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[Italiano Tifoso]

Just read an article in Autosport where Rubens criticises Flavio for his comments on Piquets personal life... What comments is he referring to as i have not seen anything on this front.

Anyone know where there is info on these comments from Flavio?

[noikeee]

He said something about Piquet having "a strange relationship with an old man he used to live with" (paraphrased).

Basically his defence was to call Piquet gay.

[Anomnader]

You'll them in the main thread, Flav is making insinuations about Nelsons sexuality.

[Atreiu]

Briatore is such a class act.

[cheapracer]

He said something about Piquet having "a strange relationship with an old man he used to live with" .

So he's upset that Piquet stole his lover?

[noikeee]

he Nelson, not he Flavio

[brunopascal]

Just read an article in Autosport where Rubens criticises Flavio for his comments on Piquets personal life... What comments is he referring to as i have not seen anything on this front.

Anyone know where there is info on these comments from Flavio?

Check the related stories on the right of the article you're reading, I do that when I want to catch up on smth. You'll find the Flav comments-story there.

[Italiano Tifoso]

Interesting... Bernie should be all over this. Get him in an F1 seat now, get a race staged in San Fran and re launch F1 into the States!

For the record, i wouldn't be surprised if he was gay, it's only a matter of time before there is a gay F1 driver on the grid, probably already been a few. Law of averages will dictate this.

Edited by Italiano Tifoso, 13 September 2009 - 05:38.

[slideways]

"We know Nelson's [Sr] story, he's always run down everyone," explained Briatore at Monza. "Nelson drove for me and... Nelson is blackmailing, and that's what we have brought.

"It's very tough for Renault to have had these put downs from Nelsinho and from Piquet Sr, but then we know Piquet Sr. He has always denigrated everyone - starting from [Ayrton] Senna [being gay], to Mansell's wife, to everyone. That's what Piquet Sr has always done. I know him well because he raced for us, I know Sr better than Jr."

"Nelsinho used to live with this gentleman: the nature of their relationship is unknown. His father was very worried about the relationship Nelsinho used to have with this 50-year-old man. They used to live together, and his father asked me to intervene.

"I made this gentleman not come to races anymore, and I made Nelsinho move from Oxford to London in a building where I live, in order to keep him under control.

I particularly like the 'I stopped him from living with this 50-year-old man and made him come live with this 50-year-old man' bit.

Edited by slideways, 13 September 2009 - 01:45.

[David M. Kane]

Wait a minute does this mean Flav is no longer bisexual?

[cheapracer]

Wait a minute does this mean Flav is no longer bisexual?

I'm sure with his looks and money he can only be buy sexual.

he Nelson, not he Flavio

Yeah thanks mate for rolling with the humour in this so serious thread

Edited by cheapracer, 13 September 2009 - 01:56.

[Radoye]

Didn't Nelson's mother say that the "older gentleman" in question was actually a family friend who offered Nelson a place to stay while in London?

[noikeee]

Yeah thanks mate for rolling with the humour in this so serious thread

figured you'd be joking but you never know in this place

[royalblue0]

I'm sure with his looks and money he can only be buy sexual.

[molive]

Here in Brasilia (where Sr lives) Nelsinho is know to be a "pegador" (meaning, a guy that gets lots of chicks). But, it could be just an urban legend.

Tbh, it would't surprise me if he was gay or bi.

[beckenlima]

Just read an article in Autosport where Rubens criticises Flavio for his comments on Piquets personal life... What comments is he referring to as i have not seen anything on this front.

Anyone know where there is info on these comments from Flavio?

Basicaly, the history is that Nelson has a friend named Marc Cavezzale, who helped him in some stages of his career. He also followed Nelson in some races last year. The point is that Nelson Senior didn’t look the man with good eyes. He thought that, in a way, the man interfered in Nelsinho´s focus on race weekend and in Nelson´s career planning in general.

And, as Flavio said in the interview, Piquet Senior has asked Flavio to forbid Marc entrance in Renault´s garage and also to move Nelson´s place from Chelsea to London, next Flavio own home.

Flavio suggested this history in Italian, but telling it with “some colors” to the Brazilian press yesterday. HERE is the link (second audio file) with Flavio telling the history:

http://blogs.jovempa...m-pan-registra/


http://f1around.wordpress.com

[BRK]

Flavio's just being Flavio,albeit now cornered and angry. Good on Rubens for lashing out at these remarks.

[Jimisgod]

Flavio is just that classy hopefully he'll lose some serious money over this.

[Gypsy]

I'm sure with his looks and money he can only be buy sexual.

Here in Brasilia (where Sr lives) Nelsinho is know to be a "pegador" (meaning, a guy that gets lots of chicks). But, it could be just an urban legend.

