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[Coupe Kawasaki]

Over the years there have been lots of riders who were almost unbeatable on certain circuits yet didn't seem to do it anywhere else for whatever reason, There must have been loads. I suppose most will be club/national level riders. I remember Griff Roberts being like this at Mallory. Any pics of Griff anyone?Steve Bevington too, same circuit?



David

[gmwzorro]

Over the years there have been lots of riders who were almost unbeatable on certain circuits yet didn't seem to do it anywhere else for whatever reason, There must have been loads. I suppose most will be club/national level riders. I remember Griff Roberts being like this at Mallory. Any pics of Griff anyone?Steve Bevington too, same circuit?



David

Keith Sanderson, Colin Breeze at Mallory . Also Derek Chatterton at Cadwell and Derek Huxley at Oulton although
both Dereks were good on other circuits as well. Might have a photo of Steve Bevington somewhere.
Gary

[chrisb]

Over the years there have been lots of riders who were almost unbeatable on certain circuits yet didn't seem to do it anywhere else for whatever reason, There must have been loads. I suppose most will be club/national level riders. I remember Griff Roberts being like this at Mallory. Any pics of Griff anyone?Steve Bevington too, same circuit?



David

John Newbold at Mallory, Phil and Ron H at Cadwell, Rex Butcher at the Palace, The Mint of course at Brands. Tho all of thes were not exacly slow anywhere. Good topic, Coupe.

[exclubracer]

Over the years there have been lots of riders who were almost unbeatable on certain circuits yet didn't seem to do it anywhere else for whatever reason, There must have been loads. I suppose most will be club/national level riders. I remember Griff Roberts being like this at Mallory. Any pics of Griff anyone?Steve Bevington too, same circuit?



David

Hi David

IIRC Griff Roberts still holds the record for the highest number of wins at Mallory, 350+, he was no slouch either at Darley and Cadwell.

[Coupe Kawasaki]

Keith Sanderson, Colin Breeze at Mallory . Also Derek Chatterton at Cadwell and Derek Huxley at Oulton although
both Dereks were good on other circuits as well. Might have a photo of Steve Bevington somewhere.
Gary

Colin Breeze on his GS1000 engined Atom was great. I think he had a Ford Granada and a trailer.Bits of duck tape everywhere holding it together I may have picked Keith Sanderson out of the gravel marshalling at Coppice on a GSXR1100. First rider to crash one in the UK I reckon. 'Course it might not have been him or was it? I can never make my mind up or can I?


David

[Coupe Kawasaki]

John Newbold at Mallory, Phil and Ron H at Cadwell, Rex Butcher at the Palace, The Mint of course at Brands. Tho all of thes were not exacly slow anywhere. Good topic, Coupe.

HI Mick


I remember Griff on the CB900 taking to the grass on the Gerrards exit, not shutting off much on the grass half the straight, coming back and winning the race.Great rider to watch always.


David

[exclubracer]

HI Mick


I remember Griff on the CB900 taking to the grass on the Gerrards exit, not shutting off much on the grass half the straight, coming back and winning the race.Great rider to watch always.


David

Yes he was always quick, I remember last seeing him in the early 90's on a GSXR1100 riding in the 1300cc open class. He once passed me in practice on the long straight at Darley, I was flat out on my 350 and when he came past I thought I'd stopped!! I also recall him riding a TR or TD Yam a few years prior to that.

[Coupe Kawasaki]

Yes he was always quick, I remember last seeing him in the early 90's on a GSXR1100 riding in the 1300cc open class. He once passed me in practice on the long straight at Darley, I was flat out on my 350 and when he came past I thought I'd stopped!! I also recall him riding a TR or TD Yam a few years prior to that.

I forget who his team mate was then Mick, John Newbold Trophy and Griff crashed in a heat, mangled his GSXR and himself, borrowed team mate's bike and may have won or was third, broke something in his hand or arm and still did the biz

David

[Russell Burrows]

Did Somebody mention the Palace?

[exclubracer]

I forget who his team mate was then Mick, John Newbold Trophy and Griff crashed in a heat, mangled his GSXR and himself, borrowed team mate's bike and may have won or was third, broke something in his hand or arm and still did the biz

David

Does the name Two Wheeled Services ring any bells? Griff hailed from Tamworth I think and they were local to there. His only team mate I can remember was called David....erm ? and IIRC he wrecked his elbow in an accident at, I think, Mallory. The memory's going a bit dim tha' knows

Another circuit specialist I remember from around the same time was Keith Lewis who was always quick at Darley and Cadwell. Anyone remember him?

