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[Joe Bosworth]

Let's see now

Wms Toyota 1/2 Toyota T 18/19

McL Merc 13/14 Brawn Merc 4/6 F India Merc 12/untimed

Ferarri F 10/15 Toro R F 9/12

The only factory team getting it done so far is:
Renault Renault 3/8 Red Bull Renault 5/7

[Craven Morehead]

F. Alonso 1.21.781
N. Piquet 1.22.349

Yup, nearly six-tenths behind his team mate.



Sorry!

there it is again..

[MinT]

Times a lot slower than in testing.

Ferrari nowhere seen in the speedtrap. You do know what that means.

They are really slow ?

[Menace]

They are really slow ?

Looking at the full stint times, the Ferrari's are anything but slow. Very comparable to Red Bull, and definately more consistent then the Brawn's.

Looks like Ferrari's update is indeed quite the step forward.

[rodlamas]

Looking at the full stint times, the Ferrari's are anything but slow. Very comparable to Red Bull, and definately more consistent then the Brawn's.

Looks like Ferrari's update is indeed quite the step forward.

Ferrari definitely looks like a top 8, maybe top 6 car.

But then won't do an Alonso run on Q3 and on ultimate pace Brawn is still faster and the RBR drivers are just too good for one lap.

Maybe they will get a top-5 finish, but they are still away from fighting for a podium.

[D.M.N.]

Ferrari could and I hope, get a handful of points this weekend. Podium possible?

[Cenotaph]

there it is again..

[Menace]

Kimi Raikkonen: “We have definitely made a step forward in performance terms on the car: you can feel a greater level of aerodynamic downforce and that’s what we needed. Sure, it’s Friday and it’s always difficult to draw conclusions, but the feeling is that we have closed the gap to the top cars. Here, just as at the last race, the harder tyre is a bit difficult, while on the softer one, we’re reasonably good. Tomorrow morning, we’ll work on qualifying, given that today we concentrated on race preparation. All in all, I am happy with how things went today.”

[Man of the race]

F. Alonso 1.21.781
N. Piquet 1.22.349
Yup, nearly six-tenths behind his team mate.

It was a good time because Nelsinho was less than six tenths behind Fernando. Also, good and important work from Nelsinho all along because he obviously was doing some dedicated preparation for race. That is, checking the gravel conditions and training how to get back when being there.

Edited by Man of the race, 08 May 2009 - 16:35.

[Menace]

4 K. RAIKKONEN
NO TIME NO TIME
1 14:06:12
2 1:27.781
3 1:25.528
4 1:25.148
5 1:24.807
6 1:24.671
7 P 1:33.757
8 P 2:14.790
9 8:42.966
10 1:24.365
11 1:24.108
12 1:24.093
13 1:24.885
14 1:27.426
15 1:25.123
16 1:23.875
17 1:27.083
18 1:23.843
19 1:25.579
20 1:23.967
21 1:23.432
22 P 1:31.954
23 P 2:17.870
24 14:27.140
25 1:23.393
26 1:23.212
27 1:28.271
28 1:22.829
29 1:22.994
30 1:22.767
31 1:22.672
32 1:29.566
33 1:22.883
34 1:22.707
35 P 1:32.946
36 9:22.060
37 1:22.599
38 1:22.773
39 1:25.896
40 P 1:38.808

7 F. ALONSO
NO TIME NO TIME
1 14:03:17
2 1:27.146
3 1:30.656
4 1:27.680
5 1:24.275
6 1:24.088
7 P 1:32.954
8 6:32.755
9 1:23.735
10 1:23.685
11 1:23.693
12 1:23.866
13 1:23.928
14 P 1:29.692
15 18:37.488
16 1:24.804
17 1:24.206
18 1:26.966
19 1:24.107
20 1:24.181
21 P 1:29.199
22 9:59.201
23 1:21.875
24 1:23.772
25 1:21.977
26 1:21.921
27 1:22.304
28 P 1:28.134
29 10:13.339
30 1:22.043
31 1:28.810
32 1:21.781
33 1:26.182
34 1:24.515
35 1:21.881
36 P 1:51.430

15 S. VETTEL
NO TIME NO TIME
1 14:01:43
2 1:26.109
3 1:27.433
4 1:28.505
5 1:24.522
6 1:27.476
7 1:24.379
8 1:23.827
9 1:23.469
10 P 1:35.517
11 12:36.645
12 1:22.703
13 1:22.400
14 1:25.991
15 1:27.853
16 1:22.612
17 1:33.482
18 1:22.685
19 1:22.851
20 1:22.576
21 1:26.722
22 1:22.082
23 1:31.395
24 1:22.638
25 P 1:28.866
26 8:54.056
27 1:23.698
28 1:22.959
29 1:22.806
30 1:26.592
31 1:22.915
32 1:22.942
33 1:22.942
34 1:23.063
35 P 1:29.728
36 10:50.327
37 1:22.460
38 1:22.484
39 1:22.646
40 1:30.307
41 1:22.361
42 1:22.657
43 1:31.189
44 1:22.446
45 P 1:48.760

