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#251 highdownforce

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 18:06

A source says this of new williams: compact front suspension, trick front splitter and interesting wing, back end tiny, like an f3 car, ...

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#252 intothepits

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 18:09

Don't get too excited for Hulkenberg... Rubens will be the guy for Williams this year.

But yeah... Great looking car, there seems to be a lot of positivity for Williams this year, I do hope Rubens can get that much deserved World Championship at some point.

#253 Hypnotise

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 18:20

The FW31 was looking awesome,This looks slightly better hopefully it can deliver great results for williams they deserve it such a great team in the middle of the 90's

#254 Sausage

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 18:28

Don't get too excited for Hulkenberg... Rubens will be the guy for Williams this year.

But yeah... Great looking car, there seems to be a lot of positivity for Williams this year, I do hope Rubens can get that much deserved World Championship at some point.


Are you sure? I honestly expect Hulkenberg to destroy Rubens. The car looks good and indeed it would be nice for Williams to return to the front again

#255 dabrasco

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 18:30

perhaps Williams could be the Red Bull of this year?


Armchair Engineering back in full swing... yea, the 2010 season has begun

#256 Pharazon

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 18:35

perhaps Williams could be the Red Bull of this year?


with a cosworth engine???


#257 FlashMaster

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 18:47

Don't get too excited for Hulkenberg... Rubens will be the guy for Williams this year.

But yeah... Great looking car, there seems to be a lot of positivity for Williams this year, I do hope Rubens can get that much deserved World Championship at some point.


Yeah maybe the half season, but Hulk will destroy him after he got used to F1 cars and races

#258 mclarensmps

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 18:48

with a cosworth engine???


It's supposed to be the most powerful...

#259 monza2001

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 18:59

It's supposed to be the most powerful...


Well we will se thar very soon. The main problem for Cosworth is the reliability.



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#260 newbie

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:06

it is clearly a pushrod rear suspension. You can save the image and then adjust the contrast and gamma to make the darker parts of the picture appear clearer.

#261 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:08

but just having a car looking different doesn't mean it'll be fast...


Who said it did?

#262 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:11

I'm in love with that nose, and the ar*e on that thing is tiny :love:

Can't wait to see it running.

#263 ashnathan

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:23

to me it looks like the red bull high nose, the very undercut sidepods of the brawn, and the tight low swooping rear end of the red bull also, rear wing endplates still look very simple though but im sure everything will change before bahrain.

#264 Jackmancer

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:31

Sorry I don't get it, how can Williams do a test? Isn't there a testing ban??

#265 DFV

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:34

Sorry I don't get it, how can Williams do a test? Isn't there a testing ban??


It's not a test, it's a shakedown and they are doing filming at the same time. Shakedown means testing if the systems are working. Tires are probably not 2010 spec F1 tires and besides they are running rain tires on the pic.

Edited by DFV, 28 January 2010 - 19:36.


#266 FlashMaster

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:35

Sorry I don't get it, how can Williams do a test? Isn't there a testing ban??


There is some small diffrence between test and shakedown

#267 peroa

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:36

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Little add to that Williams tweet - apparently the team's designers are quite confident about the new car's performance

#268 Jackmancer

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:41

It's not a test, it's a shakedown and they are doing filming at the same time. Shakedown means testing if the systems are working. Tires are probably not 2010 spec F1 tires and besides they are running rain tires on the pic.


Wouldn't it be easy to take benefit of such a shakedown? Maybe tires and aero not working but engine would be.

Edited by Jackmancer, 28 January 2010 - 19:41.


#269 salamin

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:43

http://f1-live.hu/f1...lkenberguj5.jpg
http://f1-live.hu/f1...lkenberguj4.jpg

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:43

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Little add to that Williams tweet - apparently the team's designers are quite confident about the new car's performance


Any reason why they shouldn't be? They designed that thing with the purpose of being fast. :p

#271 fosters35

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:50

Is there circular hole in the rear bodywork by the rear wing or a decal or trick of the light??

*Edit* it looks 'pointy bodywork' at the rear upon 3rd look?

Edited by fosters35, 28 January 2010 - 19:51.


#272 WebBerK

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:51

http://www.motorspor...s_big/57126.jpg


Why does the car is using a calot :confused:

Edited by Gilles4Ever, 28 January 2010 - 21:04.


#273 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:54

Why does the car is using a calot :confused:


What?

#274 highdownforce

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:55

Why does the car is using a calot :confused:

Because it is an old pic?
Note the Philips sticker on the sidepods, those are missing on the today's picture.

Edited by highdownforce, 28 January 2010 - 19:56.


#275 PaulD.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:58

only the Autosport pic shows the new car everything else is from last year...

