Jump to content


Photo

Mercedes-Benz W154 Silver Arrow at Lime Rock


  • Please log in to reply
28 replies to this topic

#1 pppf1

pppf1
  • Member

  • 32 posts
  • Joined: February 05

Posted 02 September 2009 - 20:19

Enjoy the sights and sounds of the Silver Arrow.

LRP Video

Advertisement

#2 Hans Etzrodt

Hans Etzrodt
  • Member

  • 3,188 posts
  • Joined: July 00

Posted 03 September 2009 - 05:52

:up:

#3 Duc-Man

Duc-Man
  • Member

  • 1,394 posts
  • Joined: November 08

Posted 03 September 2009 - 07:57

I'd like to se the drivers face when he takes his helmet off...either he has that big old grin or he's scared s***less.

#4 Tony Matthews

Tony Matthews
  • Member

  • 17,519 posts
  • Joined: September 08

Posted 03 September 2009 - 17:01

Enjoy the sights and sounds of the Silver Arrow.

LRP Video

Thanks for posting that!

#5 pppf1

pppf1
  • Member

  • 32 posts
  • Joined: February 05

Posted 03 September 2009 - 21:56

Thanks for posting that!

This should be a great weekend at Lime Rock.

Edited by pppf1, 03 September 2009 - 21:56.


#6 MichaelJP

MichaelJP
  • Member

  • 865 posts
  • Joined: June 01

Posted 04 September 2009 - 08:13

Very evocative - amazingly aggressive sharp-edged sound!

Also made me wonder about the comments about changing the 12 warm-up spark plugs for running plugs. You'd have thought unless several people did that at once the engine would have cooled down again by the time you'd got them all swapped:)


#7 Paul Parker

Paul Parker
  • Member

  • 2,198 posts
  • Joined: October 02

Posted 04 September 2009 - 08:29

I'm just getting a blank screen with DONE at the bottom, followed by ERROR ON PAGE.

#8 Tony Matthews

Tony Matthews
  • Member

  • 17,519 posts
  • Joined: September 08

Posted 04 September 2009 - 08:48

Also made me wonder about the comments about changing the 12 warm-up spark plugs for running plugs. You'd have thought unless several people did that at once the engine would have cooled down again by the time you'd got them all swapped:)

It takes a lot longer than that for a big, hot engine to cool down!

#9 Simon Thomas

Simon Thomas
  • Member

  • 126 posts
  • Joined: May 09

Posted 04 September 2009 - 08:58

It takes a lot longer than that for a big, hot engine to cool down!


Is this the car the late Terry Cohn thought he had bought? If so does that mean all the W154s are accounted for now?
Simon Thomas

#10 Doug Nye

Doug Nye
  • Member

  • 11,937 posts
  • Joined: February 02

Posted 04 September 2009 - 09:18

This is the Collier Collection car - the last W154 made pre-war, chassis '15' driven by Manfred von Brauchitsch in the Belgrade GP 70 years ago yesterday, on the day Great Britain and France (belatedly) declared war upon Nazi Germany. The car is fitted today with the ultimate-spec engine and so reflects the absolute high-tide of Daimler-Benz racing practise through the 1930s... It is one of the two W154s acquired immediately postwar by Joska Roman of Cluj, Rumania, and it is the car he rolled in the local hill-climb. Damage was largely confined to the tail and tail tank - which had ignited. See here: http://forums.autosp...w...&hl=Collier

DCN

Edited by Doug Nye, 04 September 2009 - 09:28.