Tbh, it would't surprise me if he was gay or bi.

Does it really matter? Flav's attitude sickens me. What the hell has Piquet's sexuality got to do with the allegations on the table?

Flavio is just that classy hopefully he'll lose some serious money over this.

Hopefully a lot more than that, too.

[jiber172r]

Both Nelsinho adn Falvio are morons for this latest fiasco. This should not have been brought up aa year later after the fact. It's only because Nelsinho has sour grapes about his departure from Ranault. Flavio is just being Flavio acting bitter and vengeful. All in all, nothing good will come from this latest scandal, that I can guarantee.

[Demo.]

Both Nelsinho adn Falvio are morons for this latest fiasco. This should not have been brought up aa year later after the fact. It's only because Nelsinho has sour grapes about his departure from Ranault. Flavio is just being Flavio acting bitter and vengeful. All in all, nothing good will come from this latest scandal, that I can guarantee.

wrong if it is proved then some cheats will be gone from F1 forever i hope.
Does anyone really want a person of the calibre of flav the chav in F1.
I hope Flavs case against Piquet flops and Piquet sues Flav for all he has.
Both are fools but only one is being a disgusting moronic low down *******.
Renault must clearly see how much damadge Flav is doing to them with such outbursts.

Edited by Demo., 13 September 2009 - 04:18.

[Spa One]

With all other issues aside, do you think it coulb be said that Piquet Sr has paradoxically made Jnr's career, and broken it

[Fiorentina 1]

Briatore is an idiot, because now the Piquet's could sue him for defamation of character. And, there no disputing this, unlike the 'blackmail' case.

[paddock spy]

ITALIAN TIFOSO
title
where did the info appear from?
Reffer to corriere dello sport of 2 days ago online edition,this is where i got my info for my thread Briatore piquet below
paddock spy

Edited by paddock spy, 13 September 2009 - 05:07.

[lokiman]

I honestly can't wait to see the back of Briatore. What a classless, sleazy piece of dirt he is. His insinuations regarding Piquet's sexuality are not only completely irrelevant, but extremely offensive. I couldn't care less if Piquet is gay (though I have no reason to believe that he is), but it's obvious that Briatore's throwing this out into the public domain now because he believes that the public will react negatively to it. Briatore hasn't just scraped the bottom of the barrel, he's digging into the ground under the barrel. What a disgusting man.

Edited by lokiman, 13 September 2009 - 06:56.

[paddock spy]

Italian Tifoso

the article in corriere dello sport online herebelow

http://www.corriered.../F...ricattato»

paddock spy

[Gilles12]

...Piquet Senior has asked Flavio to forbid Marc's entrance...

LOL!

Quite

[glorius&victorius]

http://en-gb.faceboo...zale/1134957400


this man just seems to be a good friend of the Piquets... have a look at his friends list... Nelson Angelo is also in it...

Edited by glorius&victorius, 13 September 2009 - 06:48.

[Italiano Tifoso]

Italian Tifoso

the article in corriere dello sport online herebelow

http://www.corriered.../F...ricattato»

paddock spy

Thanks Paddock Spy

[pacwest]

Once Flavio is in your past you are in for it. His ex girlfriends etc have felt his sting.

Flav is a great guy to have as a friend and a horrible person to have as an enemy. NPjr is feeling the sting now.

[VoidNT]

Basicaly, the history is that Nelson has a friend named Marc Cavezzale, who helped him in some stages of his career.

I always thought Piquet Senior is working on his son's career. Why would Nelsinho suddenly need 'help' from the outside?

[Seb S.]

This story is a Dallas soap...

[glorius&victorius]

I always thought Piquet Senior is working on his son's career. Why would Nelsinho suddenly need 'help' from the outside?

because Sr. never had time for his kids... he spends too much time chasing and fathering children

[cheapracer]

Once Flavio is in your past you are in for it. His ex girlfriends etc have felt his sting.

So your saying he's a little prick?

[TecnoRacing]

Good on Rubens for lashing out at these remarks.

I love how Rubens - in his usual, passive agressive, whiny style - has to, somehow, work Michael into the conversion.

Anyway...What everyone seems to agree on, Rubens included, is that Nelson Sr. is a pretty despicable human being...

His insinuations regarding Piquet's sexuality are not only completely irrelevant, but extremely offensive.

Yes all very much in vein of Piquet Sr.

[ensign14]

For the record, i wouldn't be surprised if he was gay, it's only a matter of time before there is a gay F1 driver on the grid, probably already been a few. Law of averages will dictate this.

Mike Beuttler, from the early 1970s. There was also John Riseley-Pritchard, although Nelsinho would have stopped being his type in about 1990.