#276 Hippo

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 20:15

Nice one! Williams are the first team to have their car running. Who would have thought that?;)

Looks like they detached the steering rod from the upper wishbone as McLaren and Red Bull did in 09. I wonder what's the reason for that.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 20:22

Nice one! Williams are the first team to have their car running. Who would have thought that?;)

Looks like they detached the steering rod from the upper wishbone as McLaren and Red Bull did in 09. I wonder what's the reason for that.


Are we worried about Philips? I know it said that the car is un-liveried but obviously Philips is a big sponsor to run out of time to put the decals on. Going to the Williams website and clicking on the Philips logo links to the philips.attwilliams.com website which no longer exists. Anyone know how long the contract was for? I am in the market for a new computer monitor and want to know if I should still purchase a Philips.

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According to here: http://www.motorspor...p...55825&FS=F1 Williams has retained existing sponsors including Philips.

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I must be blind and missed the Philips on the wing, was just looking at the side pods.

Edited by Pilla, 28 January 2010 - 22:49.


#278 dau

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 20:26

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Little add to that Williams tweet - apparently the team's designers are quite confident about the new car's performance


What else were they supposed to say?

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 20:48

http://f1-live.hu/f1...lkenberguj5.jpg
http://f1-live.hu/f1...lkenberguj4.jpg


Not the NEW car

Edited by Gilles4Ever, 28 January 2010 - 21:05.


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#280 V8 Fireworks

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 21:00

It's interesting that it has the high, Red Bull-like nose, but the V on the top surface doesn't seem as pronounced (at least in this shot). Overall the car looks very compact. Can't wait to see some better pics.

Hey ho let's all go...

F2000 nose -> F2004 nose -> F2000 nose

Darn F1 teams won't make up their minds, going around in circles and following each other :drunk:


Car looks nice, extremely similar to the Ferrari. More of a Red Bull/Brawn influence here, than the Red Bull/Sauber influence on the Ferrari.

Edited by V8 Fireworks, 28 January 2010 - 21:02.


#281 Owen

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 21:17

It's clear that high-nose, a la Red Bull is the way to go.

#282 Jackmancer

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 21:21

It's clear that high-nose, a la Red Bull is the way to go.


Why is everybody saying Red Bull nose? It's a combination imo:
2002 Arrows
http://www.f1technic.../arrows-a23.jpg
and 1997 Prost
http://www.f1wolf.co...1997-prost.jpeg

http://i266.photobuc...tian-vettel.jpg

#283 Timstr11

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 21:32

Why is everybody saying Red Bull nose? It's a combination imo:
2002 Arrows
http://www.f1technic.../arrows-a23.jpg
and 1997 Prost
http://www.f1wolf.co...1997-prost.jpeg

http://i266.photobuc...tian-vettel.jpg

If we stick to last season, Toyota and Force India also ran high noses.
The high nose was not unique to RedBull, but rather the shape.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 22:06

Hulkenberg driving a new Williams for the first time?

Tradition dictates that he puts it in the wall.  ;)

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 22:13

btw where the spy shot was taken? testing is banned until FEB and it wanst a promotional event...

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 22:14

btw where the spy shot was taken? testing is banned until FEB and it wanst a promotional event...


It was, i think. They were filming something. And driving WETs so what to test really...

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 22:16

Hulkenberg driving a new Williams for the first time?

Tradition dictates that he puts it in the wall. ;)


No that'll be during the first test. :lol:

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 22:16

btw where the spy shot was taken? testing is banned until FEB and it wanst a promotional event...


It's not a test, it's a shakedown. Systems check etc. Teams are still allowed to do a shakedown on their cars before they take them to a GP weekend AFAIK.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 22:19

Posted Image
Good looking car. Looks better than the Ferrari.
I like the low rear.
The radiator entries are high, like Mac and Brawn last year.
Can't see yet where the exhaust exits.



Twitter thing is correct, look at the front wing end plate, it is cut in two pieces, I am not too sure if this is the last version of end plate tho.

Besides, it looks very small... a good sign?

#290 DFV

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 22:33

btw where the spy shot was taken? testing is banned until FEB and it wanst a promotional event...


As is written previously, Silverstone and they are filming. So, no test but shakedown and promotional.

#291 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 22:40

Hulkenberg driving a new Williams for the first time?

Tradition dictates that he puts it in the wall. ;)


Not till he gets to get it unhindered, come the 1st and he'll bin it don't worry.

#292 Lord Snooty

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 23:05



Looking good!

:clap:


If the old adage of "if it looks fast it is fast" holds true then this could be a good season.



