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#1 petestenning

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 12:19

To help with my database of race entries for 1962 i need some info on any of the folowing Lotus drivers at Mallory Park in 1962.


R. Rose---------------Elite
R.G. Gibbs-----------Elite
W.A. Jones----------Elite
Sid Taylor-----------Elite, Known


J.A OR G.V Gould---------Lotus 11
Jim Morley-----------------Lotus 11,Known
R.Redgrave----------------Lotus 17
M.J.Beard------------------Lotus 17
C.J Hicks-------------------Lotus 11
J Bedford ------------------Lotus 7


Any information would be nice , first names ? and confirmation of the Lotus types .

As was the custom of the day First names were not given in the programmes which makes identification difficult .



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#2 bradbury west

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 15:56

R Rose may well have been Bob Rose, in which case he was in 500KRA.
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 09:27

R Rose may well have been Bob Rose, in which case he was in 500KRA.
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Thanks for that Roger , thus i presume R was for Robert? Also nicknames do play a part in driver identification which makes this project even more difficult .

From 68/69 drivers names were given in full most of the time , but not allways.

Allthough this thread covers 62 , i am also covering 63 to 66 so help there would be great, this is not about f1/2 but mainly sports car drivers from national/club races.


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#4 bradbury west

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 10:08

M Beard was Mike, IIRC. He ran the 17 for many a year till the mid 60s, with my notes for something else showing that he beat Terry Bone, presumably still Ecurie Freeze from Essex(?), and Robin McArthur, both in 1100cc 23s at an NSCC Whit meeting at Silverstone in '63, so still a competitive car, perhaps with an FWB. IIRC he was based in W London, possibly Kensington area. The car was advertised for sale a year or 2 later in Autosport, although some connection with an address in the Chalfonts area rings a bell. I have not had chance to check back.
BTW, I would welcome any assistance in contacting Robin McArthur, he of McArthur Weston racing with a 7 then a 23 to 1965/66, or any general information about him.
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#5 Alan Cox

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 10:31

R Redgrave would be Richard who, IIRC, raced a Merlyn in the mid-sixties.

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 16:02

COLIN Hicks seems to ring a bell and woudn't the W.A. Jones be Bill Jones?

Edited by Sharman, 09 June 2009 - 16:03.


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Posted 10 June 2009 - 04:07

C J Hicks would be Joe, killed at Goodwood - see http://www.motorspor...hp?db=ct&n=2238

Agree W A Jones is presumably Bill who raced a 500 and then briefly the Lister F2, usually propping up the field.

Goulds from memory were John and George, went on to race a Ginetta G4

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 09:07

The Goulds also, reputedly, ran an Eleven GT up until 64
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#9 petestenning

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 10:12

Thank you all for your help i have also now got some 1963 Lotus drivers as you mentioned Terry Bone and Robin McArthur.

So going on to 63 are these

Entrant John T Parker /Driver M Warner Lotus Climax 1594
Entrant Tony Kilburn Racing/Driver R Sparkes Lotus 1098
A.L. Gough Lotus XI LM 1098
A.P Chambers Lotus Elite
N.Surtees ( Norman ?) Lotus Elite



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#10 Sharman

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 10:31

What was Bluebelle's husband named because I think he always made the entries?

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 10:33

Adrian Chambers, he of SCA Freight, one of, if not the, pioneer of very fast daily, same-day deliveries from his E London depot to Paris, with his no-permit-needed Merc vans shuttling onto the ferries. See Frank Gardner and Camaro for SCA Racing. Adrian also raced in FJ/F3 around 63/64 as part of the Euro-circus with the other usual suspects.
Norman Surtees later raced in F100 , 1970/71
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Edited by bradbury west, 11 June 2009 - 10:34.


#12 David McKinney

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 11:32

What was Bluebelle's husband named because I think he always made the entries?

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#13 bradbury west

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 11:42

Alan Gough ran one of the Lotus 11 GTs up to 1965.
ISTR that Terry Bone went over to a possibly works Elva in 65ish. I ought to check some period entries.
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BTW has anyone a photograph of Clive Lacey's Merlyn with a hardtop on running as a GT, not necessarily for posting, just for my records.?

#14 petestenning

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 12:01

And can anyone confirm that it is Norman Surtees the younger brother of John , as i remember Norman Surtees racing bikes .


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#15 bradbury west

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 16:29

I have always believed that to be the case
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#16 Sharman

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 16:56

Thank you David, I would have eventually remembered
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#17 Paul Taylor

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Posted 05 December 2015 - 21:12

Could this be Hicks' fatal crash at Goodwood (Woodcote corner) 1962? 

