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#201 jeze

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:24

The Williams car looks like a dragster :eek:

I doubt the aero efficiency of that one to be honest, I think the airflow will stall underneath the nose... It looks pretty ugly to be honest.

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#202 Muzzinho

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:24

I guess all teams will follow this concept.

Nice shot!


I think that the new teams will look quite different and Red Bull is said to have a few tricks up its sleeve.

But nice looking car. Doesnt seem as long as the Ferrari.

#203 potmotr

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:25

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/81104


Nice exclusive there!

Well done!

Really high nose.

#204 potmotr

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:26

Not many sponsors though...

#205 Xaus

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:27

The Williams car looks like a dragster :eek:

I doubt the aero efficiency of that one to be honest, I think the airflow will stall underneath the nose... It looks pretty ugly to be honest.

Wow, you should call up Sir Frank right away and tell him to hire you. You are, after all, more qualified, educated, and experienced in F1 aerodynamics and an aerodynamicist than all the Williams aero department.

You are, aren't you? I mean, why else would you make such a comment? :cat:

#206 FlashMaster

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:27

Well done autosport !

The airbox intakes and the whole car look way more aggressive than the F10

Edited by FlashMaster, 28 January 2010 - 16:28.


#207 UPRC

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:27

Best looking Williams in several years! I really like it!!

#208 Xaus

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:27

Not many sponsors though...

Williams' new driver Nico Hulkenberg gave the car its first try out in the blue and white car that has not yet been fully liveried.



#209 jeze

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:29

Wow, you should call up Sir Frank right away and tell him to hire you. You are, after all, more qualified, educated, and experienced in F1 aerodynamics and an aerodynamicist than all the Williams aero department.

You are, aren't you? I mean, why else would you make such a comment? :cat:


Nah, I'm a Ferrari consultant  ;)

I'm no expert in aerodynamics, but just having a car looking different doesn't mean it'll be fast...

#210 highdownforce

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:30

I think that the new teams will look quite different [...]

From the pics we've seen (USF1, Dallara mock up), the new teams will follow the 2009 Force India's design.


#211 Slowinfastout

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:31

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/81104


Wow! that looks ace from that angle! :love:

The Ferrari looks pretty tame in comparison.

#212 depailler on tyrrell p34

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:31

pull rod like red bull behind?is son low!

Edited by depailler on tyrrell p34, 28 January 2010 - 16:31.


#213 UPRC

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:33

The more I look at that picture, the more I like it. The car looks really sleek and aggressive, like a shark.

#214 BiH

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:36

interesting notice behind the tcam they have small opening. i guess more cooling for the engine.

#215 highdownforce

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:40

interesting notice behind the tcam they have small opening. i guess more cooling for the engine.

I've spotted that too, and maybe that's the reason.

#216 barteks

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:40

Not many sponsors though...

Have you read the article? :rolleyes:

#217 LostProphet

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:40

Looks nice, from that image it looks to have Brawn/McLaren-esque sidepod openings (i.e. pretty small!) so nice tight packaging.

I hope it's a winner for Williams' sake, but it looks like a LOT of teams (as expected) will be creating a RB/Brawn clone this year so unless someone really buggers things up, the performance, as in 2009, will be seperated by the tiniest of margins.

#218 potmotr

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:41

Williams' new driver Nico Hulkenberg gave the car its first try out in the blue and white car that has not yet been fully liveried.


Oops, my mistake Sir! :)

#219 Francesc

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:41

interesting notice behind the tcam they have small opening. i guess more cooling for the engine.


The FW31 already had this.

Extremely tight rear end, it looks quite shorter than the F10

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#220 potmotr

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:41

Have you read the article? :rolleyes:


^^^^ Yes yes, I know. ^^^^

#221 Ruud de la Rosa

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:43

Every car is going to look the same isn't it? Red Bull clones. Disappointing. But it's not about the looks is it...



Yep, a year ahead with the same concept it would appear in theory.


Or is it a sign red bull is losing its advantage compared to last year? That said, red bull can incorporate the ddd better this year. Interesting to see if they will sport pull or push rod in the back. Williams could be running pull from the looks of it... We need bigger pictures! :)

Edit: do they have blue cameras mounted to the nose or strangely shaped tip of the nose? Again; we need bigger and better pictures!

Edited by Ruud de la Rosa, 28 January 2010 - 16:48.


#222 BiH

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:44

The FW31 already had this.

Extremely tight rear end, it looks quite shorter than the F10



yep your right. just never noticed it before.

#223 Bouncing Pink Ball

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:45

Having seen photos of both the Ferrari and now the Williams I like the style of the latter more. It looks faster (I know, I know...that's a typically idiot forum statement) but it does! Perhaps it helps to see the car in action, getting a peek at how it sits on the track, so I may change my mind once I've seen the Ferrari at testing, but I doubt it. That's a wonderfully speedy looking Williams. The livery is nicer, too. *






* All of the above may be tainted by my, er...preference for Williams over Ferrari. Just maybe.  ;)



#224 Scotracer

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:48

Is that running 2010 spec front tyres? They look smaller than the rears both in height and width.



