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[philippe7]

I'm fed up with those endless motorcycle racing mystery pics.... let's look at a real men's sport for a change, soccer ( or football as we say on the continent ) Who do you spot in those two pictures from Jean-François Baldé's private archives, borrowed from the Bike 70 website of my friend Francis Boutet.





Just one hint : I think (.... ) there is a member of this forum in the bottom pic

[Coupe Kawasaki]

Top pic Kenny Roderts and Greg Hansford?


David

[Coupe Kawasaki]

And Johnny Cecotto in black?


David

[Coupe Kawasaki]

2nd pic Kork Ballington and Uncini on the ball?

[picblanc]

Top pic Jon Ekerold in jeans on right, with Gerard Choukron in distance above him?

Bottom pic Jeff Sayle on right with writing on T shirt, JF Balde in white in center?

[Twin Window]

Patrick Pons to the right of Uncini (lower pic)?

[picblanc]

Patrick Pons to the right of Uncini (lower pic)?

If you mean guy in white jeans and top Stuart? I think thats JF Balde, but I have been known to be wrong!!

[fil2.8]

[quote name='picblanc' date='Jun 18 2009, 17:17' post='3700821']
but I have been known to be wrong!!

Surely not Mr Fu

[philippe7]

I say, not too bad folks, you've got most of them I guess - apart from a few froggies :



Indeed Johnnny Cecotto in black ( glory days of "moulding" t-shirts and tight-assed and wide-legged jeans ! ) , Kenny Roberts in the white tracksuit, then with the open shirt my friend Pascal Renaudat ( but I'm not surprised nobody knew him ) , then an unknown, of course Gregg Hansford with the Kawasaki sweat-shirt, Gérard Choukroun in the background and it's Christian Huguet running away with the ball, not Jon Ekerold . Sadly, the last three not with us any more



Renaudat again far left, then I don't know wether it's Uncini or not, but I feel that it may be Alain Terras with the Total t-shirt partly hidden behind, then Jean-François Baldé, Cecotto again in the distance , the small fellow in black is a young Christian Le Liard, Kenny again in the distance, and yes, I think that's Jeff on the right , maybe he'll confirm if/when he sees this.

As to the "where", the picture is captioned as Hockenheim and although I've never been there, the trees seem to make sense. As to the "when", I believe it's '78 , based upon the riders present - I think it's a F 750 race, since most of the french riders pictured ( Renaudat, Le Liard, Choukroun, Huguet ) were not on the Grand Prix circus at those times - and 78 is the only year when Roberts did the whole 750 season . And the German GP was at the ring in 78 . .... I can't be more precise but I just "feel" that it's 78 . But I've also been proved to be wrong ( not as often as Mr Fu, but a few times...)

[philippe7]

Just found the following on the Jack Middelburg website. It does seem to fit :

09-07-1978 Formule 750 Duitsland, Hockenheim

Deelnemers F750 Hockenheim 1978

1. Takazumi Katayama (J) 12. Christian Estrosi (F) 24. Pentti Lehtelä (SF) 36. Gianni Del Carro (I) 49. Didier de Radiguès (B)
2. Kenny Roberts (USA) 14. Boet van Dulmen 25. Christian Le Liard (F) 37. Giuseppe Consalvi (I) 50. Pascal Renaudat (F) 3. Marco Lucchinelli (I) 15. Jean-Francois Baldé (F) 26. Jack Middelburg 39. Adelio Faccioli (I) 51. Ingo Riemer (D) 4. Johnny Cecotto (Ven) 16. Jean-Paul Boinet (F) 27. Hervé Moineau (F) 40. Jacques Fasel (CH) 52. Jeffrey Sayle (AUS)5. Gregg Hansford (AUS) 17. Christian Sarron (F) 28. Jean-Philippe Orban (B) 41. Hervé Guilleux (F) 53. Hermano Sobral (P) 6. Gianfranco Bonera (I) 18. Gérard Choukroun (F) 29. Dominique Pernet (F) 42. Terry Hutton (GB) 54. Franz-Josef Schermer (D) 7. Hubert Rigal (F) 19. Christian Huguet (F) 30. Pierre Soulas (F) 43. Kaj Jensen (DK) 55. Michel Steven (B) 8. Patrick Pons (F) 20. Philippe Coulon (CH) 31. Gerhard Vogt (D) 44. Gérard Melly (F) 56. Alain Terras (F)
9. Michel Rougerie (F) 21. Gilles Husson (F) 32. Steve Baker (USA) 45. Alfio Micheli (I) 57. Jürgen Zeddel (D)
10. Michel Frutschi (CH) 22. Harry Klinzmann (USA) 33. John Woodley (Nzl) 46. Claude Mittaz (CH) 58. Armin Zeh
11. Jack Findlay (AUS) 23. Dave Potter (GB) 34. Karl Zach (A) 47. Pascal Mottier (CH) 59. Mike Trimby (GB)
Alex George (GB) 20. Kimo Kopra (SF) 35. Sadao Asami (J) 48. Werner Nenning (A) ? Rob Bron ? Greg Johnson (AUS) ?

No trace of Franco Uncini though....In '78 he rode Yamaha's for Venemotos in 250 and 350 Grand Prix but I'm not sure he had a 750.....

[Coupe Kawasaki]

Well done Phillipe, that was fun though it's still all a mystery to me as my eyes aren't quite what they were! Even with a magnifying glass


David

[ex Rhodie racer]

Well done Phillipe, that was fun though it's still all a mystery to me as my eyes aren't quite what they were! Even with a magnifying glass


David

If that´s Christian Huguet running after the ball in the first pic, that´s also him with the ball directly above his head in the second, unless someone else was dressed the same.

[philippe7]

If that´s Christian Huguet running after the ball in the first pic, that´s also him with the ball directly above his head in the second, unless someone else was dressed the same.;)

Blimey Very well spotted, Rhodie . I have to admitt that I would not have recognized Christian Huguet if he hadn't been one of the few named by Baldé in the original caption..... and frankly I recognize him even less in the second pic....oh well

[jeff sayle]

Blimey Very well spotted, Rhodie . I have to admitt that I would not have recognized Christian Huguet if he hadn't been one of the few named by Baldé in the original caption..... and frankly I recognize him even less in the second pic....oh well

I have had a close look at this photo and i don't think it is me,looks similar, young, good looking and fast. LOL

Funnily enough i still play soccer,or should say try.

[HEMEYLA]

More soccer, W ? W ? W?

[Rennmax]

More soccer, W ? W ? W?

Jan Kostwinder 2nd from the left side, Cees van Dongen (?) playing the ball

[HEMEYLA]

Jan "schietschijf" Kostwinder and Cees van Dongen

Two (or three, not sure) players are from a well known Dutch racing family !

[picblanc]

Jan "schietschijf" Kostwinder and Cees van Dongen

Two (or three, not sure) players are from a well known Dutch racing family !

The Looystein's (spelling?) may be Ton?

[HEMEYLA]

Not the Looijesteijn brothers (Harry, Co, Peter, George), more back in time, it's 1965.

One "player" from this racing family is the father from the "boys" below.

[philippe7]

The "Van De Goorbergh" family perhaps ?

[HEMEYLA]

Good guess, Piet van den Goorbergh, father from Patrick #16 and Jurgen #18.