[exclubracer]

Did Somebody mention the Palace?

Hi Russell

No. 7 looks like Rod Scivyer.

[Arthur]

Did Somebody mention the Palace?

Joe Dunphy I allways thought of as the master of Palace Derek Minter King of Brands Mick Chatterton & Sid Machin the Lincolnshire 'yellow bellies'of Cadwell Bob Mac the hero of Oulton Barry Sheen the conquorer of Scarborough John Cooper Mallory and of coarse not to forget Joe Dunlop the King Of the Mountain. Mind you Mike the Bike has to fit in here somewhere as well as J.H P.R P. W. ect.
Just my opinion from my days

Edited by Arthur, 02 October 2009 - 18:37.

[Russell Burrows]

Hi Russell

No. 7 looks like Rod Scivyer.

Not Rodney, Mick, he's much better looking. The second guy is a name too.

[Rennmax]

Not Rodney, Mick, he's much better looking. The second guy is a name too.

#7 Rex Butcher on the Ivy Yamaha ?

[ex Rhodie racer 2]

Did Somebody mention the Palace?

OK, just guessing. Rex Butcher and Geoff Barry followed by I don´t know.
Isn´t it significant that someone like Mike didn´t have a favorite track? He was just brilliant everywhere.

Edited by ex Rhodie racer 2, 02 October 2009 - 19:21.

[Russell Burrows]

#7 Rex Butcher on the Ivy Yamaha ?

Well done Renn.... He was said to have been chosen to ride the Ivy bike as he almost never crashed, which I think was probably true. But then he never quite achieved either did he ?

[Russell Burrows]

OK, just guessing. Rex Butcher and Geoff Barry followed by I don´t know.
Isn´t it significant that someone like Mike didn´t have a favorite track? He was just brilliant everywhere.

Not Geoff Rhodie...fair punt though.

[Rennmax]

Well done Renn.... He was said to have been chosen to ride the Ivy bike as he almost never crashed, which I think was probably true. But then he never quite achieved either did he ?

Hi Russ, well I think he had his fair share of success on Dunstall Nortons and as partner of Dave Degens in 24 h races (Barcelona in '65) ...but I have no idea how he performed on the smoker

[Russell Burrows]

Joe Dunphy I allways thought of as the master of Palace Derek Minter King of Brands Mick Chatterton & Sid Machin the Lincolnshire 'yellow bellies'of Cadwell Bob Mac the hero of Oulton Barry Sheen the conquorer of Scarborough John Cooper Mallory and of coarse not to forget Joe Dunlop the King Of the Mountain. Mind you Mike the Bike has to fit in here somewhere as well as J.H P.R P. W. ect.
Just my opinion from my days

Yes Arthur, in the mid sixties, Joe was the boy to beat at the Palace. Griff Jenkins usually gave him a run for his money, sometimes winning too. Rex was quick there as well, especially later on with the Yams.

Edited by Russell Burrows, 02 October 2009 - 19:46.

[Russell Burrows]

Hi Russ, well I think he had his fair share of success on Dunstall Nortons and as partner of Dave Degens in 24 h races (Barcelona in '65) ...but I have no idea how he performed on the smoker

Yeah a good rider Renn, but just didn't crash enough...... Was it Hailwood who, after learning that Ralph Bryans hadn't crashed all season, told Bryans that he wasn't trying nearly hard enough ..?

[picblanc]

Did Somebody mention the Palace?

22 Stan Woods?

[Coupe Kawasaki]

22 Stan Woods?

Pat Mahoney #22?


David

[picblanc]

Hi David

IIRC Griff Roberts still holds the record for the highest number of wins at Mallory, 350+, he was no slouch either at Darley and Cadwell.

WWW?

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

[fil2.8]

Shhhhhhhh I won't let on that it's Griff Roberts Mr Fu . Oh , sorry , I have

[Russell Burrows]

22 Stan Woods?

?.....sure you're not sure Gra? Yes, Stan Woods is correct.

Edited by Russell Burrows, 02 October 2009 - 20:58.

[Coupe Kawasaki]

WWW?

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

Wellesbourne or Gaydon? about 76? MMCRC ?


David

[picblanc]

Wellesbourne or Gaydon? about 76? MMCRC ?


David

Waterbeach North of Cambridge. 1976/77?

[picblanc]

?.....sure you're not sure Gra? Yes, Stan Woods is correct.

A shot in the dark!!

[Coupe Kawasaki]

Someone called M.Otter at Cadwell always seemed to have his name in the results a lot.

Anything about him?

David

[picblanc]

Someone called M.Otter at Cadwell always seemed to have his name in the results a lot.

