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[FredF1]

Donnie.
I reckon the second version of F1 Championship is better. The first version is far too twitchy for the game pad.

Yep GGG,
Noticed the tyre thingie - a right curse too. At least the PS1 version allowed you a preview of the weather. I lost the prototype championship due to having slicks on a wet track.
Anyone else notice that 1st corner at Brno?
It seems to make the car spin for no apparent reason. No matter how many times I try to repro it - it never happens until I'm racing along and BANG! I'm sideways. Dead weird that.
Enjoy your laptime busting!

[Eau Red]

GGG-

i haven't been playing the game for a month or so (been doing F1 Racing Championship instead...), but if people are interested maybe we could get a laptime competition here. my best was a high 3:33 in the Sauber.

also, i agree-- that last sector (Porsche curves) is the key to a fast lap. with more setup options, you could probably get it so you didn't have to slide the car so much in there... but that would be the easy way out, right?

[goGoGene]

Yes, the last sector is the trick. So when plugging in my Ferrari Wheel there seemed to have been a problem, and my memory pack reset, DOH! It'll be a bit before I can get those cars back, So where do you get the Sauber? I had the BMW, and the Merc-CLK, and the Toyota (it'd be cool if you could win a 917 or a 1920's Bentley). I'd be up for a fast lap kind of thing Eau Red, give me a week to get some cars (I need the BMW at least, so I'll have to win the championship again)

So where do you win this wonderful Sauber that you speak of?

ggg

[FredF1]

GGG,

I won the Sauber by winning the intermediate sportscar championship. It's purple coloured.

[goGoGene]

I've switched to intermediate to win all the championships, I did it in expert last time, and it took a while. It appears that intermediate or expert win the same two cars, so this will be quicker. Did you do the 3:33 at Le Mans in intermediate or expert? I've only run it in expert because I really want to learn how to race it at it's hardest level, intermediate allowes me to pass too easily, and the car is a bit too forgiving, the snap-oversteer just feels more realistic to me, where as intermediate in the championships usually result in a 30 second gap to 2nd place. So next week lets start posting some times, I should have all the cars back again by then.

So FredF1, what do you think of the tire wear in this game, it is brutal! I find it interesting that in some of the championships I did better to let cars pass me and conserve my tires so that I could pit later. Funny, because I'd win without hardly seeing another car I'd be way behind them, but then after the pits I'd get out in front and open up a huge gap on the fresh rubber. Very well done, technically speaking.

Now that I have the Ferrari wheel I need to set up a seat that allows me to use the peddles, and then use the manual transmission, then I'll start to work towards winning Le Mans!

ggg

[Eau Red]

I was going to say I got the Sauber from winning the 6-hr Le Mans race, but Fred might be right... I would have to check on that. That race took me about a week to finish. I can't make myself do the 24-hr race. The cars you get for winning that race are the only ones I don't have... one of them is another Toyota or something, but I'm not sure what the other is. It looks kind of crazy, in the silhouette picture.

The 3:33 was in expert mode. I've actually found that I'm faster in expert than in intermediate... I guess I let the car slide a bit in corners, and you can't really do that in intermediate. And yeah, in intermediate the other cars are way too slow.

[FredF1]

Eau Red,

You're right!!

It WAS by winning the 24hrs race (In Intermediate Mode). No, I'm not that sad.;)
It took about a week - I just saved it every time I pitted and continued the following day.

To be honest, I haven't played the game for a month or so. I kept meaning to do the 24hrs in Expert Mode - but just couldn't decide which car to drive. I want to drive the BMW prototype but I just can't shake off any of the cars I pass when it comes to the Mulsanne - They're all over me and then I have to fight my way back by outbraking into the chicanes and getting a brief lead before it all happens again! If I pick the Toyota, I can leave 'em for dead on the straights but lose all my advantage in the twisty bits.
The Sauber seems like a compromise between the two.

[goGoGene]

What is the Mercedes CLK like, it seemed to be a compromise as well, but I only got to race it once, and was just screwing around.

I'm cheating a bit by racing in intermediate to get the cars back that I had, then I'll switch back to expert.

Fred, I know what you mean about the BMW, I find the only way to make up places is in the last sector, the straights and Mulsanne are tough to stay ahead. I find the Panoz's to be dirty drivers, so qualifying ahead of them helps.

