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#1451 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 17:56

I'm loathe to say this, but sod what Head wants - the team need to improve and they need the best team possible for that to happen - if Jock Clear is part of that team, then Patrick Head should just take him back in, and they can just agree to disagree and behave like the professionals they are.


Woah Woah Woah Woah, no need for any of this. We have absolutely no idea what Patrick thinks or doesn't think so let's not start making accusations.

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#1452 MortenF1

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 18:05

A shame that they went in the wrong direction with Hülkenberg. He looked faster than Barrichello in the first session. Strange that they didn't drop the new direction they went in set-up wise midway through FP2 when they saw it didn't work as well. Guess it was changes made to account for the changing conditions and so they believed in them.

#1453 Tufty

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Posted 23 October 2010 - 01:14

Woah Woah Woah Woah, no need for any of this. We have absolutely no idea what Patrick thinks or doesn't think so let's not start making accusations.

I didn't think Jock Clear left the team on good terms with Head - correct me if I'm wrong [and I hope I am]

#1454 seltaeb

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Posted 23 October 2010 - 02:16

I'd like to see Jock Clear become Rubens' race engineer again. I think they worked well together.

#1455 KiwiF1

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Posted 23 October 2010 - 02:34

I didn't think Jock Clear left the team on good terms with Head - correct me if I'm wrong [and I hope I am]

Correct, for those that don't remember, Jock and Jacques Villeneuve both left the team to do BAR, after a very hard (but productive) season, in which I think they both rubbed PH up the wrong way. Probably not hard to do but you can't knock his ability either. Personally I would love Jock to come back but I some how think this will not be happening.

#1456 Nustang70

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 08:56

Choke! :eek:

#1457 KiwiF1

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:10

I can't believe we blew a fistful of points. Now we are 3 points behind Force India. We only had to hang on 5 laps. I guess I shouldn't be disappointed as it was still a 7th and a 10th, but when you know where they could have finished. Still I am happier than my husband who being a Webber fan wanted to watch something else and has spent the whole race not wanting to talk about the racing.

#1458 Francesc

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:18

This is tipically Williams, it has happened for some consecutive years now, when we have the chance to jump someone on the WCC, we don't deliver, and I don't see it changing this season :well:

#1459 Lord Snooty

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 11:57

Well, today was great until the last few laps when we were bitten by tyres. Rubens' went west while Nico had a slow puncture. But pace was competitive enough and Rubens was in a good position (as was Nico).

As for the tyres going off, you just have to read Button's comments (and those from Hamilton) to put in perspective how much of a lottery it was with the rubber out there.

Its a pity Sutil got past but, hey, thats racing!

So, roll on Brasil, Rubens' home track and somewhere where I think we can do well.


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#1460 DW9

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 12:43

Good race for the guys today. Shame about the tyre issues towards the end which went some way to blunting a very competitive weekend.

Force India are starting to get to me. They seem to be ahead of us by scoring the odd good result, since Valencia (9 races) williams have only scored 0 twice which is great consistency given the competitivness of the upper half of the field. I do hope Brazil puts us into 6th in the CC.

#1461 Flyhigh

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 23:22

I like the WE, you guys are real fans, props. Is not like those type of guys that are fans only when the team is up.

#1462 KiwiF1

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 06:51

I like the WE, you guys are real fans, props. Is not like those type of guys that are fans only when the team is up.

Believe me it takes a great deal of patience to support Williams, we are all dying for them to do well. Just when it looked like we would get a great result and jump FI we are dealt a cruel blow. I have said it before it takes a bit of luck to win championship (obviously a great car and consistent drivers) however our luck never seems quite there.

Still looking forward to Brazil and maybe Ruebens can have a great home race and Nico can prove that talent should come before sponsorship money.



#1463 Jambo

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 11:22

Very unlucky for Nico with the puncture and the bad pitstop timing, pity for Rubens that the tyres couldn't hold on that bit longer.

Still the car showed good race performance and hopefully at Interlagos the car will work well.

#1464 roadie

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 11:41

Awful shame about the result, especially as Nico drove a superb race. Looks like the WDC won't be the only thing going to the wire!

If Brazil is dry, then I fancy Williams to outperform FI. However, points will still be tough to come by. We just need one big result...

