originally posted by LuckyStrike1
NASCAR without a doubt. IndyCar for me lacks the depth in the field, there are too many drivers that don't belong on that level. The races I think are pretty uninteresting also.

The coverage of NASCAR is great, they promote their drivers and team like stars. The depth of knowledge I think is huge, there are a lot of really good drivers all theway down the field. The competition is high, the field is large and the racing is great and not very easy to predict. Also - the drivers and team personell I think are personalities.

NASCAR I say.

If they got rid of the Danica's - sent Marco to Atlantics or ALMS for a bit and brought in Servia, Tracy and a few others who are currently on the sideline, I think we would resolve that.

[BMW_F1]

NASCAR for me, its more exciting and difficult for the drivers.

[wide-front-wing]

It's almost impossible to be an IndyCar fan these days...

It really does suck beyond all possible belief.

There are basically two series - NASCAR and F1.

Frankly, both GP2 and A1GP are superior to IndyCar.

[aportinga]

Agreed - and too add to that, ALMS seems headed downward and I honestly don't know if the Atlantics wee really get going.

[Alfisti]

NASCAR has potential but the races need to be almost halve din length. A few enduro races a year is fine but all the 400 and 500 mile races mean the middle 2 hours is dead boring.

[BMW_F1]

Originally posted by wide-front-wing
It's almost impossible to be an IndyCar fan these days...

It really does suck beyond all possible belief.

There are basically two series - NASCAR and F1.

Frankly, both GP2 and A1GP are superior to IndyCar.

I am not so sure. We can certaintly use Doornbos performance in both series to rate the series quality of talent. During the St.Pete's race the commentators mentioned how Doornbos has mentioned his struggles to adjust to the indy cars which requires a totally different braking technique.

[wide-front-wing]

Originally posted by BMW_F1


I am not so sure. We can certaintly use Doornbos performance in both series to rate the series quality of talent. During the St.Pete's race the commentators mentioned how Doornbos has mentioned his struggles to adjust to the indy cars which requires a totally different braking technique.

IndyCar is a JOKE.

[aportinga]

Originally posted by Alfisti
NASCAR has potential but the races need to be almost halve din length. A few enduro races a year is fine but all the 400 and 500 mile races mean the middle 2 hours is dead boring.

Nascar need a team headed by Ron Dennis and another by Eddie Jordan. Good food and hot pit babes would help as well.

And why not run Atlanta and Road America?

Unfortunately NASCAR is FAR - FAR worse off in terms of attracting me then the IRL.

[BMW_F1]

Originally posted by wide-front-wing




IndyCar is a JOKE.

and the connection between the video and my point about Doornbos is?

[jeze]

Originally posted by wide-front-wing




IndyCar is a JOKE.

Could you explain why in a little more subtle way ;)

[Phucaigh]

Originally posted by aportinga


Nascar need a team headed by Ron Dennis and another by Eddie Jordan. Good food and hot pit babes would help as well.

And why not run Atlanta and Road America?

Unfortunately NASCAR is FAR - FAR worse off in terms of attracting me then the IRL.

You could think of Jack Roush as Ron Dennis wearing a hat and Eddie Jordan could be Michael Waltrip.

[stevewf1]

I voted for NASCAR and I'm not even a NASCAR fan.

[aportinga]

Originally posted by Phucaigh


Eddie Jordan could be Michael Waltrip.

[John B]

Originally posted by aportinga
Agreed - and too add to that, ALMS seems headed downward and I honestly don't know if the Atlantics wee really get going.

Even with there being 2 classes too many, I really enjoyed ALMS for the past two years with the Penske/Audi et al competition and Sebring this year on the basis of having distinctive, non spec cars running on real road courses. Obviously as you mention the economy and rules have decimated the prototypes, though with Corvette and Jaguar joining BMW as newcomers GT2 looks interesting down the road.

Of the choices, despite some changes I'm not thrilled about of recent I prefer NASCAR, haven't had much interest in Indy for a while. Would if they got some names back and picked up the old road courses.

[LB]

Originally posted by aportinga


Nascar need a team headed by Ron Dennis and another by Eddie Jordan. Good food and hot pit babes would help as well.

And why not run Atlanta and Road America?

Unfortunately NASCAR is FAR - FAR worse off in terms of attracting me then the IRL.

For someone that claimed to have no interest in either you sure are talking a lot about it.

Indycar for me only cause I prefer single seaters to taxis. Though I like Nascar too.

[Saint Devote]

Why would anyone want to watch colourful taxi cabs - still using carburettors - asthmatically going around ovals?

Formula Honda aka: Indycars, whilst rather boring generally do come alive at Indianapolis and Watkins Glen.

[jeze]

I think they should have merged the Champ Car chassis into IndyCar as well, that was a much better one, but of course nothing is perfect :