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[GimmieKimi]

Brawn GP fans are mainly fans cuz of Button. Anyway, looks like Button is gonna get the chop and be replaced by the German Nico.. So what happens to the Brawn GP fans. DO they stay or do they go?

If Brawn should treat Button with no respect - Button fans would be stupid to support them. Oh and it looks like Mercedes would be getting lots of fans from McLaren too.

Anyone crossing over to join the silver arrows?

[Peter Perfect]

I'll admit that I became a fan because of Button, but the team have grown on me through their transformation from BAR to Honda to Brawn. Obviously this year was especially great given the potential for the team to not even be on the grid.

Whoever Button signs with though I think I'll struggle to feel the same way about Brawn/Merc as I have for the last few years.

[acey]

Brawn GP fans are mainly fans cuz of Button. Anyway, looks like Button is gonna get the chop and be replaced by the German Nico.. So what happens to the Brawn GP fans. DO they stay or do they go?

If Brawn should treat Button with no respect - Button fans would be stupid to support them. Oh and it looks like Mercedes would be getting lots of fans from McLaren too.

Anyone crossing over to join the silver arrows?

Since I own a AMG Merc I guess I have to

[Buttoneer]

Brawn GP fans are mainly fans cuz of Button.

Brawn GP has plenty of fans, as does Ross Brawn. I'd like them to pay Button what he's after, or close enough to it that he's happy to sign, but other than that they did a remarkably good job this year and deserve the credit for it. Ross worked wonders with a team which previously only created shitboxes. Good for them.

[maccaFTW]

I became of Mercedes as a company through McLaren.

Mercedes are now my "B" team, behind McLaren. I don't really understand why they would leave such a great situation with McLaren and take on the risk of having their own team, but I support their efforts as a company.

I also have infinite respect for Ross Brawn.

Edited by maccaFTW, 16 November 2009 - 19:12.

[AMG1]

Brawn GP fans are mainly fans cuz of Button. Anyway, looks like Button is gonna get the chop and be replaced by the German Nico.. So what happens to the Brawn GP fans. DO they stay or do they go?

If Brawn should treat Button with no respect - Button fans would be stupid to support them. Oh and it looks like Mercedes would be getting lots of fans from McLaren too.

Anyone crossing over to join the silver arrows?

Well, I'm a fan of Mercedes... Only because of them i was fan of Mclaren, and then Brawn.
So now i'm fan of Mercedes GP
Own AMG car too ;)

Edited by AMG1, 16 November 2009 - 19:15.

[AdamM]

Brawn GP fans are mainly fans cuz of Button. Anyway, looks like Button is gonna get the chop and be replaced by the German Nico.. So what happens to the Brawn GP fans. DO they stay or do they go?

I was a fan of Brawn GP mainly because of Ross Brawn, the guy's a genius.

If Brawn should treat Button with no respect - Button fans would be stupid to support them.

Like the respect Jenson showed to Williams?

[Psymon]

My main support will stay with Button whichever team he ends up driving for next year.

That said, Having followed BAR/Honda/Brawn since Jenson moved there in 2003 so I'll probably retain some sort of secondary support for them if Button does move elsewhere.

Edited by Psymon, 16 November 2009 - 19:31.

[shonguiz]

Count me in, it's german and its prestige outshines any of the current brand in F1.

[jeze]

Count me in, it's german and its prestige outshines any of the current brand in F1.

Ferrari anyone

[shonguiz]

No.

[Zarathustra]

I'm a Nico fan but I still think of Brawn as the enemy after his years at Ferrari, it's hard to imagine cheering for any team with him at the helm.

[raiseyourfistfor]

If Mclaren makes another crap car I will definitely root for them over ferrari, rbr and whoever else but I hope I won't have to.

[JPW]

Just glad they severed ties with the boys from Woking, that alone is commendable in my book.

Now looking forward to epic fights between Ferrari and Mercedes in the years to come.

[P123]

Just glad they severed ties with the boys from Woking, that alone is commendable in my book.

Now looking forward to epic fights between Ferrari and Mercedes in the years to come.

Would I be correct in thinking you don't like McLaren?

In any case, they haven't severed ties completely. McLaren and Brawn have swapped roles for next season in terms of relationship with Merc.

[P123]

Ferrari anyone

Well, Mercedes were Grand Prix racing long before Ferrari....

[King Six]

I hated Brawn and their stupid fairytale crap, I used to like Button until this season. I wouldn't mind seeing him at McLaren but I'd rather not see him there.

As for Merc Works, it depends on how much the media here decide to remind us that this is the former Brawn champions and all that ****. They'll probably never shut up about the 2009 season so I'll probably end up hating Merc Works as I did Brawn, but that level of hate depends on their success too

The Media influence me alot in terms of who I like and hate. Generally in the opposite sense.