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Posted 28 January 2010 - 23:42

Testing in January is not forbidden. The rules stipulate only that there is no testing between 2 weeks prior to the first race and Dec 31. In January and February everyone can test as they wish. Well, as long as they don't exceed the mileage limit (15'000 km?!).

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 00:20

Why are so many people confusing a shakedown with a test?

It wasn't a test. It was a shakedown. Huge difference. You know, the thing Ferrari was supposed to do at Fiorano if it wasn't iced over today.

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 04:26

Why are so many people confusing a shakedown with a test?

It wasn't a test. It was a shakedown. Huge difference. You know, the thing Ferrari was supposed to do at Fiorano if it wasn't iced over today.


Well if they had kept Kimi they could have tested today!


#296 DFV

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 09:02

Testing in January is not forbidden. The rules stipulate only that there is no testing between 2 weeks prior to the first race and Dec 31. In January and February everyone can test as they wish. Well, as long as they don't exceed the mileage limit (15'000 km?!).


Since we have so much confusion over testing and shakedown etc. Let's just quote the FIA Sporting regs:

22) TRACK AND WIND TUNNEL TESTING
22.1 a) Track testing shall be considered any track running time undertaken by a competitor entered in the Championship with the exception of :
i) promotional or demonstration events carried out using tyres provided specifically for this purpose by the appointed supplier ;
ii) one three day young driver training test, carried out on a site approved by the FIA for Formula 1 cars and between the end of the last Event of the Championship and 31 December of the same year, any such driver having not competed in more than two F1 World Championship Events ;
iii) eight six one day aerodynamic tests carried out on FIA approved straight line or constant radius sites between 1 January 2010 and the end of the last Event of the Championship. Any of these days may be substituted for four hours of wind-on full scale wind tunnel testing to be carried out in a single twenty four hour period.
b) No competitor may carry out more than 15,000km of track testing during a calendar year.
c) No track testing may take place between the start of the week preceding the first Event of the Championship and 31 December of the same year with the following exception.If a team declares that one of its current race drivers is to be substituted by a driver who has not participated in an F1 race in the two previous calendar years, one day of track testing will be permitted between the start of the week preceding second Event and the last Event of the Championship. The following must be observed :
- Any such day may only be carried out by the new driver and may not take place on a circuit hosting a race in the current Championship year.
- Any such day may only take place within a period 14 days prior to the substitution and 14 days after the substitution has taken place.
- If a team, having declared the driver’s substitution and performed the test, does not then enter an Event with the new driver, the team will be penalised by a reduction of one day from the pre-season track testing days available in the following year.
d) During all track testing cars must be fitted with the FIA ECU required by Article 8.2 of the FIA Formula One Technical Regulations.
e) No track testing is permitted at sites which are not currently approved for use by Formula 1 cars. In order to ensure that venue licence conditions are respected at all times during track testing, competitors are required to inform the FIA of their test schedule in order that an observer may be appointed if deemed necessary.
f) During all Formula One track testing :
- red flag procedures must be respected ;
- no other type of vehicle is permitted on the track ;
- every reasonable effort should be made to ensure that the recommendations concerning emergency services detailed in Article 16 of Appendix H to the Code are followed.
g) If, after an incident during track testing, the Medical Warning Light signals that threshold forces have been exceeded the driver must present himself for examination in the circuit medical centre without delay.
h) With the exception of the full scale testing permitted in 22.1(a) above, no wind tunnel testing may be carried out using a scale model which is greater than 60% of full size.
i) No wind tunnel testing may be carried out at a speed exceeding 50 metres/second.


Edited by DFV, 29 January 2010 - 09:03.


#297 Muzzinho

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 09:10

Car looks fast and will win two races with Hulkenberg.

#298 hulmerist

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 09:14

not as sexy as last years car though, gonna be a theme of the new cars i think

last years williams in the dark blue livery looked amazing

#299 Jackmancer

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 09:23

Why are so many people confusing a shakedown with a test?

It wasn't a test. It was a shakedown. Huge difference. You know, the thing Ferrari was supposed to do at Fiorano if it wasn't iced over today.


But teams could still get data from shakedowns right? Such as how the gearbox and engine work.

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 09:35

Car looks fast and will win two races with Hulkenberg.


You've got to be having a laugh haven't you, Hulkenberg is a great unknown for F1, he could win all the titles in the word in the lower series, but as we've seen, some rookie drivers just can't perform as well on the grand stage of F1. I'd think, as Rubens is a proven race winner, and actually won two races last year, he'll be the guy to take the car to a race win. We've also seen how Rubens has made the best out of some poorer cars over the years, taking it to respectful positions.

How people can just rub off Rubens, and make random 'Hulkenberg will win' statements is beyond me, let's see how he is when the season starts. Kind of the shows the typical ignorance of the anti-Rubens attitude.