I'm saving the expert le mans races for last, after I've won everything else. Eau, interesting that you said the expert was quicker, I was thinking that last night. You can hear that the power cuts out if you turn the streering wheel too much, and I know that I'd be able to at least be pulsing a little bit of throttle through the corners.

Well I'm up the to prototypes (I can only fit one championship and one time time per evening). Do any of you have any ideas what sort of challenges we can have for eachother. There is of course fastest lap at Le Sarth, dry and wet. What position we can get to, starting from the back of the grid. I'd like to keep le Sarthe as expert only, and I think that I'll force myself to use the manual transmission (even though it's probably a disadvantage), now that I have wheel and peddles, shame that there isn't a controller config that allows the Ferrari wheel to use the F1 style flipper paddles to be the shifter

ggg

[Eau Red]

The Sauber and the Jaguar both seem to have quite a bit more power than any of the other cars. They're also geared higher. It doesn't feel quite right using them in a race, though, since they're from the wrong era (late 80s/early 90s as opposed to '96-'99 like most of the others).

I found the Mercedes to be somewhere between the BMW and Toyota in terms of speed and handling, i.e faster than the BMW on straights, but doesn't handle quite as well. My car of choice is generally the BMW.

I assume you guys are using the lowest wing setting and low fuel to go for fast laps at Le Mans?

GGG- I think manual transmission is faster than automatic... particularly in those final curves, where the automatic transmission can get a little confused and slow you down by making too many shifts. I have an Act Labs wheel, which lets you use the shift paddles, so I guess that helps.

[goGoGene]

Yes, low wings and lowest fuel. I did some tests and it really does seem that at the expert car is faster than the intermediate. I was using the autoTransmission both times. I'm starting to use the shift buttons on the hub of the wheel, I'm starting to get the hang of it.

Other tracks seem to favor mid-wings, but Le Sarthe's long straights negate any last sector benefits.

With the intermediate level BMW w/ AT, I could only get like a 3:39, I'll need to work on that this week. So expert MT it is.

ggg

[Earthling]

I have the game too on both the PSX and the DC.
I only played the championship in the PSX and have reached the GT1 class. The 24 hour race in it sux major though...

All i did in the DC version which is way cooler is the 24 Hour race so far. Still havent played Championship and havent uncovered any cars. But now that ive read about all the stuff that im missing, i will wait a bit on playing the 24 race to play with the champ series.

1 thing i liked about the PS version is the tighter handling of the cars than the way they are in on the DC.

Still the DC version kills the PS 1.

[goGoGene]

If anyone is interested, the Guilemont DC steering wheel is on a sell out special (you all know that DC is dead now, right?) $29.99. I got it and it's a really nice wheel with peddles. Smooth action, buttons have a nice feel, wheel paddles (behind the wheel) feel good. My only problem is that Le Mans dosn't have a settinf to use the paddles as a shifter while using the peddles, but the buttons on th efront of the wheel work well for that mode, so I guess it's ok.

http://shop.guillemo...N/catalogs/1030

get it while you can!

ggg

[goGoGene]

so I got the Merc CLK-GT1 back (1:35.7xx at le mans) and I made sure that it was saved and everything, raced a bit more and then shut off the DC. Guess what, the next time I turned it on I lost everything AGAIN!

Has anyone else had this problem? I seem to be having a problem with saving. Ant hints?

ggg

[HappyDude]

new memory card?

[FredF1]

GGG,

Have you set the options to save?
It's button 'A' I think?
You should be able to tell because it puts up a 'Saving Game' screen after you complete any races, qualifying sessions etc.

I have a similar problem with 'Hidden & Dangerous' but I put that down to the fact of having so many command button combinations that it just gets confused - especially in 'Map' mode.
The game just locks up and I have to restart the DC - losing all my unsaved progress.

[goGoGene]

Man, I've now become a Le Mans trouble shooter!

I have checked out that the VMU does still have the memory saved, two games as a matter of fact (turned on DC w/o a game in it to just look into the VMU).

I do press "A" at the start of the games, but thanks for asking the question.

I can gain cars in the championship mode, and save the games. I can also save a le mans 24 race as well. The problem seems to occur when I try to either a) save my race wins from quick races, or b) win the le mans track time trial car.

I also found that if I set a new lap record in time trial mode I also "lose" my memory.