Edited by King Six, 16 November 2009 - 21:05.

[Willow Rosenberg]

Well, Mercedes were Grand Prix racing long before Ferrari....

Is that what prestige means? Because on that basis Renault have the most.

[P123]

Is that what prestige means? Because on that basis Renault have the most.

Yes, I would say Renault also have a degree of racing prestige. However it takes more than longevity. Drivers, races won, how the team presents itself (Mercedes V Auto Union)- it all adds up over the years. Ferrari, Mercedes, McLaren, Renault and Williams are all teams with prestige.

[ex Rhodie racer 2]

Just glad they severed ties with the boys from Woking, that alone is commendable in my book.

Now looking forward to epic fights between Ferrari and Mercedes in the years to come.

Me too.

[Gecko]

I am not going to become a fan of Mercedes GP, but at least I can go back to liking McLaren again.

[buh_buh]

I was a BAR fan, then a Honda fan, then a Brawn fan. But I have cheered for Button all these years, so its hard to say what'll happen if he leaves. Gut feeling says I'm going to stop watching F1 altogether.

[Enkei]

Perhaps they'll be my second best team, depends on how they handle things next year.
I reckon Mercedes GP will be comparable with their DTM challenge: Deutsche Grundlichkeit.

[Modern Lover]

I have been a Mercedes fan longer than a McLaren fan, but will support both equal. No, actually, that all depends on which drivers Mercedes gets.

Still think it is a terrible decision on both parts.

[Sausage]

I don't love em, just like Brawn. I still laugh at Honda though.

[hunnylander]

They can have P3 and P4.

I'll like their traditional livery, but won't be a fan of them.


I'll miss Nobby, good chap.

[JPW]

I'll miss Nobby, good chap.

What's to miss, Norbert Haug will be around free of numpties like Ron or Martin and joined with the very successful team principal Ross Brawn.

I think Nobby is looking forward to 2010 with great anticipation

[P123]

What's to miss, Norbert Haug will be around free of numpties like Ron or Martin and joined with the very successful team principal Ross Brawn.

I think Nobby is looking forward to 2010 with great anticipation

What is Haug's role next season? With Brawn remaining as team principal it's not as if Haug is being rewarded with a promotion for all his years of service to Mercedes.

[FlatOverCrest]

What's to miss, Norbert Haug will be around free of numpties like Ron or Martin and joined with the very successful team principal Ross Brawn.

You sound more like Mosley with every passing day!

[JPW]

What is Haug's role next season? With Brawn remaining as team principal it's not as if Haug is being rewarded with a promotion for all his years of service to Mercedes.

Ross will report to Norbert Haug, that's it.

[Tenmantaylor]

I absolutely loved the independent feel of Brawn GP this year taking on and beating the best in the business. Ive got huge respect for Mercedes and Ross Brawn but another grey livery on the grid with an all German line up wont inspire the same enthusiasm in me personally. In a blatantly nationalistic gesture my allegiance with McLaren, Hamilton and maybe Button will grow again.

[Mia 01]

I hope not that the members on this board are so sheap.

[De Jokke]

I was amazed that mercedes would do this. I'll stick with mclaren-mercedes but mercedes will be my second team which makes williams tumble down from 2nd to 3rd.

I hope merc (this time with mcl) can get the titles again next year. The new team is another force that can prevent ferrari to get another title

Edited by De Jokke, 16 November 2009 - 23:16.

[gincarnated]

All I know is thats it's going to annoy me hearing the German anthem if this team wins next year while the chassis and engines are still being built in Britain. Oh well.

[Anonymous]

No. McLaren fan forever.

[Just waiting]

Count me in, it's german and its prestige outshines any of the current brand in F1.

even ferrari.....and with ferrari in their current disarray.....Merc will blow on by

[thelastspot]

If they acquire Kimi Raikkonen, then I will stay a fan. This would mean that Merc are letting Brawn make the decisions, and also funding him properly.

It makes a ton of sense for them too, if Raikkonen's wish is to go to Redbull in a year or two, then it means he would possibly the correct bait to swap for Vettel.

[TurboF1]

I became of Mercedes as a company through McLaren.

Mercedes are now my "B" team, behind McLaren. I don't really understand why they would leave such a great situation with McLaren and take on the risk of having their own team, but I support their efforts as a company.

I also have infinite respect for Ross Brawn.

This

At least now I have two teams to support. Lewis will always be the go to guy. I really like Nico as well, and Heidfeld hasnt gotten the break he deserves. I'd love for the Mercedes works team to sign Heidfeld and he wins a race or 3 next year, as long as Lewis is WDC it'll be cool

[Birelman]

I'm a big fan of Mercedes cars, my family has 6 Mercedes at home, 1 Ferrari, 1 Porsche, 1 VW Touareg, we just love the AMGs!!!!!! GO MERC!!!!!!