#11 ZOOOM

ZOOOM
  • Member

  • 522 posts
  • Joined: April 08

Posted 04 September 2009 - 14:50

Forgive me if I missed it...
Who was driving at Lime Rock and when did it take place?
ZOOOM

#12 pppf1

pppf1
  • Member

  • 32 posts
  • Joined: February 05

Posted 04 September 2009 - 16:48

Forgive me if I missed it...
Who was driving at Lime Rock and when did it take place?
ZOOOM

Lime Rock Park Vintage Festival organizer Murray Smith was the driver and it took place on Sept. 1

#13 Doug Nye

Doug Nye
  • Member

  • 11,937 posts
  • Joined: February 02

Posted 04 September 2009 - 18:38

Lime Rock Park Vintage Festival organizer Murray Smith was the driver and it took place on Sept. 1


Note that there are two different drivers featured in the video. One is Murray The Legend and the other - with the slightly more discreet overalls and helmet design (ahem) - is Gerd Straubel (? my memory???) chief mechanic from the Mercedes-Benz Museum, helping to give the Collier crew experience of running the car.

DCN

Edited by Doug Nye, 04 September 2009 - 18:39.


#14 bradbury west

bradbury west
  • Member

  • 6,143 posts
  • Joined: June 02

Posted 04 September 2009 - 21:24

The sad looking old lady which I saw in Prague a few years ago. The Museum itself I found excellent, a point which I have mentioned in other threads. Mbikes, trains planes and cars and other tech stuff abound there.
Posted Image
Click on the photo for a larger view.
Photo copyright Roger Lund
Roger Lund

#15 scags

scags
  • Member

  • 405 posts
  • Joined: February 03

Posted 08 September 2009 - 10:26

We were at Lime Rock this weekend- they did a 5 lap demonstration with just the Mercedes on track, both Saturday and Monday. The car sounded great, echoing off the hills around the track.

#16 Odseybod

Odseybod
  • Member

  • 1,874 posts
  • Joined: January 08

Posted 08 September 2009 - 11:53

The sad looking old lady which I saw in Prague a few years ago. The Museum itself I found excellent, a point which I have mentioned in other threads. Mbikes, trains planes and cars and other tech stuff abound there.
Posted Image
Click on the photo for a larger view.
Photo copyright Roger Lund
Roger Lund


Wow, thanks for posting that Roger - only just clicked that it's THAT car. We saw it in 1984, when it seemed to be a right-of-passage for all Prague school kids to sit in it (mind you, can't say I would have resisted the temptation in their place, especially as no one in authority felt obliged to discourage them - German wartime things were not much liked at the time in Czecho). But as you say, a good museum and well worth a visit, especially the aviation section - though in those days, the wings of the dangling aircraft were only dusted as far as the caretaker's broom would reach from the adjacent gallery.

#17 SEdward

SEdward
  • Member

  • 840 posts
  • Joined: January 04

Posted 08 September 2009 - 11:55

With all due respect to the two gentlemen at the wheel, I think that seeing and hearing this car being driven in anger would be an unforgettable experience, but one that is never likely to happen.

Nevertheless, the videos are fantastic.

Edward

#18 taylov

taylov
  • Member

  • 624 posts
  • Joined: February 05

Posted 08 September 2009 - 12:28

With all due respect to the two gentlemen at the wheel, I think that seeing and hearing this car being driven in anger would be an unforgettable experience, but one that is never likely to happen.

Edward


Those on the Forum in their sixties and beyond may recall one Peter Collins driving a W154 with some gusto at the Richard Seaman Memorial races at Oulton Park in 1958.

More recently (20+ years ago) a W154 and Auto Union D type were driven round Silverstone at some pace by John Surtees and AN Other - can't remember who.

Tony

#19 Gary C

Gary C
  • Member

  • 5,599 posts
  • Joined: January 01

Posted 08 September 2009 - 12:29

who can forget the 'Search For The Silver Arrow' tv programme. Rivetting (lol).

Advertisement

#20 Paul Taylor

Paul Taylor
  • Member

  • 1,321 posts
  • Joined: March 02

Posted 08 September 2009 - 12:39

More recently (20+ years ago) a W154 and Auto Union D type were driven round Silverstone at some pace by John Surtees and AN Other - can't remember who.


Could you mean this? John Surtees driving a W196 around Brands Hatch in 1994 (at some speed). There are two other cars there, one looks like a BMW 328 and there isn't really a clear shot of the third. Could be a Vanwall.


