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#1201 Tim Murray

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 10:26

What are we looking at? Is this a chain driven rear axle or some kind of gearbox?


Both. Each chain and sprocket set provides a different ratio, and obviously the axle is driven by only one chain set at a time.

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#1202 RogerFrench

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 14:14

What are we looking at? Is this a chain driven rear axle or some kind of gearbox?


Yes, and Yes.

Nash and Godfrey hated cogs,
Built a car with chains and dogs.
And it works, but would it if
They had built it with a diff?

#1203 elansprint72

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 20:26

Both. Each chain and sprocket set provides a different ratio, and obviously the axle is driven by only one chain set at a time.

Or, none! Here we see the Norris with just bottom and top gears, the chains having departed, several laps back, onto the track surface! 

 

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Julian Grimwade still managed a podium finish at Cadwell Park- although The Mountain was a bit of a nail-bighter for him each lap!


Edited by elansprint72, 10 January 2019 - 20:29.


#1204 Duc-Man

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 09:00

Thanks for the input on the Frazer-Nash Norris.

I love those old machines and sometimes I see some technical solution I don't understand on the spot. When I do my homework then and I get it, it's either the 'cartoonlike lightbulp over the head' moment or the famouse ' :eek: What the hell were they thinking? :eek: '.



#1205 elansprint72

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 21:05

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Well… I like it... 
 



#1206 Duc-Man

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 13:04

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Well… I like it... 
 

 

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#1207 elansprint72

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 11:48

Yes  :)



#1208 E1pix

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 01:56

Love it.

908 in reflection?

#1209 elansprint72

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 20:51

Love it.

908 in reflection?

Correct- that's why I like it!  :smoking:



#1210 Odseybod

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 12:18

The marks of a Mark II

 

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#1211 elansprint72

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 20:54

I never understood why they did that to the grille.



#1212 kayemod

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 23:17

I never understood why they did that to the grille.

 

 

You're probably not alone there, but I rather liked that inset grille feature, for me an improvement on the earlier version.



#1213 cheesy poofs

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Posted 23 March 2019 - 15:56

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Pictures from my visit to the Collier Collection in Naples Florida.

#1214 elansprint72

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 22:08

As a 43-year customer of Lotus Cars I rather like the advice here. Only in the last 12 months have I scratched the long-term itch to fit a red steering wheel- damn, what a difference it makes!

 

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#1215 WOT

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 06:15

As a 43-year customer of Lotus Cars I rather like the advice here. Only in the last 12 months have I scratched the long-term itch to fit a red steering wheel- damn, what a difference it makes!

 

 

Another red steering wheel for you....

 

 

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#1216 elansprint72

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 21:03

Another red steering wheel for you....

 

 

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I suppose that I ought to photograph the (totally wrong) red wheel I fitted to my '72 Sprint last year. It is a 12 inch Moto-Lita and, for me, it is perfect

 

Back in '75 I bought a somewhat-tired '68 Elan S4SE (they were just old cars then), it was fitted with what is now known, in Elan circles, as a "Colin Chapman wheel". But... it was not signed and had a plastic-covered rim; it was split along the seam-welds and so I wrapped it with black electrical tape until I could afford a Moto-Lita (of slightly smaller diameter and leather covered). The original wheel went into a convenient builders' skip/dumpster.

 

My next (and current) Elan was/is a '72 Sprint; this came with a wood-rim 13" Moto-Lita wheel; very nice but one needs gloves to use it properly. At a Club Lotus show at Donington I was sitting with Ron Hickman and Peter Cambridge and I mentioned the crap wheel on my first Elan- they both agreed that probably Lotus was out of funds that month and Fred Bushell had been sent out to seek a cheap alternative, in order to get a few road cars out of the door in order to fund the racing team. They both thought that the plastic-rim, non-signed wheels might be one of the most rare types of wheel fitted. Damn!