[Captain Tightpants]

I'd say I'll be a fan because they were Brawn GP; I was a fan of Brawn because Buttondrove for them and I've followed Button since 2000. If Button goes to McLaren, I'll support him, but I feel McLaren has no soul and so they won't be getting any love. Mercedes will become my team while Button will stay as my driver.

[Kompressor]

Brawn GP fans are mainly fans cuz of Button. Anyway, looks like Button is gonna get the chop and be replaced by the German Nico.. So what happens to the Brawn GP fans. DO they stay or do they go?

If Brawn should treat Button with no respect - Button fans would be stupid to support them. Oh and it looks like Mercedes would be getting lots of fans from McLaren too.

Anyone crossing over to join the silver arrows?

I've been cheering for the team since 1999 when the drivers were Villeneuve and Zonta. Seeing as Button didn't join the team till 2003, I disagree with your premise. I've never been a huge Button fan. I've just been following the team and enjoying all their "firsts".

I cheered for BAR. I cheered for Honda. I cheered for Brawn GP. I'll cheer for Mercedes GP. Villeneuve's former race engineer Jock Clear is still with the team so I still feel a connection exists from the dark days.

[TurboF1]

I'd say I'll be a fan because they were Brawn GP; I was a fan of Brawn because Buttondrove for them and I've followed Button since 2000. If Button goes to McLaren, I'll support him, but I feel McLaren has no soul and so they won't be getting any love. Mercedes will become my team while Button will stay as my driver.

The second most successful grand prix team ever has no soul? I fear drivers like James Hunt, Lauda, Prost, Senna, Keke Rosberg, Hakkinen, Alonso, Raikkonen & Hamilton will massively disagree with you. That list has some of the best drivers grand prix racing has ever produced, and you know one thing they all have in common? They're all world champions. True, some of them didnt win their championships with Mclaren, but this is the caliber of driver Mclaren have fielded in the past. Remind me again of the great names BAR/Honda/Brawn have fielded. Thanks. For Mclaren to consider... or to put it bluntly, resort to Button, as he isn't their first choice seeing as they would rather take a driver that was sacked from his former team, over the current world champion says a LOT about what they think of Buttons ability. But hey, what do I know. Im just some faceless internet poster. Let the facts & history speak for themselves.

Edited by TurboF1, 17 November 2009 - 06:08.

[KiloWatt]

Before Merc joined McLaren, I disliked them. I can't completely go back to disliking them, because they'll still use their engines. But, at least I don't have to blatantly like them anymore.

I didn't want this to happen. I trust McLaren to do a good job. But now that it did happen. I will support MercGP to the death. (But please fellas. Don't do a BMW. You're better than that...)

Signed: Former Mac Supporter

Go Merc!
Achtung Baby!

EDIT:
As an aside. I'd have loved for merc to call it Merc AMG GP. Hey, now that I come to think of it, does anyone think we'll see AMG badging on the...uhm...what will they call the car?

Edited by KiloWatt, 17 November 2009 - 07:00.

[BRK]

Will still be rooting for one of the red cars(Felipe Massa),but I'm definitely a big admirer of Mercedes,and therefore a fan of Mercedes GP.


I've always thought of McLaren as being one of Ferrari's greatest rivals long before Mercedes came into the picture,so the silver arrow-McLaren connection has never worked for me (thought the Marlboros were better). Having all three of them on the grid is certainly fantastic,therefore,and the way it ought to have been!

[dabrasco]

I'd say I'll be a fan because they were Brawn GP; I was a fan of Brawn because Buttondrove for them and I've followed Button since 2000. If Button goes to McLaren, I'll support him, but I feel McLaren has no soul and so they won't be getting any love. Mercedes will become my team while Button will stay as my driver.

just because they are not your favorite team or you feel threatened by them doesnt mean you can go'head and spew such bull.