22 J. BUTTON
NO TIME NO TIME
1 14:13:24
2 1:26.423
3 1:23.533
4 1:23.057
5 P 1:32.340
6 11:05.440
7 1:23.268
8 1:26.252
9 1:23.441
10 1:23.158
11 1:23.277
12 P 1:33.312
13 8:36.950
14 1:23.548
15 1:24.406
16 1:22.814
17 1:25.607
18 1:22.804
19 1:27.989
20 1:22.843
21 1:22.565
22 P 1:30.418
23 14:15.987
24 1:25.210
25 1:22.332
26 1:27.324
27 1:22.324
28 P 1:34.433
29 2:09.759
30 1:26.399
31 1:22.338
32 1:25.590
33 1:29.617
34 1:22.052
35 P 1:44.319

Edited by Menace, 08 May 2009 - 16:37.

[MinT]

Buttons times all over the place compared to the others - whats that all about ??

[Menace]

Buttons times all over the place compared to the others - whats that all about ??

Ross Brawn said this during the friday Press Conference:

"We have brought a new package here which seems to be working very well with Rubens but we have got a problem with it with Jenson (Button) and we have to understand what is going on."

[dabrasco]

lol readin the last 3 posts made me smile.... cos after the post with the times, i had the thoughts ..."Buttons laptimes allover the place", just like the 2nd post, and then the 3rdpost explaining it all


anyways its still hard to say how qualifying will go ... a couple of teams do seem to have stepped up. Mclaren will likely struggle....I predict some tweaks in the status quo, nothing too massive

Edited by dabrasco, 08 May 2009 - 19:30.

[Fatality]

Hamiltons comments were very pessimistic, it sounds like hes given up. I wonder when he will ever win a race again?

[jesee]

Hamiltons comments were very pessimistic, it sounds like hes given up. I wonder when he will ever win a race again?

Doesn't sound good from the interview. This years car is a dud for sure. Mclaren are even lucky to be where they are at the moment. If it was by the standards of one Kovasloowalainen, they would be ranking among the force indias of this world or worse

[raiseyourfistfor]

Hamiltons comments were very pessimistic, it sounds like hes given up. I wonder when he will ever win a race again?

LOL I think you're confusing him with raikonen hes the one who doesn't give a **** anymore

[Kelateboy]

Ferrari could and I hope, get a handful of points this weekend. Podium possible?

A podium for Ferrari is possible, but highly unlikely. Looking at Free Practice 1 and 2, and I am sure a lot of people will point out that the time is not an indication of things to come in Qualy and Race, I am still of the opinion that Brawn GP, RBR and Toyota are still faster than Ferrari. I was looking forward to McLaren bringing in their DDD for this race, but that was not the case. Renault seemed to be very fast in Free Practice 2 and they clocked in good times on heavy fuels.

My take so far based on FP1 and 2 is that Brawn, RBR, Toyota are still the teams to beat, followed by Renault, Williams, Ferrari,McLaren, BMW, Torro Rosso and Force India.

-KB

[roadrunner89]

Is there a site which shows the FP3 live?

[femi]

FP3 here

Is there a site which shows the FP3 live?

[rdebourbon]

A podium for Ferrari is possible, but highly unlikely. Looking at Free Practice 1 and 2, and I am sure a lot of people will point out that the time is not an indication of things to come in Qualy and Race, I am still of the opinion that Brawn GP, RBR and Toyota are still faster than Ferrari. I was looking forward to McLaren bringing in their DDD for this race, but that was not the case. Renault seemed to be very fast in Free Practice 2 and they clocked in good times on heavy fuels.

My take so far based on FP1 and 2 is that Brawn, RBR, Toyota are still the teams to beat, followed by Renault, Williams, Ferrari,McLaren, BMW, Torro Rosso and Force India.

-KB

I tend to disagree. The longer stints on the soft tyre, which is meant to be the better race stint were comparable to the RedBull times.. Ferrari like Mclaren did the bulk of their running on the harder tyre, so their times are skewed somewhat.

A podium is on the hgh end of the expectation IMO.

[grunge]

massa`s up 0.4 from 2nd placed barachello.....things definitely look on the up

[RedBaron]

OT: Does anyone know what happened to the atlas chatroom? Do we have to get to it via mIRC now? If so, what's the channel/room/server... Thanks

Oh it's linked top right now... I see I see.

