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[Hairpin]

The thing is, the legend about his god-like stature is an exaggeration just the same as the legend that paints him as the root of all evil in racing.

If you look beneath the hype on both counts, all that's left is an exceptionally skillful and passionate driver who sometimes crossed the boundaries of fair racing. Sometimes, but on closer look not that much more than the majority of his peers.

Of course that's not half as exciting to the general public as "Magic Senna" or "Senna, the asassin on wheels".

That was my point. Threads like this exist because the reality is not enough. He was good, he was bad. Until his death, he was also mortal.

Edited by Hairpin, 22 August 2010 - 20:43.

[hotstickyslick]

Again, i'm afriad your methodology of analysing the incidents in question appear to lack any form of logic or sense.

The Raikkonen incident is a completely different situation because:

Lewis overtook Raikkonen on the straight, and it was way, way before the corner itself and Lewis was heading for a peice of track that was empty and which Raikkonen was not commited to already.

But he was.

Raikkonen would have been guilty of blocking if he suddenly changed line to prevent Lewis from going through.

By whom? I think it would actually have been Hamilton being blamed for a move from too far back.

Lewis car was parallel to Raikkonen's 50 metres before the actual corner way before the point where Raikkonen would want to turn the car towards the apex.

But he was turning in already.

M Schumacher was not even level with Senna's rear wing when Senna was already turning for the genuine apex which means the corner was already Senna's. M Schumacher was nowhere near close enough to even have an argument which is why Benetton refused to protest the move. Don't you think they would have protested if they felt they even had half a case? Benetton and McLaren were huge rivals in 1993 especially regarding the Ford engine.

What matters was that Senna knew that Schumacher was hounding him, like Senna was to Prost in Suzuka 1989. Either they didn't expect the move to happen or they were intentionally blocking.

I must say, i've never heard such a far-fetched pie in the sky case as the one you are attempting to present. ;-) Funny stuff though.

Not with you.

[aditya-now]

That was my point. Threads like this exist because the reality is not enough. He was good, he was bad. Until his death, he was also mortal.

And after his death he became immortal.

[aditya-now]

After both threads (Dirty driving by Senna, Schumacher) have played out for two days or so, it is interesting to see the kind of posts both threads drew, and what the consensus, blaming and defending is in the one and in the other thread. It was a great experiment to put up both threads and it worked!

Man, man, it definitely showed something beyond what was discussed topic-wise.

[stevewf1]

I remember reading a quote from Eddie Cheever about Senna: "That man is going to find a very hard wall someday"...

[Buttoneer]

Please keep the Raikkonen chat to a minimum please. He has nothing at all to do with Senna.

[mel]

The thread starter is clear that this is a thread about Senna only in which case it should be in TNF. Enjoy.

[noikeee]

The thread starter is clear that this is a thread about Senna only in which case it should be in TNF. Enjoy.

Yes!

Come on TNF, give us your opinions in this very very serious debate.

[D-Type]

Yes!

Come on TNF, give us your opinions in this very very serious debate.

This topic has been done to death on TNF. I feel that none of the regulars has anything to add to what has already been said.Do a search for something like "Senna AND Prost", "Senna AND Suzuka" "Senna AND Schumacher" or whatever and it will turn up pages and pages, enough for maybe 3 days' reading.

[Stephen W]

Shut it down! It is repetitive and far from original.

[Twin Window]

Yep, all gone over before.

It's search engine time for those new to the topic...