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[Boniver]

A question of my friend Quintin Cloud,1912 Targa Florio
25-26 May - Giro di Sicilia: 1 lap x 1094.5 km = 1094.5 km

Pole position: N/A
Fastest Lap: N/A

Results:

1 Cyril Snipe - Pedrini SCAT 24:37'19"2
2 Garetto - Guglielminetti Lancia 25:07'38"6
3 Giuseppe Giordano - Ascone Fiat 25:41'04"6
4 De Marues - Ostengo Deutz 25:52'08"6
5 Luigi Lopex - Tirreno Fiat 25:56'57"2
6 Eraldo Fracassi - Gugliazzo Ford 26:12'43"0
7 Norman Olsen - Travaglia Lancia 27:24'26"4
8 Constantino Trombetta - Trombetta Fiat 27:45'20"0
9 Paolo Arnone - Rizzo Isotta Fraschini 30:30'14"4
10 Cravero - Bellini Florio
11 De Prosperis - Maravigna Sigma
12 Losa - Catalano Nazzaro
13 Lombardo - Lombardo Overland
14 Conti - Raineri Isotta Franschini
15 Primavesi - Indenni Primavesi

Note:

11 drivers did not finish

tell me you do not have the
names of the
11 drivers who did not finish the Targa Florio ?

[Hans Etzrodt]

1912 Targa Florio, drivers who DNF
[list]
[*]Ceirano (SCAT)
[*]Zavagno (FIAT)
[*]Vanucci (FIAT)
[*]De Matteo (Isotta Fraschini)
[*]Sandonnino (SCAT)
[*]Berra (De Dion)
[*]Florio (Mercedes)
[*]Carreca (Metz)
[*]Sordi (Florentina)
[*]Baldoni (Alfa Romeo)
[*]La Farso (FIAT)

[Boniver]

Hans,
I have the idea, and the feeling that you know
everything,
and what a quichness, ...... bip ...bip ...
no.......... vrom........vrom........
thanks,

[Hans Etzrodt]

Boniver,
read the last two lines at the bottom of all my posts. This statement applies to me as well.

[dbw]

would the Deutz of 1912 still be related to the Ettore Bugatti design of 1909??..perhaps a good place to mention a 1300cc bugatti finished 2ed to a megaliter fiat in the 1911 french grand prix.....[ok,so they were the only cars running at the finish..but a 2ed is still a 2ed!]

[quintin cloud]

Hi guys

Thanks for your help with the 1912 Targa Florio

Regards

[Felix Muelas]

Originally posted by Hans Etzrodt
Boniver,
read the last two lines at the bottom of all my posts. This statement applies to me as well.

Yes, Hans, sure. But in a lesser degree...
;)

Un abrazo,

Felix

[Dennis David]

Hey Hans did you ever receive my check?

[alessandro silva]

For the sake of completeness and to correct some errors.

Times of finishers from 10th to 15th:

10 Cravero - Bellini Florio 30:41'29"2
11 De Prosperis - Maravigna Sigma 31:42'51"4
12 Losa - Catalano Nazzaro 32:16'26"6
13 Lombardo - Lombardo Overland 33:09'33"0
14 Conti - Raineri Isotta Franschini 33:33'07"8 Please note the correct spelling: Ranieri, Fraschini
15 Primavesi - Indenni Primavesi 39:24'00"0 " " " : Indennii

I have also 1......24:37'19"8
4......25:50'08"6 Please note the correct spelling: De Moraes
5......25:56'37"2 " " " : Lopez
8......29:45'20"0 " " " : Costantino

Co-drivers (such as: Insalaco, Airoldi, L'Huiller etc), not necessarily all riding mechanics:
+ Ceirano- Ricciardi (SCAT) broken axle
+ Zavagno- Insalaco (FIAT)
+ De Matteo-Chiesa (Isotta Fraschini)
+ Sandonnino-Livizzano (SCAT)
+ Berra-Ziano (De Dion-Bouton)
+ Airoldi - Florio (Mercedes) left the road, damaged front axle
+ Carreca - Carreca (Metz)
+ Sordi-Ottolini (Florentia)
+ Baldoni-Masi (ALFA) [Alfa Romeo did not exist in 1912!!!!]
+ La Farso - L'Huiller (FIAT) Please note the correct spelling: Lo Faro

I have: Vanucci-Sabatini (Itala) Please note the correct spelling: Vannucci

My data should be safe.

There is an annoying ever growing number of mispellings of Italian words and names in recent motoring literature in English. Since this accounts for the 90% of all that it is printed in our subject, it is too much. There is not a single mispelling of Italian, German, French or Latin (yes!) word in Pomeroy's book (1955), for instance.
I hope that, at least for names, this habit will not spread itself in this Forum also.

[Hans Etzrodt]

Originally posted by Dennis David
Hey Hans did you ever receive my check?

Dennis,
Your check never arrived. Sorry.

[Boniver]

Alessandro

Thanks,

[Ray Bell]

Must get a Latin spell checker installed...

Is this right, 1094.5km for a single lap?
Old Florio did know how to set up a Targa, didn't he... might it properly have been termed a trial, then?