135 replies to this topic

[Liuggi]

I blame Trulli; would he like some cheese to go with his WHINE?

[learningtobelost]

Heh, 100% Trulli thus far. I think the team may not entirely support his crusade to the Stewards...

[Regiotap]

Trulli. Sutil did nothing wrong.

Give Trulli a ban for his behaviour. Unproffesional.

[mursuka80]

Trulli.His interview he gave to Finnish TV was comedy gold "Sutil is crazy dangerous and Alonso agrees with me!"

[kaivo]

Nah Trulli game too fast.
Isay Racing Incident. Trulli overreacted.

[craftverk]

Trulli. What a moron he was today

[Shevek]

Trulli.His interview he gave to Finnish TV was comedy gold "Sutil is crazy dangerous and Alonso agrees with me!"

In fact, Alonso said on the Spanish TV, that Sutil was completely innocent on the crash with him (Alonso), since poor Sutil was even backwards.

[FlatOverCrest]

Trulli at fault...

I dont think I have ever heard of "the outside line beyond the rumble strips and off the race track" as a genuine place to make a passing attempt, other than maybe Rallycross!

Was bloody stupid, only to then be even more idiotic having a finger pointy session with the bloke "HE" just punted off!

Oh well... Manor or Campos for him next year?

Edited by FlatOverCrest, 18 October 2009 - 18:38.

[mursuka80]

In fact, Alonso said on the Spanish TV, that Sutil was completely innocent on the crash with him (Alonso), since poor Sutil was even backwards.

Its not enough Trulli is a whiner,but he also lies What an asshole

[dau]

http://www.youtube.c...;fmt=18#t=6m02s

That one goes to Trulli.

[learningtobelost]

Someone just posted this on another thread:



Sutil clearly gave Trulli PLENTY of room. Case closed?

[ryan86]

Trulli, but I think his reaction has probably made it slightly worse than the actual incident was.

[Pharazon]

racing incident...

[Atreiu]

Trulli must be thick or what. First lap on the outside full throttle? Get real.

[Victor_RO]

Trulli. Frankly, it was pretty stupid for him to hang around the outside like that until the tarmac simply finished.

[dexter311]

Poor execution on track by Trulli, Sutil left heaps of room there. Perfect execution of an epic dummy-spit afterwards though.

[FlatOverCrest]

Someone just posted this on another thread:

Sutil clearly gave Trulli PLENTY of room. Case closed?

THAT frame right there is the exact moment, Trulli should have lifted as he was never going to pass Sutil and he knew as much. To keep his foot in to then induce the tank slapper that speared into Sutil was gross stupidity!

So I fully agree...on the evidence posted above.... case closed....

[Phucaigh]

Someone just posted this on another thread:



Sutil clearly gave Trulli PLENTY of room. Case closed?

Watching the video, it seems Sutil didn't see him as he gave him no room to be on the track going into the corner.

[wingwalker]

100% Trulli. Sutil gave him enough room but he overcooked on the kerbs - no TC to help this year, Jarno.

oh actually he went wider than I thought, and right rear tire touched the grass. Entirely his own fault, it's not even worth discussing.

[Scotracer]

80/20 Trulli's fault.

[William Hunt]

Trulli for sure, he was way too aggressive. Already the 4th time (3 times this year + Monaco '08) that Sutil gets pushed out of a top 4 racing position by another car (Raikkönen did that to him in Nürburgring & Monaco '08). Sutil & Force India could have had much more points...

[Kooper]

100% Trulli. Sutil gave him enough room but he overcooked on the kerbs - no TC to help this year, Jarno.

oh actually he went wider than I thought, and right rear tire touched the grass. Entirely his own fault, it's not even worth discussing.

all Jarnos fault

[Captain Tightpants]

I'd say 50/50, but if I had to choose, I'd say Trulli as well. The outburst afterwards was uncalled-for as well.

[Dragonfly]

Although I think Trulli is more to blame I vote for a racing accident.
Punishments only make drivers refrain from trying a pass and close fights and overtakings are what lacks most nowadays.

[wingwalker]

And just because I'm such a master of Microsoft Paint ;)

Trulli goes onto the kerbs:


Trulli puts right tires onto the grass with not even remotely close to pushing him there



I'm pissed at Trulli, with his experience he should have known it's worth to wait and see the replay before launching a full on assault on Sutil, that way some people are going be convinced it was Sutil thought just by the weight of his reaction. Trulli ended his own and Sutil race and then blamed that on Sutil without any ground for it. Clown of the race easily.

Edit: oh yeah, and Alonso's race too. Nice job, there.

Edited by wingwalker, 18 October 2009 - 19:00.

[potmotr]

Trulli.

He should have known better.

His tantrum was that of a man under pressure for a ride next year.

[JarnoA]

Sutil clearly pushed him off. It is just a shame that Jarno didn't take his helmet off and kick his arse.

Obviously, it wouldn't happen, because Sutil would run away in a really gay way

[BlackCat]

Trulli was pushed onto area with no grip and Sutil did not know he was there.

[Umpire]

Trulli took far too many chances going around the outside...

[fosters35]

Racing incident regardless if one driver is slightly more to blame than the other. Isn't this called motor racing where the idea is to beat the car in front?

Honestly, everyone moans about the lack of overtaking yet also moan when someone 'may' have been in the wrong when trying to pass. Everything is split second decisions and i'd rather see drivers going for it than a procession.
I've moaned about the last 3 races but Brazil was quite a good one - the new Jap guy made things exciting to but i'm sure others will moan about him...