Obviously I'm not losing anything, since I seem to still be able to find it in diagnostic mode, but Test Drive LM seems unable to find it on the VMU, and the VMU is totally empty except for the 17 and 12 units of memory taken up by the two saved games that are still in there.

I'm confused, I think I'll go to IGN and see if there is any talk about this problem.

If you have any ideas...

ggg

[FredF1]

GGG,

Sounds possible.
Being in the software testing business, there's lots of little bits like that which get through the system. Weird combinations that nobody could predict would happen.
Tried taking the BMW for a couple of quick laps earlier to see if I could get down to your times.
(Un)fortunately have been to the pub for a few well-needed post work beers with the team. Not in peak driving condition.

[FredF1]

GGG,

Right, more sober tonight.;)

Le Mans circuit.

Sauber in Expert Time Trial mode
Auto gears + Gamepad

3:36.806

I know it's good for another or second or so. Just can't seem to hook up a decent lap.

[FredF1]

Back again.

Right GGG,

Same setup as above - 3:32.935

I've still a few tenths or so to go as I backed off a bit for the twisty bits in case I put it in the wall.

Did the 24hrs Race in 1 hour mode in Intermediate and unlocked the Peugeot 905 too.
It's got amazing acceleration but it's a bitch to stop though. The handling isn't up to the Sauber either.

[goGoGene]

I seem to have sorted out that my main VMU(called ggg) has "issues" I have a second (called tanja) which is working fine, so now I'm finally working my way up, so I need to get that Sauber it appears, since my best BMW time is 1:35.7xx.

The peugeot sounds like a challenge, sort of like the toyota, another car that I've been wanting to tame.

So Fred...you gonna watch Le Mans this weekend, tanja and I are going to record the full 24 hours

ggg

[FredF1]

Watch Le Mans???
Of course!
Eurosport won't be showing all 24hrs unfortunately - Enough to make it worthwhile though.;)

Yep, the Sauber seems to be the car to have.
Still having trouble with it in 24hr mode.
Can't decide whether to go with medium or low downforce. Full tanks ain't helping either.
I got up to 215mph on the first section of the Mulsanne - about 10 mph quicker than the BMW.
Mind you, I seem to have 'lost' my Toyota
I've won it before but now it seems to have vanished.

[goGoGene]

Lost the Toyota? Weird. Boy that Sauber sounds deadly fast, I'll need to work towards winning that. So tanja won the open-cockpit Audi last night, she was very proud, her first time playing my new obsession.

I'll continue working toward the Sauber tonight, now that this VMU seems to be behaving.

Speedvision has all 24 hours, tanja and I will be taping it ALL! Saddly Fox seems to have bought speedvision, so I'm not sur ethat this "all 24 hours" thing will happen again next year.

Next stop le mans sub 3:32.9 ;)

ggg

[FredF1]

Next stop le mans sub 3:32.9

Sounds like a gauntlet being flung down to me!

Nah, I don't know where I pulled that lap from.

I did the first section in 0:39.XXX and couldn't understand where all that speed had come from. As I said before - I took the twisty bits a tad cautiously - I was figuring that I was on for a 3:35.2 something.

I can hit the 3:36 - 3:37's ok but never dipped under until THAT lap. Still can't even come close to it. I'm hoping it's not just a fluke of the game.

I'm not quite happy about the timing system on the game - I was qualifying for Le Mans yesterday and did a good time - Or so I thought - when the results came up - I'd been given a time which was 2 seconds slower than the one I'm certain I did.

I noticed this happening in the F1 game as well.

[jlove]

FYI - you can preview the weather before starting the race....
In the final screen before the race where you can chose to race or go to the garage, there is a very small icon on the race option (in the same place as the gears on the setup option) that shows you the weather....took me ages to spot it though!!

(haven't played the game for a while so the description may be a little bit wrong....)

[goGoGene]

Thanks jlove, I'll check that out tonight.

So FredF1, I have some bad news for you...Silk Cut Jaguar, at Le Mans...