#1465 Kucki

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 17:09

http://www.autosport...ne.php/id/87787

iRacing launches virtual Williams FW31

Online racing simulation company iRacing has launched its virtual version of the Williams FW31 following the deal that was signed with the F1 team back in January.

The virtual machine was designed using the data and geometry from the real car, which was used by the team during the 2009 Formula world championship."The car is fantastic," said IndyCar driver Justin Wilson of the car. "It's just how I remembered driving an F1 car and more driver-friendly than I expected"Whatever your experience, you can drive the car, though getting the last bit is really hard. But that's the challenge." Dave Kirkman, Simulator Engineer at Williams, added: "Driving the iRacing FW31, I can make exactly the same adjustments as I'd make driving the Williams F1 simulator, from wheel functions like differential settings and engine modes to brake bias."It's the closest I've come to driving a modern accurate F1 sim on my PC to date, even the dash display behaves like the real thing.

#1466 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 20:00

http://news.bbc.co.u...one/9141018.stm

#1467 madrocker

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 23:25

This is getting scary, I don't wanna see Rubens out of drive for next year nor driving for a lowly team :eek:

Edited by madrocker, 29 October 2010 - 23:25.


#1468 FEB

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 15:35

so, they will dump Rubens?

:confused:


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#1469 hogstar

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 16:02

By the sounds of it Williams have no more idea about their driver line up when anyone else does. Losing one sponsor is bad enough, but losing several throws everything up in the air. They've underachieved - again - this season, but at the same time made progress and have a good driver pairing IF they can afford to keep them. The most important winter for Williams for many a year.

#1470 KiwiF1

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:33

Sorry only posting here to move the thread out of page 3, it really is no good!!!

But while I am here lets discuss the gearbox deal with HRT, I was a bit surprised not because of the gearbox and engine combo, they've been very reliable and not a repeat of 2006, but more because I didn't think that HRT would be on the grid come 2011. I wonder what sort of income this could bring Williams, hopefully enough to get us out of the 'pay driver' arena.


#1471 Little Leaf

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 06:54

Sorry only posting here to move the thread out of page 3, it really is no good!!!

But while I am here lets discuss the gearbox deal with HRT, I was a bit surprised not because of the gearbox and engine combo, they've been very reliable and not a repeat of 2006, but more because I didn't think that HRT would be on the grid come 2011. I wonder what sort of income this could bring Williams, hopefully enough to get us out of the 'pay driver' arena.


Let's just hope they get HRT to pay up front! Not sure what their finances are like...

Although it should be a bit of income for the team, they still need to find some new sponsors fast. Again Kolles has done a deal with Williams (he had a hand in the Porsche KERS deal I think)



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Posted 03 November 2010 - 09:16

But while I am here lets discuss the gearbox deal with HRT, I was a bit surprised not because of the gearbox and engine combo, they've been very reliable and not a repeat of 2006, but more because I didn't think that HRT would be on the grid come 2011. I wonder what sort of income this could bring Williams, hopefully enough to get us out of the 'pay driver' arena.


possibly they could "rent" Hülkenberg to HRT for one year and give him a contract for 2012 in advance. That would allow Barrichello to do a last glorious year in F1, secure the sponsor money from Maldonado and keep Hülkenberg as an opportunity for the future.

but I'm not sure about myself

#1473 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 12:52

The last thing Williams need is another Petrov; someone who brings a lot of sponsorship money but has a tendency to bin it into the nearest concrete wall.

They need a fast, consistent reliable driver with experience and team building know-how (ie Rubens).

Rubens' drives this year must have gotten the team millions of extra revenue.

Pay drivers usually end up with extreme psychological pressure on themselves and over-drive in order to prove a point.

#1474 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 14:50

The last thing Williams need is another Petrov; someone who brings a lot of sponsorship money but has a tendency to bin it into the nearest concrete wall.


More commonly known in these parts as a Nakajima...*sigh*


(Kaz ftw)

#1475 Jambo

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 15:15

NAKA FTW!

On another note with what I have been reading I wouldn't be surprised to see an unchanged line up at Williams.

#1476 Tufty

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 09:36

I wouldn't be surprised to see an unchanged line up at Williams.

Neither would I, but I'm guessing if we do, Maldonado will be in HRT, paying his way through Williams...

#1477 roadie

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 11:55

Go team this weekend. 3 points over two races will be tough if none of the front runners fail to finish. Here's hoping for some crashing!