I persevered with the wood wheel until last year, when I bought the red leather one and fitted it to the existing boss.

 

Ten years ago I rescued a '69 S4SE Elan, which has not been much messed-about with- it has the Holy Grail Chapman "signed" wheel with black leather rim and, although I've only driven/moved this car around my place, I don't like it! I really should sort this car out, but...  :smoking:



#1217 WOT

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 22:52

I suppose that I ought to photograph the (totally wrong) red wheel I fitted to my '72 Sprint last year. It is a 12 inch Moto-Lita and, for me, it is perfect

 

Back in '75 I bought a somewhat-tired '68 Elan S4SE (they were just old cars then), it was fitted with what is now known, in Elan circles, as a "Colin Chapman wheel". But... it was not signed and had a plastic-covered rim; it was split along the seam-welds and so I wrapped it with black electrical tape until I could afford a Moto-Lita (of slightly smaller diameter and leather covered). The original wheel went into a convenient builders' skip/dumpster.

 

My next (and current) Elan was/is a '72 Sprint; this came with a wood-rim 13" Moto-Lita wheel; very nice but one needs gloves to use it properly. At a Club Lotus show at Donington I was sitting with Ron Hickman and Peter Cambridge and I mentioned the crap wheel on my first Elan- they both agreed that probably Lotus was out of funds that month and Fred Bushell had been sent out to seek a cheap alternative, in order to get a few road cars out of the door in order to fund the racing team. They both thought that the plastic-rim, non-signed wheels might be one of the most rare types of wheel fitted. Damn!

I persevered with the wood wheel until last year, when I bought the red leather one and fitted it to the existing boss.

 

Ten years ago I rescued a '69 S4SE Elan, which has not been much messed-about with- it has the Holy Grail Chapman "signed" wheel with black leather rim and, although I've only driven/moved this car around my place, I don't like it! I really should sort this car out, but...  :smoking:

 

 

That's funny.... plastic rim wheel being a rarity....


Edited by WOT, 03 April 2019 - 22:53.


#1218 alansart

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 18:21

McLaren M10 amongst other things :)

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#1219 alansart

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 18:22

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#1220 Ardmore

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 21:46

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#1221 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 28 May 2019 - 03:53

McLaren M10 amongst other things :)

47934472711_2d7756e05c_b.jpgAnthony Taylor - McLaren M10B_4 by Alan Raine, on Flickr

Were quick release steering wheels around in 1970?  Not that I remember.

Though like oh so many I need them these days to easily get in and out of  the cars.

Currently have sharing the one wheel between 2 cars. 13" soft grip 3 bolt boat wheel that was bolted on my Sports Sedan when I bought it in 1982. And it was well used then. I do have the power steering wheel as well,, 15" of boomerang  68 HK Holden wheel that my Supermodified was built with in 68. Which was evidently scrounged from the crash shop scrap bin of where the original owner worked. That one has the tennis racket wrapped rim. Both converted to quick release.

 

Did that M10 have trim originally? I know some race cars did, as did my Supermodified. It still has a few press studs left but never had trim in the 30 years I have known the car


Edited by Lee Nicolle, 28 May 2019 - 03:56.


#1222 yasmin

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Posted 28 May 2019 - 15:34

yes, i believe M10's came with trim....



#1223 alansart

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Posted 28 May 2019 - 18:51

Were quick release steering wheels around in 1970?  Not that I remember.

Though like oh so many I need them these days to easily get in and out of  the cars.

Currently have sharing the one wheel between 2 cars. 13" soft grip 3 bolt boat wheel that was bolted on my Sports Sedan when I bought it in 1982. And it was well used then. I do have the power steering wheel as well,, 15" of boomerang  68 HK Holden wheel that my Supermodified was built with in 68. Which was evidently scrounged from the crash shop scrap bin of where the original owner worked. That one has the tennis racket wrapped rim. Both converted to quick release.