3:31.114

This car is seriously fast, I know that I can go sub-3:30 with it. I've yet to win the Sauber.

ggg

p.s. by the way, my first run of the Jag I spun it (360deg) at the hairpin at the far end of the track. My time 3:35.4xx, yes I beat me previous fastest lap with a spin. That was when I figured I shant be using the BMW for fastest lap times:)

[Eau Red]

aghh, i've lost some of my skills... i played a little last night and i was in the 3:38s in the BMW (i wanted to use that car before i switched to the fast ones... like swinging a baseball bat with a weight on it). about a second off in the first sector, and then i never really got the last turns quite right either. my times made me depressed and i never switched to the other cars.

ggg- i think the jaguar and the sauber are about equally fast. even the same weird engine noise. the jag & sauber just feel like they have way more power than anything else. well, as much as a video game car can feel that way.

ok, i have my work cut out for me. i'll be back.

[FredF1]

GGG,

How did you win the jag?

I noticed last night that I DO have the Toyota for Le Mans but not for the Time Trials

Also, when qualifying for Le Mans with the Sauber - it's much quicker than when doing the Time Trial - even though I keep the same settings.
There can't be THAT much extra fuel in the tank it TT mode. Alright so I have it on 'continuous' setting - but still.

Re: The REAL Le Mans.
Eurosport are doing a week long build up - including showing the 'Classic' race on Saturday - Cars from 1949-1964 - Can't wait!!
Plus they're showing a history of the race tonight.

[goGoGene]

The Jag is won by winning all of the quick races, I just did them all on a saturday in intermediate level...damn it I just wanted to know what car I got.

FredF1, what are your fuel consumption settings, that might account for the faster times. The Le Mans race varies with different duration of race. Another one of those things you learn crusing through the menus, think that it's in options/game.

Wierd about the toyota, I don't have it yet, I am working my way through the championship. Last night I thought I'd give the open-LPM championship a go in expert mode, after two races I had 3 points guess I still have a lot to learn.

I've yet to start a Le Mans race, which I'm only going to race in Expert mode, so I don't expect to win right off the bat, but I really want it to be tough and realistic, i.e. cars and drivers tough to beat.

Re: the real Le Mans, that is cool about the classic car race, speedvision won't have that, and a nice documentary on Le Mans would be cool, always thought that that would be a documentary worth making.

Eau Red, I like the bat/weight analogy It's funny though, the jag has very different turn in points, and you can do som egreat understeer (under breaking) and over steer (with throttle) that just can't be done with the BMW. So don't get too messed up with the BMW.
One thing that I've learned that helps lap times is the turn in on the first fast right hander, just after Dunlap, is at the over head signage keep the throttle planted and turn quickly all the way to the right. Seems like you'll go off, but instead you come out at about 130mph!

ggg

[Eau Red]

ok, getting better... a few mid 3:33 laps with the Sauber. I never got it quite right all the way through, so there's definitely more time to come there. Also, I decided the Sauber is better than the Jag. You can brake noticibly later, and it also handles better. Easy to steer with the throttle. Plus, in the Sauber, you get to be Schumacher or Frentzen (in his mullet days), and who drove the Jag... Martin Brundle?

So what were your sector times? On my faster laps it looked like 39.x in the first sector, and then 1:58.x in the second. And around 2:36 in the third, althought I don't usually look at that time, since they flash it at you as you're going through that 90 degree corner. They should really show your times after you're done, so you have a little time to look at them.

Fred- I have two of the three available Toyotas, and I have the same problem-- I can only use them at Le Mans races, not in the time trials or at any other track. Maybe it's supposed to be that way, since I don't think Toyota raced those cars anywhere else.

[FredF1]

Started Le Mans in Expert Mode, Variable Weather - last night driving a Toyota.
Pissing rain and I went for Intermediate Tyres and Medium Downforce - A bit hairy in the twisty bits, but I leave everyone else for dead on the straights. No chance of giving a free tow to anyone.
Just got to the first pitstop in 3rd place - Tyres were in bits.


Checked back through my 'Results' and it states that I haven't done the full race before!!
I did the bloody thing in intermediate mode a few months ago - That's where the Sauber came from!!!

jlove - Thanks a heap!!
I never even noticed that little 'weather icon' before!!!

[goGoGene]

Hey, it looks like my best time would put me on pole for this years Le Mans. Kinda cool that the times are so close to the real times.

ggg

[FredF1]

Hey, it looks like my best time would put me on pole for this years Le Mans. Kinda cool that the times are so close to the real times.

As long as you make it to the finish line then.

I'll be cheering for you.