Ruebens has a new engine this weekend :)

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 10:29

Saturday 6 November at 10:01 : Nov.6 (GMM) One of Williams' major sponsors has revealed it is leaving the British team at the end of the season.

The Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) is also leaving Grove based Williams after next Sunday's Abu Dhabi grand prix, and it is rumoured that AirAsia and McGregor are set to follow suit.

And a Dutch media report said Philips, the Dutch electronics multinational, has decided not to renew its contract beyond 2010.

Presently, Philips - a team sponsor for five years - has significant branding on the rear wing of the FW32, so the news is a big blow to the independent team.

“We have been pleased with our partnership with Williams," said Patrick Overwijk, Philips' global sponsorship manager.

"The reason we are stopping the sponsorship has nothing to do with Williams," he told formule1.nl.

"Philips has decided to withdraw from formula one in order to pursue a different kind of sponsorship," he explained.

Williams has been contacted for comment.

http://www.onestopst...e Williams.html



#1479 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:07

I demand this be top of the first page.


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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#1480 dank

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:09

Epic showing by Hulkenberg and the Williams crew. Their first pole since the European GP in 2005 - 100 races ago!

#1481 anbeck

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:10

Well done!!!! :up: :up: :up:

#1482 Francesc

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:11

I'm nearly crying :cry: :cry:

That kid IS THE NEXT BIG THING.

Thanks Nico!!! :clap: :clap:

#1483 Tufty

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:11

YYYYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1484 Don_Humpador

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:12

Well done to him, but let's see him do it in the race and be more consistent next year before we go ape-**** crazy.

#1485 King Six

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:12

Good race for the guys today. Shame about the tyre issues towards the end which went some way to blunting a very competitive weekend.

Force India are starting to get to me. They seem to be ahead of us by scoring the odd good result, since Valencia (9 races) williams have only scored 0 twice which is great consistency given the competitivness of the upper half of the field. I do hope Brazil puts us into 6th in the CC.

If P1 and P6 doesn't do it, nothing will. At the very least, Williams should be looking at the podium for this race

#1486 teejay

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:12

awesome awesome awesome!!

from a mclaren fan, to the williams faithful - well done!

#1487 Disgrace

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:14

Enjoy the first few corners tomorrow because those Red Bulls will waltz past in no time at all. Still, great job today.

#1488 Dispenser89

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:14

Well done. Pole from the Hulk and p6 for Rubens.

#1489 Jambo

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:15

Tears in my eyes, shaking, not been so happy for a long time...

Well done the team well done the Hulk and well done Rubens with 6th.

Force India, we are coming for you!

#1490 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:16

Sometimes being eternal optimists pays off

#1491 FlashMaster

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:17

Maldonado WHO?

#1492 4L3X

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:18

Hulkenberg and Williams, wow, well done guys!

#1493 Jambo

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:18

Sometimes being eternal optimists pays off


I tell you what the bad times make the good bits so much sweeter!

#1494 Flyhigh

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:23

I know this will sound kind of crazy but for Williams, I believe Rubens is in a strategically better position in P6. Nico will be attacked all over the place tomorrow and to have some kind of incident will be really easy.

While Barrichello is in a place where it will be easier to base his race upon. But it still great for Williams to be on the full spotlight and get much attention. But I would not be surprised if he finishes behind Barrichello tomorrow.

Edited by Flyhigh, 06 November 2010 - 17:25.


#1495 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:26

Hello potential sponsors, ignore the other races, they didn't matter today was the whole season.

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:26

:clap: Congratulations to Williams and all their fans, nice to see the team back where it belongs, hopefully they can build on this for next year.

Edited by TheArmchairCritic, 06 November 2010 - 17:26.


#1497 Boing 2

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:33

Oh Mama! a Williams on pole.........ladies and gentlemen, normal service has resumed :clap:

#1498 MaxisOne

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:35

awesome awesome awesome!!

from a mclaren fan, to the williams faithful - well done!



Same here .. Best Regards from the Mercedes Camp !

#1499 Jambo

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:41

I think the best thing is that he didn't just get it becuase of timing and because he was the last to get a lap, he was already on pole before he started the final lap that tppk him a second ahead. He did it all on talent. :)

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 17:45

Enjoy the first few corners tomorrow because those Red Bulls will waltz past in no time at all. Still, great job today.


The last time I heard that was when a Toro Rosso was on pole at Monza! :p