Its ironic you attack Mclaren about soul in a thread of a team that went from Tyrell to BAR to Honda to Brawn and now Merc GP. Like someone in another thread said, you can call them the paddock whore.

oh and the team only got to this stage because Mclaren did the sporting 'soul' thing and allowed Merc to supply them with engines when no one else wanted to

Ron Dennis n co could have easily done the 'soulless' thing, sell Mclaren to Mercedes and flown into the sunset wih a plane of cash...but time and time again, they resisted the takeover attempts and its only cos Mercedes realised they were never gonna get the paddock dime they decided to settle for the paddock *fill in the word*

someone has already talked bout the Mclaren heritage of drivers...more, they were the team that decided to put faith in a 12 yr old kid of african descent in a sport totally dominated by white males, nurture him, put him in the car...oh and he won a WDC while at it (no affirmative action here)

even in things like sponsorship...they have some of the longest running partners in F1 history

we can go on and on as to why ur remark is utter trite but this aint the place for it

basically if Mclaren is soulless, then all the other teams on the grid bar Ferrari are as hollow n pointless as a old box filled wit cobwebs


I have nothing against Merc. GP by the way...yes wont be a fan, but excited at the prospect of what they can do over the next years... hope they dont do a BMW once the results dont start coming in.

Edited by dabrasco, 17 November 2009 - 08:38.

[TurboF1]

just because they are not your favorite team or you feel threatened by them doesnt mean you can go'head and spew such bull.

Its ironic you attack Mclaren about soul in a thread of a team that went from Tyrell to BAR to Honda to Brawn and now Merc GP. Like someone in another thread said, you can call them the paddock whore.

oh and the team only got to this stage because Mclaren did the sporting 'soul' thing and allowed Merc to supply them with engines when no one else wanted to

Ron Dennis n co could have easily done the 'soulless' thing, sell Mclaren to Mercedes and flown into the sunset wih a plane of cash...but time and time again, they resisted the takeover attempts and its only cos Mercedes realised they were never gonna get the paddock dime they decided to settle for the paddock *fill in the word*

someone has already talked bout the Mclaren heritage of drivers...more, they were the team that decided to put faith in a 12 yr old kid of african descent in a sport totally dominated by white males, nurture him, put him in the car...oh and he won a WDC while at it (no affirmative action here)

even in things like sponsorship...they have some of the longest running partners in F1 history

we can go on and on as to why ur remark is utter trite but this aint the place for it

basically if Mclaren is soulless, then all the other teams on the grid bar Ferrari are as hollow n pointless as a old box filled wit cobwebs


I have nothing against Merc. GP by the way...yes wont be a fan, but excited at the prospect of what they can do over the next years... hope they dont do a BMW once the results dont start coming in.

Only someone supremely ill informed on the history of F1 would perceive Mclaren as "soulless". The idea is laughable. Only Ferrari can claim to have a richer heritage, with Williams in a not so close third. The ghost of Ken Tyrrell has long since departed the halls of the current Brawn GP/Mercedes team. I'm glad they had a new identity in Ross, as he is a legend in his own right, however, MGP/Silver Arrows will start its own history anew in the new epoch of grand prix racing.

Lol I feel all "Shakespeary" after that rant

[RiDE]

I will join the bandwagon for Mercedes GP. It seems like people in F1 can't pull out of it fast enough these days but Mercedes just went all in.

[tze]

Brawn GP fans are mainly fans cuz of Button.

There is an interesting editorial in this month's EVO magazine where the writer queries the sanity of those F1 fans who support a Team rather than a Driver; he theorises that he can at least understand driver fans as they bring a human element to the sport; and but for Ferrari, he cannot comprehend team fanaticism or support.

I for one am in an absolute dilemma. I have always been a Honda fan both from a road car and F1 perspective; with my fanaticism being derived a) from the company's and founder's previous love of motorsport; and b) the innovative roadcars that they brought through NSX, TYpe-Rs - where the joy of revving a car to 8000rpm+ first started. I admit they definitely hit a hump recently not only in F1 (with the pull out), but also in their roadcar division having dropped all driver vehicles from their lineup.

I was an avid supporter this year of Brawn, in recognition of the Honda team DNA that was still in this year's car/chassis not withstanding the Merc-engine being installed - and it was a joy to see Button finally come through. Now however, I am in an utter dillema with Mercedes Benz acquiring this team - I just cannot bring myself to continue to support them as a manufacturer team as there is no way I would be purchasing one of their vehicles ever (perhaps an old gull wing)!!!

Such a complicated time it is..

[Kompressor]

There is an interesting editorial in this month's EVO magazine where the writer queries the sanity of those F1 fans who support a Team rather than a Driver; he theorises that he can at least understand driver fans as they bring a human element to the sport; and but for Ferrari, he cannot comprehend team fanaticism or support.

I can't imagine a football fan dropping his team in order to follow his favourite player from team to team. Drivers retire more often than teams fold. Something has to attract you to the sport and hold your interest for the duration. The BAR, Honda, Brawn GP and Mercedes GP story has been very entertaining over the years.

[Anonymous]

I'm a big fan of Mercedes cars, my family has 6 Mercedes at home, 1 Ferrari, 1 Porsche, 1 VW Touareg, we just love the AMGs!!!!!! GO MERC!!!!!!

Rly? Any pics?