 

Did that M10 have trim originally? I know some race cars did, as did my Supermodified. It still has a few press studs left but never had trim in the 30 years I have known the car

Lee, I think the quick release steering wheel is a modern addition. I believe the original cars had internal trim but would not bet my house on it :)

This M10 is owned by Anthony Taylor.

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Edited by alansart, 28 May 2019 - 18:52.


#1224 Ardmore

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Posted 28 May 2019 - 21:24

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Exhaust on the Begg FM4



#1225 Ardmore

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Posted 30 May 2019 - 09:16

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Trumpets on a McLaren M8 E/F



#1226 alansart

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Posted 30 May 2019 - 11:16

Mark Walker's Thunderbug, or as Mark told me a "Norwich Dragon". He thought it looked like a Thunderbug so stuck it on the front of the car but was advised at a later date about the Norwich connection :)

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#1227 Ardmore

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Posted 01 June 2019 - 09:20

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Close racing.



#1228 Ardmore

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Posted 08 June 2019 - 02:25

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The front suspension of the Cooper T66 better known in New Zealand as the Rothmans Cooper. Photo taken in 1994, before the car was restored.



#1229 SJ Lambert

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Posted 08 June 2019 - 23:30

:wave: My Elfin Mono still has it's original trim!

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#1230 elansprint72

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 19:25

David's name came up in conversation a few days ago and I remembered that I hadn't visited his "details" thread for a while. As Engineers we were both fascinated by "alternative thinking" and, as photographers, we often spent quite a while trying to get shots of things that others might not be able to see! This often caused funny looks from old car owners/mechanics etc.

Here is an example. 

 

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Still miss you, matey.



#1231 elansprint72

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 19:56

That's funny.... plastic rim wheel being a rarity....

Sorry, I kind of dropped the ball on this thread! Indeed- from conversations with Hickman and others (plus what I've read) it seems that, at times, the Lotus road-car production was rather a rather hand to mouth affair. Unpaid invoices led to suppliers refusing to supply (hence the Dellorto carbs, for a short while).  Folks being sent out with cash, to buy a few tins of black paint... or in this case steering wheels!

Here is my totally-wrong, yet utterly-great, red Moto Lita wheel on my Sprint. No gloves required!

 

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#1232 elansprint72

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 21:52

David's name came up in conversation a few days ago and I remembered that I hadn't visited his "details" thread for a while. As Engineers we were both fascinated by "alternative thinking" and, as photographers, we often spent quite a while trying to get shots of things that others might not be able to see! This often caused funny looks from old car owners/mechanics etc.

Here is an example. 

 

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Still miss you, matey.

David and I were wondering why anyone would drill out the cooling fins! Obviously not an Engineer.



#1233 elansprint72

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 21:02

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Great news, the Darracq is back, after grenading it's engine, big-style, at Mallory a few years back.

 

Video shows a cruise thro' town viewed from the Beast of Turin! Only in England!  :smoking:

 

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#1234 GMACKIE

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 22:21

Not quite enough time to work out the firing order...  ;)



#1235 sabrejet

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 04:57

This had me scratching my head for a bit...

 

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#1236 Bonde

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 21:50

Unequal length 'double wishbone' suspension with rubber doughnuts in compression. The stirrup connected to the upper link pulls the rubber doughnuts up against their abutment on the chassis.

 

In case anyone missed it :-)



#1237 10kDA

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 22:04

This had me scratching my head for a bit...

 

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"There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way, and the Hard Army Way..."     Obviously a military vehicle.