And Nelson admitted he lived with a man in his fifties last year. Doesn't seem to be that controversial.

Edited by ensign14, 13 September 2009 - 07:55.

[The Ragged Edge]

Briatore is an idiot, because now the Piquet's could sue him for defamation of character. And, there no disputing this, unlike the 'blackmail' case.

Not every country has defamation and libel laws, like we do in England or the U.S. Over here if you have the money you can start libel proceedings in a heart beat. Other countries it takes their own version of the CPS to determin whether someone has ben libeled.

[Gilles12]

Is being accused of being gay defamation of character?

It's not like accusing Nelson of being a rapist is it?

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Defamation

is being called gay harmful to one's image?

[Jay]

With all other issues aside, do you think it coulb be said that Piquet Sr has paradoxically made Jnr's career, and broken it

Yes...

LOL!

Quite

Touche!

J

[ensign14]

Is being accused of being gay defamation of character?

It's a very interesting point. There is no actual definition of defamation. It's generally held to be something that would cause the "victim" to be held in lower esteem in the minds of right-thinking people. No right-thinking person would think any less of someone because they were gay, so probably not.

However, calling a heterosexual person gay - as would calling a homosexual person straight - could be defamatory by innuendo. I.e. they are/have been lying about their personal relationships. So, it's not the actual term that would be defamatory, but the imputation of lying.

This is why Jason Donovan got a few grand of The Face magazine when it alleged he was gay.

[Gypsy]

Is being accused of being gay defamation of character?

It's not like accusing Nelson of being a rapist is it?

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Defamation

is being called gay harmful to one's image?

Jason Donovan successfully sued The Face for saying he was gay.

Edit: Eh. Completely missed the fact there was a page 2. Kudos ensign.

Edited by Gypsy, 13 September 2009 - 09:16.

[OSX]

This story is a Dallas soap...

Only with less class.

[taran]

Yes all very much in vein of Piquet Sr.

I think a lot of people misunderstand Nelson Piquet Sr. For starters, he was hugely popular at Brabham and even Patrick Head has said they tried to resign him in the early 1990s. You can't be a despiccable person and still be popular and/or wanted.

Nelson was never a "I am faster than him so I'll do my talking on the track" kinda guy, in fact very few of F1's greats have had that personality. Probably Mansell and Gilles Villeneuve, maybe Jacques Villeneuve too, were like that. The others all liked to mess with the minds of their opponents.

Some of Piquet's statements were indeed offensive but they were carefully calculated to be so and unsettle the minds of his rivals.

Ayrton Senna was very proud of his macho image and as a young Brazilian male at the time, extremely sensitive to any allegation that he might be gay....So Nelson calling him gay because he divorced his wife and lived together with other men in England was exactly the thing to get him riled up.

The same with Mansell's "ugly" wife. Mansell was being supported Hamilton style at Williams while Piquet was indeed the #1 driver as per his contract. So to unsettle Mansell, Piquet, who had numerous beautiful women over the years, attacked Mansell's close relationship with his wife. At that time, Mansell was a popular star so there might well have been possible tensions in the relationship. Mansell wouldn't have been the first man to dump his wife for a trophy wife after becoming successful so maybe his wife was a bit uncertain.

Unsporting? Tell that to Lauda, Prost, Senna, Schumacher et al who have done similar mind****s in the past....

[mursuka80]

What if there was a gay driver in F1? Would they be allowed to participate in races in places like Bahrain,Malaysia and Singapore where homosexuality is criminal offense?

[krapmeister]

Didn't Nelson's mother say that the "older gentleman" in question was actually a family friend who offered Nelson a place to stay while in London?

Ah, the ol' 'family friend' story eh...

[MegaManson]

What if there was a gay driver in F1? Would they be allowed to participate in races in places like Bahrain,Malaysia and Singapore where homosexuality is criminal offense?

Drinking alcohol is a criminal offence in those countries I don't see Kimi in jail

[taran]

What if there was a gay driver in F1? Would they be allowed to participate in races in places like Bahrain,Malaysia and Singapore where homosexuality is criminal offense?

Enforcement is always a bit of a 'hit or miss' thing in these issues but as long as the gay driver wasn't too overt about having sex in the country, it would most likely slide with the locals. The team managers would be up in arms however as it is well known that sex before the race is bad for the performance of the driver....

[as65p]

Of course it's utterly insignificant if he's gay or not, and obviously Flavio is a prick (wow, surprise!) for stomping that low.

Still it's mildly amusing to see something which Senior mis-used in his time to unsettle others now coming back at him.

[MichaelPM]

One good turn deserves another.
Tit for tat.