Err, am racing Le Mans 24hrs in Expert mode in the Toyota - Am leading - Have gotten to the 2nd pitstop with 1:30 over the 2nd placed car. Thing is.... There's no way I'm ever going to lose this race now is there? That's another 21 and a half hours to go without any serious challenge.

This looks like the DC game has the same problem that the PS1 game had - Namely, when any of the AI cars came upon backmarkers, they slowed to a crawl and just hung around behind them.
I got into 2nd place - noticed that the lead car was 37 seconds ahead - then I saw a pack of slower cars ahead on the little circuit layout - within a lap, it was down to 16 seconds and a lap later I was right behind it. The AI cars seem to just pull alongside a lapped car and drag race it instead of the smart option of getting a tow and slingshot past.

[jlove]

Well, after watching the Le Mans coverage on Eurosport i'm glad to see that Le Mans 24 Hour is out on PS2! I have the game on DC, but don't use it much now as I tend to use my PS2 .... here's hoping its even better than the DC version (the latest cars would be cool, and a couple of extra tracks). I'm going to pick it up any day soon (as soon as I get out of work early enough to make it to Oxford St) - will keep you posted....

FredF1 - no worries. Makes life a bit easier if you're not always starting wet races on slicks

[jlove]

YAY - just checked the website....the PS2 version includes 30 cars from the 2000 race (including the new Audi, new Panoz etc) and new tracks (12 in total including Road Atlanta). Cool. WIll pick it up asap.

Damn, F1-2001 already takes up too much time....;)

[Eau Red]

alright kids. 3:30.105 in the Sauber, and that was with a less-than-perfect final section. sector times were 38.x, 1:56.x, 2:33.x. with a better last sector, i think that lap would have been in the mid 3:29s.

so, GGG, i guess your time would have put you SECOND on the grid this year...;)

[FredF1]

alright kids. 3:30.105 in the Sauber

Feck!

I can't compete with that right now.


My current race at Le Mans is a rain-soaked affair. Just like last weekend in fact.

Mind you, I've managed a 3:37 in the pouring rain with wets and full dowforce with half tanks in the Toyota.

Doesn't sound too realistic to me when the REAL cars were only putting in 3:40's on Saturday.

Anyways, figured out my problem over having completed the 'full' 24hrs race before - Err, that's because I never did the 24 hr mode -just the 6 hour one - That's where the Sauber comes from.

Currently am just past midnight and over 2 laps ahead of 2nd placed car.

[goGoGene]

Originally posted by Eau Red
alright kids. 3:30.105 in the Sauber

guess I gotta get my nomex back on, fire up the jag and get back to work. I'll tell you how I do on Monday.

ggg

[Mekon]

I thought I'd pop in the lap times from a little championship we ran at www.granturismo.com a while back. The thread is at http://ubb.granturis...&threadid=33284

I spoke to trev on friday, and apparently he is down in the low 3:17's now

TD:LM - fastest laps - Updated 22/03/01

Le Mans:
1st (25): SuperSport: 3:19.673 Mercedes CLK LM
2nd (21): Trev: 3:19.909 Mercedes CLK LM
3rd (19): Shun: 3:22.672 Mercedes CLK LM
4th (17): GasMan: 3:22.839 Mercedes CLK LM
5th (15): Skiddo: 3:23.208 Mercedes CLK LM
6th (14): Mekon: 3:23.839 Jaguar XJR9
7th (13): Kchrpm: 3:24.172 Mercedes CLK LM
8th (12): pitviper: 3:24.875 Mercedes CLK LM
9th (11): Spinwheelz: 3:29:042 Jaguar XJR9
10th (10): AlfaAlfa: 3:29.978 Mercedes CLK LM

Bugatti:
1st (25): GasMan: 1:28.576 Mercedes CLK LM
2nd (21): SuperSport: 1:29.342 Sauber C9
3rd (19): Skiddo: 1:29.842 Mercedes CLK LM
4th (17): Shun: Bugatti 1:31.206 Mercedes CLK LM
5th (15): Spinwheelz: 1:31:580 Panoz Esperante
6th (14): Kchrpm: 1:32.642 BMW LMP
7th (13): Mekon: 1:32.808 Jaguar XJR9
8th (12): Trev: 1:32.841 Mercedes CLK LM