#1238 sabrejet

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Posted 07 October 2019 - 05:48

For info it's Jeremy Rivers-Fletcher's Buckler Bellamy Special with 600cc Triumph twin; EDIT: originally Buckler Bultaco or BB, based on a kart frame according to a bit of Googling. It's a very interesting car, which I suspect we'll see more of next year (on the hills). Absence of wheel bearings (wheel bushes instead) was another of its more 'off the wall' features, but maybe that was the norm for karts of the period? It would appear that it's been under restoration for the last 54 years, so it was nice to see it again  ;)


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#1239 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 07 October 2019 - 07:44

Weird and unsafe, just as well it is only 500cc. Rear suspension will drag big time with a flat tyre. And a lot of welding on some fairly critical places. eg the driveshaft flange. And rising rate suspension, the harder the rubber cones are compressed the harder the wheel rate. And I cannot see a shocker of any sort. Plus tie rod ends on suspension components? I hope there is a decent piece of steel with taper inside that upright.

I have had tie rod ends as well as the pickup points fail on a beam front axle on speedway. And as top links on a leaf spring rear on a road race car. The ball is a LONG way out from the pickup point and it levers the pickup point. And in realty they are not strong enough. The [substansial] load for steering is still not the load for that job.

But what is it seems a cable operated brake with a hydraulic line to the same lever?



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#1240 bradbury west

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Posted 07 October 2019 - 07:53

For me, as a known non engineer...., I find it a fascinating variation on a theme/solution to a design need. I have records of similar concepts in a different plane, so I welcome the photograph. I noticed the odd location of the tie rod, wheel movement must be a bit random when moving. The sprocket protection looks robust, weight notwithstanding, and the angle of the drive shaft at rest looks interesting. It looks as if it would need quite a lot of droop to see it horizontal. Are there any more photographs?.
I wonder if they are solid but two piece items or a hollow one piece, rather like the old Aeon additional rubber bump stop component, often used for loaded vehicles and caravans. Spring rate must be a guesstimate.
To me, this is what paddock shots are all about. Many thanks for posting.
Roger Lund

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#1241 sabrejet

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Posted 07 October 2019 - 15:54

Hope these will be of interest:

 

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#1242 kayemod

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Posted 07 October 2019 - 17:09

Thanks, that's really interesting.



#1243 Dale Harvey

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Posted 07 October 2019 - 20:32

I would guess that the cable  on the rear brake would be for a handbrake. To be used on uphill or downhill start lines.

Dale.



#1244 bradbury west

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Posted 07 October 2019 - 21:31

A fascinating set of photographs . Many thanks for posting them. The installation looks a lot clearer now. I must leave it to others to do the technical appraisal.
Roger Lund.

#1245 elansprint72

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Posted 07 October 2019 - 21:45

Well, as Ron Hickman would have said; that's one way to go but... 



#1246 Bonde

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 16:37

Weird and unsafe, just as well it is only 500cc. Rear suspension will drag big time with a flat tyre. And a lot of welding on some fairly critical places. eg the driveshaft flange. And rising rate suspension, the harder the rubber cones are compressed the harder the wheel rate. And I cannot see a shocker of any sort. Plus tie rod ends on suspension components? I hope there is a decent piece of steel with taper inside that upright.

I have had tie rod ends as well as the pickup points fail on a beam front axle on speedway. And as top links on a leaf spring rear on a road race car. The ball is a LONG way out from the pickup point and it levers the pickup point. And in realty they are not strong enough. The [substansial] load for steering is still not the load for that job.

But what is it seems a cable operated brake with a hydraulic line to the same lever?

 

Dragging rear uprights with flat tyres seems to have been quite common right into the 1980s!

 

I suppose the only reason he got away with using track rod balls and ball posts is the light weight of the car and a relative lack of grip.

 

The lower link is loaded heavily in bending and must flex, compounding the strange kinematics. It probably has a lot of bump steer!

 

I suppose he relied on the hysteresis of the rubber and all the sticktion in the bushings and joints (the radius rod seems to articulate in a rubber bushings) for damping... :well:



#1247 alansart

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Posted Yesterday, 15:04

1950 Cadillac Series 61 - Le Monstre 3

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#1248 alansart

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Posted Yesterday, 15:07

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