[Madras]

Trulli has the record for the number of times going out of a race on the first lap.

[dau]

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/79597

Trulli fined $10,000 for unsporting behaviour. Wonder what he actually said to Sutil...

[Melbourne Park]

Trulli gets fined 10,000, for getting 20 million dollars of PR for Toyota.

One of the great highlights of the season for me, was seeing Trulli have "some words".

It was like the old days for a minute ... unfortunately, there was no right cross. Not even some kicking (actually smarter than the right cross if one considers the helmet, eh Ayrton? (looking up to the heavens I am). Maybe next time Jarno ... still I've given you a 10 out of 10.

Edited by Melbourne Park, 18 October 2009 - 21:56.

[GerardF1]

Trulli has to eat that one .. But Sutil should be saying sorry to Alonso for taking him out

Edited by GerardF1, 19 October 2009 - 01:25.

[Jones Foyer]

Trulli climbing onto his tippy toes to try to get somewhat in Sutil's face was a precious moment.

[seltaeb]

Probably Trulli's fault today in Interlagos. But Sutil deserves to have a race of his ruined after what he did to Heidfeld in Singapore and arguably Heikki in Suzuka. Karma is a Toyota being driven by an Italian that doesn't know when to lift.

[Hairpin]

Seems like Sutil is involved in a lot more incidents than any driver, would be fun to see stats on that. But in this case he have zero guilt, he left lot more space to Trulli than I have seen any other driver do for years. Maybe Trulli forgot the race was being recorded, that there would be replays, because he must have known he simply ****ed up.

[Atreiu]

Trulli has to eat that one .. But Sutil should be saying sorry to Alonso for taking him out

Sorry for what? He had no controle of he car and could do nothing to avoid it.

[Slyder]

Sutil kept his racing line and even gave Trulli room. Truly a dumb incident from Jarno on his part.

[Muz Bee]

Usually Sutil, not today. Not a racing incident, 100% Trulli's fault. Unbelievably wrong assessment of his position by experienced F1 driver - "the throttle works both ways" (open, closed) Jarno. You needed to get out of the throttle, you shouldn't need us to tell you - FAIL! Watch the replay, cringe!

[primer]

Trulli should have lifted and let Sutil move ahead. And then attacked him in the next few corners. But Jarno has never demonstrated much sense when racing closely with other drivers.

[TurboF1]

Trulli should have lifted and let Sutil move ahead. And then attacked him in the next few corners. But Jarno has never demonstrated much sense when racing closely with other drivers.

Trulli 100 percent wrong. He's bitching about Sutil when Jarno lost the right rear on the grass through sheer lack of spatial awareness. He had enough room to keep all 4 wheels on track.

[Ultra150]

His tantrum was that of a man under pressure for a ride next year.

There it is.

[doggy]

Trulli has the record for the number of times going out of a race on the first lap.

Show me the record.

[doggy]

Not shown by the picture posted in this thread but Trulli was at the side of Sutil long before the corner exit (the video shows that). Sutil said he didn't realize someone was there so he went on normal racing line. If he did realize, he could have given a bit more room a bit more room before the exit, because by the time Trulli is on the strip at speed, he could not just get back to the track quick enough as there's no grip. Again, it's a fast corner so even if Sutil knew, it might not be safe for himself to move away from normal racing line. 50/50. Racing incident.

I think people should calm down about the so-called "crazy" moves (not only the one in this thread). The first one or two lap in the race are always full of stuff drivers wouldn't try otherwise. Most of the overtaking moves during these laps are justified (although many times end badly) as people are just braking and accelerating out of rhythm, darting and moving around, increasing a chance some passing moves might stick. It's great fun to watch!

[PassWind]

Trulli should have never got off his train....

[Henrik B]

What Trulli never saw was Kimi, going slow because of his lost wing. Sutil had to lift for Kimi, and thus Trulli was way faster. Trulli had to choose between going around him or lift, and in my view he took the racer's decision. Sutil didn't "give" him any room, as he never saw him (which is totally understandable). Those two pics shown earlier are taken before and after Sutil do the final push that put Trulli on to the grass - in the final pic Sutil has seen him and moves into the track. Critical moment is before that. I really don't blame Trulli for reacting, his perception must be that Sutil slows down and then pushes him over the kerb.

But what's up with the fine? You get a fine for yelling nowadays? THAT is bullshit.

[Jackmancer]

Racing incident. I can understand Trulli's behavior though, his body must have been fully pumped with adrenaline after that crash.

So whilst I understand his behavior I do not approve it.

[potmotr]

Was quite similar to the Spainish GP, another monster shunt involving Trulli going off track and into Sutil.

I can't see how it was Sutil's fault, I really can't.

Would have been interesting if they'd got into serious fisticuffs.

Sutil would nail Trulli with his superior height and reach.

[wingwalker]

Not shown by the picture posted in this thread but Trulli was at the side of Sutil long before the corner exit (the video shows that). Sutil said he didn't realize someone was there so he went on normal racing line. If he did realize, he could have given a bit more room a bit more room before the exit, because by the time Trulli is on the strip at speed, he could not just get back to the track quick enough as there's no grip. Again, it's a fast corner so even if Sutil knew, it might not be safe for himself to move away from normal racing line. 50/50. Racing incident.

He could, he would have to lift though. He choose not to and went on the grass all by himself, he actually didn't need to put his car that much far onto the kebrs. It's not even close to being 50/50.