Edited by RedBaron, 09 May 2009 - 09:48.

[PassWind]

massa`s up 0.4 from 2nd placed barachello.....things definitely look on the up

Mmm, what was the fastest winter testing time?

in the 18's

[primer]

Mmm, what was the fastest winter testing time?

in the 18's

Yes but, in winter testing they were cheating.

[fololo]

Mmm, what was the fastest winter testing time?

in the 18's

Yes but there was more Grip.

Look at other Teams they too cant driv 18s.

[sreevishnu]

Mmm, what was the fastest winter testing time?

in the 18's

that was with super softer compounds which B'stone brought to test
this weekend only soft!
More over that was set on last day when the track was run for almost 5 days of testing
and also temp was low back then

[J2NH]

Did Red Bull make a run on the option tire?
I don't think they did and wonder if they are saving them for Q and the race.

[fololo]

Did Red Bull make a run on the option tire?
I don't think they did and wonder if they are saving them for Q and the race.

yes Vettel make a run

[f1rules]

Did Red Bull make a run on the option tire?
I don't think they did and wonder if they are saving them for Q and the race.

i exspect to see both redbull in top 6 without any problems, this is a track made for them, and vettel on 1 or 2

Edited by f1rules, 09 May 2009 - 10:29.

[TickTickBooom]

massa`s up 0.4 from 2nd placed barachello.....things definitely look on the up

On an empty tank and the preferred tyres!

As much as I want to see Kimi do well this year, I do not believe that Ferrari can sustain that pace in quali or the race. But they've definitely improved.

[rdebourbon]

On an empty tank and the preferred tyres!

As much as I want to see Kimi do well this year, I do not believe that Ferrari can sustain that pace in quali or the race. But they've definitely improved.

Yup they have improved, Qualifying will be very interesting. BTW Rubens was also on soft tyres.

[Phucaigh]

Who knows what fuel they were carrying, if they were doing a Q2 or a Q3 simulation...et cetera....

Edited by Phucaigh, 09 May 2009 - 11:21.

[Kelateboy]

On an empty tank and the preferred tyres!

As much as I want to see Kimi do well this year, I do not believe that Ferrari can sustain that pace in quali or the race. But they've definitely improved.

No question whatsoever, Ferrari have definitely improved compared to their 1st four races.

20mins to Qualifying.

-KB

[Madras]

No question whatsoever, Ferrari have definitely improved compared to their 1st four races.

20mins to Qualifying.

-KB

Ferrari have improved but not as much as some think. They're not going to be in the top 5 unless they run very light in Q3.

[grunge]

On an empty tank and the preferred tyres!

As much as I want to see Kimi do well this year, I do not believe that Ferrari can sustain that pace in quali or the race. But they've definitely improved.

nobody has any idea about the fuel loads right now...its all speculation...its a popular that massa was lighter than the brawns but BY WHAT AMOUNT is important...
i think kimi was heavier than his team mate...consistantly dropping 0.3,0.4 secs in S3 all session...but again that could be due to other issues as well(new chasis,weight distribution issues etc)..
ferrari seem to have improved greatly....dyer had come out and asked of fans not to expect a pole but come race day,i wouldnt be surprised if we see two ferraris in the top 6 at the end of qualifying

[salamin]

Ferrari have improved but not as much as some think. They're not going to be in the top 5 unless they run very light in Q3.

yeah we heard it in the F60 thread already

[Kelateboy]

Where is the Qualifying thread?

Kimi missed Q2 by finishing 16th while Massa topped Q1. WTF?

Vettel made his Q1 run on prime tyres. RBR could definitely go faster in Q2.

-KB

[TickTickBooom]

Where is the Qualifying thread?

Kimi missed Q2 by finishing 16th while Massa topped Q1. WTF?

Vettel made his Q1 run on prime tyres. RBR could definitely go faster in Q2.

-KB

Not surprised you can't find it, it's really badly named, as is this thread.

http://forums.autosp...howtopic=108771

[OfficeLinebacker]

Sorry. It was my first official qualifying thread. I forgot what the naming convention is and I worried that calling it 'official' would be hubris.

[TickTickBooom]

Sorry. It was my first official qualifying thread. I forgot what the naming convention is and I worried that calling it 'official' would be hubris.

It's not so much the lack of the 'official', it's the 'Barcelona Grand Prix' part that irks me. We're in Spain. For the Spanish Grand Prix.

[OfficeLinebacker]

It's not so much the lack of the 'official', it's the 'Barcelona Grand Prix' part that irks me. We're in Spain. For the Spanish Grand Prix.

Oh I started the qualifying thread, not this one. I just called it "Barcelona Qualifying," which is not a misnomer. I didn't even notice the misnomer in this thread title.