EDIT: Or maybe you mean this...Surtees driving the Auto Union around in Silverstone in 1992 or 1993:

Edited by Paul Taylor, 08 September 2009 - 12:40.


#21 taylov

taylov
  • Member

  • 624 posts
  • Joined: February 05

Posted 08 September 2009 - 16:59

Could you mean this? John Surtees driving a W196 around Brands Hatch in 1994 (at some speed). There are two other cars there, one looks like a BMW 328 and there isn't really a clear shot of the third. Could be a Vanwall.


EDIT: Or maybe you mean this...Surtees driving the Auto Union around in Silverstone in 1992 or 1993:


Definitely Silverstone not Brands - on the first day of a Coys or similar meeting - both the AU and W154 circulating together - possibly around 1990 with the Merc powersliding through Copse with a overpowering smell of bootpolish. Tony

#22 Gary C

Gary C
  • Member

  • 5,599 posts
  • Joined: January 01

Posted 08 September 2009 - 18:26

Neil Corner ?

#23 RogerFrench

RogerFrench
  • Member

  • 688 posts
  • Joined: February 08

Posted 08 September 2009 - 18:32

Neil Corner ?

W125?

#24 barrykm

barrykm
  • Member

  • 851 posts
  • Joined: February 02

Posted 08 September 2009 - 18:36

I'm just getting a blank screen with DONE at the bottom, followed by ERROR ON PAGE.


Ditto - although the 'Error on Page' message has yet to appear.

How do we remedy this?


#25 pppf1

pppf1
  • Member

  • 32 posts
  • Joined: February 05

Posted 08 September 2009 - 18:51

Ditto - although the 'Error on Page' message has yet to appear.

How do we remedy this?

I just tried the link again and it was fine. It is a quicktime .mov file so you may have to download quicktime from apple.com

#26 taylov

taylov
  • Member

  • 624 posts
  • Joined: February 05

Posted 08 September 2009 - 20:17

W125?


No. Sadly, I've never seen a 1937 W125 run. It was a 1939 GP car that I saw run with a D type AU at Silverstone 20 or so years ago. Somewhere I have the photos that I took that day but 3 house moves in the meantime....

I did find a thumbnail image of the event (confirming it was a '39 Merc) on a Google image search today but it links to a 5 year old thread on this forum and the photos do not upload any more. One of the downsides of this technology.

Tony

#27 RogerFrench

RogerFrench
  • Member

  • 688 posts
  • Joined: February 08

Posted 09 September 2009 - 02:30

No. Sadly, I've never seen a 1937 W125 run. It was a 1939 GP car that I saw run with a D type AU at Silverstone 20 or so years ago. Somewhere I have the photos that I took that day but 3 house moves in the meantime....

I did find a thumbnail image of the event (confirming it was a '39 Merc) on a Google image search today but it links to a 5 year old thread on this forum and the photos do not upload any more. One of the downsides of this technology.

Tony


Sorry, I was replying to the Neil Corner suggestion!


#28 barrykm

barrykm
  • Member

  • 851 posts
  • Joined: February 02

Posted 09 September 2009 - 04:10

I just tried the link again and it was fine. It is a quicktime .mov file so you may have to download quicktime from apple.com

Thanks


#29 onelung

onelung
  • Member

  • 546 posts
  • Joined: November 07

Posted 09 September 2009 - 06:03

The sound recording on that clip is excellent: very true to the real thing (yes, I know there's no substitute for that - read on...)

Feb 1982 and we're at Sandown for the "Tribute to the Champions". IIRC it was STINKING hot. Good old Oz in summertime, eh?

The Bear gets to put his posterior in the W154 seat and thrill the crowd (and, I seem to recall, himself too, as I think he wasn't overly impressed by its braking:going ratio).
We were behind the grandstand as he pulled in there after his run. As he gave the motor a couple of cleanse-the-cylinders blips, all those around instinctively - and protectively - did a semi-cringe flinch with quick bringing of fingers to ears. It was LOUD! And B****Y MARVELLOUS! Never, ever to be forgotten. And yes... the Bear had a smile a mile wide. :up: