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[Brian O Flaherty]

It's always slightly worrying when a company has an 'ethics' section. Why would you need one if you weren't doing anything wrong

It's a bit like a person having a certificate of sanity...

[wingwalker]

Is this smelling like Bernie vs Todt war to anyone else?

Edited by wingwalker, 03 March 2010 - 23:33.

[Slowinfastout]

Is this smells like Bernie vs Todt war to anyone else?

Yep, subtle but strong clues..

[Radoye]

I think AMCO were claiming on their website that they're producing parts for german UAVs and the real manufacturers weren't too happy about that.

They were claiming on their website they're producing many things that they actually don't/didn't produce.

[EthanM]

Is this smells like Bernie vs Todt war to anyone else?

no it smells like Bernie mentioned StefanGP once to put some urgency in the Campos/USF1 situations. He really doesn't care about 2 more cars when he's got 24 of them

[ensign14]

Is this smelling like Bernie vs Todt war to anyone else?

Or Bernie punishing the US for the Indy debacle?

[katmen]

Is this smells like Bernie vs Todt war to anyone else?

yes

it could be interesting, in case sauber will not get sufficient money, because lack of sponsorship money and folding in mid season

due diligence by fia OMG

[katmen]

no it smells like Bernie mentioned StefanGP once to put some urgency in the Campos/USF1 situations. He really doesn't care about 2 more cars when he's got 24 of them

i think that he should care since he promised to promoters certain number of cars...

[Talryyn]

Who gives a toss about that nonsense... at worst it's funny.

Peter Brock was a legend in racing despite the 'Energy Polarizer' nonsense... lol

I saw something like this last year in the US, magnets on your fuel line or something, wonderful gadget! Also some goofy thing you stick in your airbox to cause a vortex to atomize the fuel better.

[EthanM]

i think that he should care since he promised to promoters certain number of cars...

he promised to deliver at least 16 of them

[Clatter]

i think that he should care since he promised to promoters certain number of cars...

How many did he promise then?

[dau]

They were claiming on their website they're producing many things that they actually don't/didn't produce.

But until now, nobody seems to have taken legal action against them.

Wow, that website is epic. Love the "Our Culture" section.

"Rule number 2- DON’T TAKE OUR WORD FOR ANYTHING,"

You seriously couldn't make this stuff up.

[katmen]

he promised to deliver at least 16 of them

may be it was changed after 26 cars grid was announced by fia.... and promoters begin to adapt pits owww so damage for money investing to pit places for not participating teams...

[Radoye]

But until now, nobody seems to have taken legal action against them.

Likely they didn't even noticed he existed.

[Xaus]

Who gives a toss about that nonsense... at worst it's funny.

Peter Brock was a legend in racing despite the 'Energy Polarizer' nonsense... lol

Yeah, well, I don't know about you but I consider a legend-turned-kook-turned-legend to be far more credible on my scale of things than a shyster.

[Talryyn]

Oh wait, Stefan has 7 wind tunnels - and a picture of the wright flyer.

Is this an F40 with a VW Bug in the middle of it all?

Edited by Talryyn, 03 March 2010 - 23:49.

[Clatter]

may be it was changed after 26 cars grid was announced by fia.... and promoters begin to adapt pits owww so damage for money investing to pit places for not participating teams...

No the contracted number of cars is 16, and they have not had to adapt pits as there are already more than enough garages. Race circuits host more than just F1, and many series have far bigger fields.

[EthanM]

Likely they didn't even noticed he existed.

When we first heard of stefan making a ruckus back in September I think there were * a lot* more weird pictures in their website, many of them disappeared. If you 're really bored you can browse through one of the FIA sued by stefan threads and see them referenced a lot.

[Eff One 2002]

And also, Jacques Villeneuve can't humiliate himself anymore.

You're like a dog with a bone. You have already been comprehensively put in your place over this on various occasions and shown no ability whatsoever to convincingly debate the reasons for your plain inaccurate statements. It is you that continues to humiliate yourself with inaccurate claims with nothing better to back up these claims other than the "I say it so it's true" mentality.

[katmen]

No the contracted number of cars is 16, and they have not had to adapt pits as there are already more than enough garages. Race circuits host more than just F1, and many series have far bigger fields.

it is based from old concorde agreement?

it is pity that this data is not sufficiently transparently available... it smells fishy

problem with pits is in monaco so adaptation required for f1 standards...

[Clatter]

it is based from old concorde agreement?

it is pity that this data is not sufficiently transparently available... it smells fishy

problem with pits is in monaco so adaptation required for f1 standards...

Nope, even in Monaco there are enough garages.

[Xaus]

it is based from old concorde agreement?

it is pity that this data is not sufficiently transparently available... it smells fishy

problem with pits is in monaco so adaptation required for f1 standards...

Uh, if you hadn't noticed, Moanco has been using a rather large and modern pits for a while now. Squeezing in there is no longer an issue.

The only pits that were mentioned as being an issue would have been Interlagos and even then I don't think it would come close to being as bad as how the old Monaco was and they managed.

[Radoye]

Is this an F40 with a VW Bug in the middle of it all?

http://translate.goo...?hl=e.../6/1/2/

the second last paragraph.

The car was built on the basis of a Zastava 750 (locally produced Fiat 600 variant) with parts salvaged from a crashed Alfa Romeo 155ST by Boban Atanackovic in his Centar Boban tuning service

http://www.centarbobantuning.com/

[Mox]

Let's be realistic here. Letting Stefan GP start in Bahrain would be like letting me start in the world cup finals based on me buying Maradona's old soccer boots.

Owning the remains of the Toyota outfit, even including staff and factory, does not an F1 team make.

They would have 8 days, with no testing opportunity, to field 2 cars, which so far has been seen by nobody, driven by 2 drivers that hasn't signed yet - or maybe they have, or not.

They would very likely be complete arse, and then FIA would be to blame for pushing too hard to field cars that in the end turn out to create dangerous situations, for themselves and everyone else.

Already, the Virgin and Lotus teams have been struggling during testing and look to be quite a bit off the pace.

The Campos Meta Kolles Hispania HRT team are already facing the challenge that Stefan GP would be facing and could easily risk looking like ridiculous amateurs only 8 days from now. As of now, they are still short a driver.

Does formula1 really need a grid containing 8 back markers that create more chaos than racing during the race weekends?

From where I stand, the FIA did the right thing by not allowing USF1 a 4-race (or season) stay, and an even better thing, by not replacing them with an outfit that has shown no more readyness than HRT. Stefan GP has had every opportunity to show their car(s), even IF they had no tyres to test on. But they have shown nothing. Everything has been shrouded and based on intentions. But so far, it has been the Emperors new clothes!

It has probably taken a lot of guts for the FIA to eventually accept the conclusion that USF1 wasn't going to make it despite constant claims from the team, that they were on course. To finally cut them, only to hand the entry to another team that has made the same constant claims, yet have shown no more than USF1 did, would be foolish at best.

Personally, I still doubt that HRT will make the grid in Bahrain, and I won't be too disappointed if they don't (although I, as many others, would love to see more teams on the grid).

Settling for 12 teams and announcing the opportunity to apply for the 2011 season was the right call. If Stefan GP is serious, they can apply for entry, and so can Lola, Epsilon Euskadi and other teams. Should HRT keel over, there might even be 2 spots open on the 2011 grid. Let's try to get the best entries in there, and not just the first that claim to be ready.

Edited by Mox, 04 March 2010 - 00:28.

[farsailor]

Let's be realistic here. Letting Stefan GP start in Bahrain would be like letting me start in the world cup finals based on me buying Maradona's old soccer boots.

no.

[Mox]

no.

Yes. You haven't seen how well I play in them, and I can easily claim to be ready, able and willing. Very much like the reality of Stefan GP at the moment.

[FigJam]

And also, Jacques Villeneuve can't humiliate himself anymore.

Don't worry mate....Jacques has left that for you.

I'd say your a World Champion in that field. Congratulations.

[ForeverF1]

Guys, we have 61 pages of conjecture on the question posed by the thread title. The FIA has now answered this question.

Conversation on the subject of Stephan GP, can, of course, continue here.