#225 Lukin83

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:50

The nose looks more like a late BMW from the last season than a RBR.

#226 f1rules

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:54

Well done autosport !

The airbox intakes and the whole car look way more aggressive than the F10


agreed, that looks like a more agressive car, but how fast theyll be we dont know

#227 Alexis*27

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:55

Nah, I'm a Ferrari consultant

I'm no expert in aerodynamics, but just having a car looking different doesn't mean it'll be fast...


And you can't tell how fast a car will be from just looking at it!



#228 Talryyn

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:57

Interesting to have the front camera placed there. Ferrari moved the camera as well. This gives the Williams a platypus look to maybe a hammerhead look. ;)

#229 highdownforce

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:57

Is that running 2010 spec front tyres? They look smaller than the rears both in height and width.

Probably GP2 tires.

#230 Ruud de la Rosa

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:57

The Williams car looks like a dragster :eek:

I doubt the aero efficiency of that one to be honest, I think the airflow will stall underneath the nose... It looks pretty ugly to be honest.


:rotfl:

#231 roadie

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:58

Higher res version in the Gallery please!

The rear does look very compact, but the "hips" of the sidepods seem quite high and wide. However, that's not unlike last year.

The nose does look very high and slim at its tip, but the FW31 also had quite a high nose. I can't see the presence of an inverted T flow conditioning device like last year under the nose though.

#232 jeze

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:58

:rotfl:


WTF?

#233 highdownforce

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:58

Interesting to have the front camera placed there. Ferrari moved the camera as well. This gives the Williams a platypus look to maybe a hammerhead look.;)

That's the same place of the RBR sported on the second half of last season.

#234 Scotracer

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:59

The Williams car looks like a dragster :eek:

I doubt the aero efficiency of that one to be honest, I think the airflow will stall underneath the nose... It looks pretty ugly to be honest.


:drunk: :lol:


#235 bonjon1979

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 16:59

It looks more sculpted than the ferrari around the rear and it does look like a pull rod suspension. I really like the look of it.

#236 Ruud de la Rosa

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 17:00

WTF?


You are the my main candidate for armchair aerodynamicist of the year so far!

Edited by Ruud de la Rosa, 28 January 2010 - 17:00.


#237 The Ragged Edge

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 17:12

Nice exclusive there!

Well done!

Really high nose.


Its the V keel concept they are all copying from Red Bull and the associated benefits. Scarbs is bang on the money yet again. :up:


#238 Snap Matt

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 17:20

Another swift-looking car. All these Red Bull lookalikes should make for a fairly attractive grid this year.

#239 Timstr11

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 17:24

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Good looking car. Looks better than the Ferrari.
I like the low rear.
The radiator entries are high, like Mac and Brawn last year.
Can't see yet where the exhaust exits.


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#240 Sisplatin

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 17:26

interesting notice behind the tcam they have small opening. i guess more cooling for the engine.

its been there since 2009

#241 TheF1PERSON

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 17:28

From the helmet Nico is using, the two helmet's shouldn't be too hard to tell apart.

#242 jee

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 17:32

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#243 MadYarpen

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 17:35

what is this?

#244 Disgrace

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 17:36

It's a complimentary angle of a potentially hideous nose cone.

Needs sponsors, haha, as pretty as it is now.

Edited by Disgrace, 28 January 2010 - 17:37.


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Posted 28 January 2010 - 17:41

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I'm liking the look of this. Hopefully it's quick. It's been too long since a Williams got to the top step.

It's interesting that it has the high, Red Bull-like nose, but the V on the top surface doesn't seem as pronounced (at least in this shot). Overall the car looks very compact. Can't wait to see some better pics.

#246 d246

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 17:48

Good looking car. I am as surprised by the Williams as I was underwhelmed by the F10. Hope it works for Williams.

#247 bogi

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 17:50

This is Force India nose, not RB.

And its looking great, way better than F10 :up:

#248 r4mses

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 17:56

That black helmet looks great, btw :p

#249 skid solo

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 17:58

The Williams car looks like a dragster :eek:

I doubt the aero efficiency of that one to be honest, I think the airflow will stall underneath the nose... It looks pretty ugly to be honest.


There are times when you want the airflow to stall underneath the nose..

#250 Talryyn

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 18:05

I'm liking the look of this. Hopefully it's quick. It's been too long since a Williams got to the top step.

It's interesting that it has the high, Red Bull-like nose, but the V on the top surface doesn't seem as pronounced (at least in this shot). Overall the car looks very compact. Can't wait to see some better pics.


I think the sidepods might be raised similar to the F10 - just look at where the white meets the blue. It could be an illusion from the angle, but it looks odd, like the pod is really high at that point or angled.