Anything about him?

David

Mick Otter? From Rotherham.

Edited by picblanc, 03 October 2009 - 21:34.

[Coupe Kawasaki]

Mick Otter? From Rotherham.

I guess so Graham, he was never there when I went and they didn't give full names in MCN


David

[gmwzorro]

Mick Otter Mallory 92

[Coupe Kawasaki]

Mick Otter Mallory 92

Great Pic Zorro Love the paint job


David

[jonnyspa27]

Didn't Mr. Schwantz go pretty well at Donington? 4 wins from 7 tries?

[Coupe Kawasaki]

Didn't Mr. Schwantz go pretty well at Donington? 4 wins from 7 tries?

Yes and his tearful retirement from racing was announced there wasn't it Johnny? Loved watching Revvin' Kevin'
Just done my lad's bike in Lucky Strike colours too!


David

[picblanc]

Didn't Mr. Schwantz go pretty well at Donington? 4 wins from 7 tries?

Now thats what I call a Kerb! no straight lining that beast!!

[jonnyspa27]

Now thats what I call a Kerb! no straight lining that beast!!

Yeah Kevin was so lanky he couldn't stick his knee out like the shorter riders (Rainey, Roberts, etc)
did it more of a human 'outrigger' so to speak. Man, I loved watching him ride!

[Classicpics]

Master of Mallory

[Classicpics]

Master of Oulton Park
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[Classicpics]

Master of Every Circuit?
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[Classicpics]

Master of the Nurburgring

[fil2.8]

Master of Every Circuit?

Don't think anybody would argue with that CP
Master of any bike he rode I reckon as well .................. Honda 500/4

[Classicpics]

Don't think anybody would argue with that CP
Master of any bike he rode I reckon as well .................. Honda 500/4

I'll agree with that, but I think it's the 350/6

Edit

Sorry. I guess you mean the master of any bike including the 500/4 bucking bronco.

My mistake.

Edited by Classicpics, 16 October 2009 - 19:23.

[fil2.8]

I'll agree with that, but I think it's the 350/6

Edit

Sorry. I guess you mean the master of any bike including the 500/4 bucking bronco.

My mistake.

That's what I meant CP . We were on the bank by Glen Helen for the Senior in '67 , during his titanic battle with ' Ago ' and to see Mike wrestle the pig standing on the footrests was frightening to watch , a man of steel , no doubt .
I've yet to meet anybody with a bad word to say about him

[Classicpics]

That's what I meant CP . We were on the bank by Glen Helen for the Senior in '67 , during his titanic battle with ' Ago ' and to see Mike wrestle the pig standing on the footrests was frightening to watch , a man of steel , no doubt .
I've yet to meet anybody with a bad word to say about him

Yes you are correct everyone loved him and he rode hard all the time, lap records and race records, conditions allowing, at all tracks. I remember him being lapped at Mallory riding the 500/4 can't remember the year but the conditions were awful, rain and sleet but when most would have pulled in on that bike, when he came out of the hairpin he always looked back and if he was getting caught he would get out of the way and not hold them up and he just kept going to finish! Nothing to prove but he knew the fans had come to see him ride.

I was in the Island in 1968, my 21st birthday as well, I walked down the road from Glen Helen Hotel and the man that stood out for me was Pasolini way faster and wilder than anyone else between the walls, quite frightening. Another one of those moments you will never forget.

[fil2.8]

I was in the Island in 1968, my 21st birthday as well, I walked down the road from Glen Helen Hotel and the man that stood out for me was Pasolini way faster and wilder than anyone else between the walls, quite frightening. Another one of those moments you will never forget.

I was also there in '68 but was lucky enough to get Renzo's autograph when he retired at the Creg Hotel on the 350 in '67 , mind you , it cost me a fag , a fair exchange I reckon in the circumstances

[Classicpics]

Over the years there have been lots of riders who were almost unbeatable on certain circuits yet didn't seem to do it anywhere else for whatever reason, There must have been loads. I suppose most will be club/national level riders. I remember Griff Roberts being like this at Mallory. Any pics of Griff anyone?Steve Bevington too, same circuit?



David

Found a pic, new I had some.

[Classicpics]

[bobness]

Ron Haslam was virtually unbeatable around Donington for a while in the early 80s, and Mr Henshaw went especially well at Brands (usually the Powerbike weekend) Mallory and Scarborough.
Mr Sheene always seemed to shine (sorry...) at Anderstorp IIRC.
Whatever happened to Anderstorp BTW?

[kerrowmoar]

Dave Hill?