 

Nothing graphic:

 

http://www.benhuset.dk/amath1.jpg

http://www.benhuset.dk/amath2.jpg

http://www.benhuset.dk/amath3.jpg

http://www.benhuset.dk/amath4.jpg

http://www.benhuset.dk/amath5.jpg

http://www.benhuset.dk/amath6.jpg



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Posted 23 May 2021 - 09:23

Clive Lacey won a Brands Hatch sprint in September 1962, organised by the Sevenoaks & District Motor Club.

A report appears in Autosport, September 28, 1962:

"As is becoming customary in these

events, Clive Lacey put up B.T.D. with

his most beautifully turned-out 997 c.c.

Lotus 7, his runs being models of con-

sistently fast and safe motoring in

2 mins 3.2 secs. and 2 mins 3.0 sec.

Report by RON AMBROSE.

The report also says "C. Saunders was also impressive in his crisp sounding T.V.R. in 2 mins 20.2 secs."
Possibly this #26 car here:

https://www.alamy.co....329986748.html

 

Can anybody give the date of this Sevenoaks & D.M.C. event? Does anybody have a programme?

 

RGDS RLT


Edited by Rupertlt1, 23 May 2021 - 09:28.


#19 Roger Clark

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Posted 23 May 2021 - 09:34

16th September, according to the calendar published in Autosport, 14th. September. 


Edited by Roger Clark, 23 May 2021 - 10:01.


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Posted 09 September 2021 - 18:19

To help with my database of race entries for 1962 i need some info on any of the folowing Lotus drivers at Mallory Park in 1962.


R. Rose---------------Elite
R.G. Gibbs-----------Elite
W.A. Jones----------Elite
Sid Taylor-----------Elite, Known


J.A OR G.V Gould---------Lotus 11
Jim Morley-----------------Lotus 11,Known
R.Redgrave----------------Lotus 17
M.J.Beard------------------Lotus 17
C.J Hicks-------------------Lotus 11
J Bedford ------------------Lotus 7


Any information would be nice , first names ? and confirmation of the Lotus types .

As was the custom of the day First names were not given in the programmes which makes identification difficult .



Pete

Pete,

It just-so happens I've been trying to research John Bedford's Lotus 7, as it is in our shop. We believe its UK reg # was 661 CXT, as that is what it came over here to the US with via Ian Raby in 1964. If you have any photos, it would be beyond words!

 

All the best-

 

Jacques


Edited by Gokart Mozart, 09 September 2021 - 19:49.


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Posted 16 September 2021 - 08:25

RICHARD REDGRAVE

Due to a rear-engined baby arriving, and a potential

wife who would "love it for shopping, darling",

offers his Lotus XVII at really sensible money.

Stage III 1098 Climax (Webers, etc.), de Dion rear

quarters. Ex-works car, 1960 (prepared for Stacey),

and now fully all stations "Go". Engine com-

pletely rebuilt for next season (new crank etc.)

and complete respray. A truly beautiful and very

hairy sports/racer which has been maintained

regardless of cost. Now offered at £600 o.n.o.,

less engine £300. Part exchange considered.

Potters Bar 5259-1.

Autosport, 21 December 1962, Page 864

 

Merlyn-Climax sports-racer for 1963.

 

RGDS RLT


Edited by Rupertlt1, 16 September 2021 - 08:28.


#22 Rupertlt1

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Posted 16 September 2021 - 09:00

Pete,

It just-so happens I've been trying to research John Bedford's Lotus 7, as it is in our shop. We believe its UK reg # was 661 CXT, as that is what it came over here to the US with via Ian Raby in 1964. If you have any photos, it would be beyond words!

 

All the best-

 

Jacques

 

Castle Combe, B.R.S.C.C. Whitsun, Saturday 9 June 1962, 1.84 mile course

J. V. Bedford (Lotus-Ford) ran in the first event, sports cars up to 1,200 c.c.

Ran as high as third, but not in top three at finish.

Autosport, 15 June 1962, Page 874

 

ONE Pair 38 DCOE1 Weber carbs, and inlet

manifolds for 105E, almost new. £30. One

pair Amal carbs., inlet manifolds (complete Speed-

well kit), used 2,000 miles. £15.—J. V. Bedford,

33 Devonshire Place, London, W.1.

Autosport, 3 August 1962, Page 179

 

LOTUS 7, Series 2, just fitted new 88 b.h.p.

(£300) Cosworth F.J. engine. C.r. gearbox.

Full racing trim (and road equipment), many

spares. £575.—Apply J. V. Bedford, Bracken Hill

House, The Woods, Northwood, Middx., or Tel. :

Northwood 23736 after 6 p.m.

Autosport, 7 September 1962, Page 339

 

https://www.racingsp...Bedford-GB.html

 

See also:

 

https://forums.autos...2/#entry9607500

 

RGDS RLT


Edited by Rupertlt1, 16 September 2021 - 09:35.