BRNO:
1st (25): GasMan: 1:39.077 Lister Storm GTL
2nd (21): Shun: 1:39.980 Mercedes CLK LM
3rd (19): Spinwheelz: 1:40:476 Peugeot 905
4th (17): Skiddo: 1:40.710 Sauber C9
5th (15): Mekon: 1:41.541 Jaguar XJR9
6th (14): Kchrpm: 1:41.709 BMW LMP
7th (13): Dudley: 1:41.743 Jaguar XJR9

Don Nat:
1st (25): GasMan: 0:54.984 Mercedes CLK LM
2nd (21): AlfaAlfa: 0:55.751 Mercedes CLK LM
3rd (19): Shun: 0:56:350 Mercedes CLK LM
4th (17): Trev: 0:56.818 Mercedes CLK LM
5th (15): Dudley: 0.56.985 Jaguar XJR9
6th (14): Skiddo: 0:57.050 Sauber C9
7th (13): pitviper: 0:57.718 Mercedes CLK LM
8th (12): Kchrpm: 0:58.417 BMW LMP
=9th (11): Mekon: 0:58.986 Audi R8R
=9th (11): Spinz: 0:58:986 Panoz Spyder LM

Don GP:
1st (25): Skiddo: 1:16.053 Sauber
2nd (21): GasMan: 1:16.917 Nissan R390
3rd (19): Shun: 1:17.152 Mercedes CLK LM
4th (17): Trev: 1:17.484 Mercedes CLK LM
5th (15): AlfaAlfa: 1:17.485 Mercedes CLK LM
6th (14): Mekon: 1:17.516 Jaguar XJR9
7th (13): Dudley: 1:17.951 Jaguar XJR9
8th (12): Spinwheelz: 1:17:984 Jaguar XJR9
9th (11): Kchrpm: 1:18.284 BMW LMP

Cat nat:
1st (25): GasMan: 0:55.941 Nissan R391
2nd (21): AlfaAlfa: 0:56.775 Jaguar XJR9
3rd (19): Skiddo: 0:57.577 Jaguar XJR9
4th (17): Trev: 0:57.142 Mercedes CLK LM
5th (15): Kchrpm: 0:57.709 BMW LMP
6th (14): Spinwheelz: 0:57:908 Jaguar XJR9
7th (13): Shun: 0:58.142 Mercedes CLK LM
8th (12): Mekon: 0:58.375 Jaguar XJR9

Cat GP:
1st (25): GasMan: 1:26.275 Nissan R391
2nd (21): AlfaAlfa: 1:27.407 Nissan R391
3rd (19): Mekon: 1:28.209 Mercedes CLK LM
4th (17): Shun: 1:28.274 Mercedes CLK LM
5th (15): Trev: 1:28.376 Mercedes CLK LM
6th (14): Dudley: 1:28.775 Jaguar XJR9
7th (13): Spinwheelz: 1:28:909 Peugeot 905
8th (12): Skiddo: 1:29.610 Lancia
9th (11): Kchrpm: 1:32.575 Mercedes CLK-LM

Suzuka east:
1st (25): pitviper: 0:37.706 Mercedes CLK LM
2nd (21): AlfaAlfa: 0:37.972 Mercedes CLK LM
3rd (19): GasMan: 0:38.207 Panoz Esperante GTR
4th (17): Skiddo: 0:38.241 Jaguar XJR9
5th (15): SuperSport: 0:38.507 Sauber C9
6th (14): Shun: 0:38.739 Mercedes CLK LM
7th (13): Kchrpm: 0:39.175 BMW LMP
8th (12): Mekon: 0:39.507 BMW LMP
9th (11): Trev: 0:39.842 Mercedes CLK LM
10th (10): Spinwheelz: 0:39:940 Jaguar XJR9

Suzuka west:
1st (25): GasMan: 0:57.408 Jaguar XJR9
2nd (21): Spinwheelz: 0:57:739 Jaguar XJR9
3rd (19): Skiddo: 0:58.207 Jaguar XJR9
4th (17): Shun: 0:58.506 Mercedes CLK LM
5th (15): Mekon: 0:58.907 Jaguar XJR9
6th (14): Kchrpm: 1:00.773 BMW LMP

Suzuka GP:
1st (25): GasMan: 1:39.907 Jaguar XJR9
2nd (21): Skiddo: 1:41.306 Jaguar XJR9
3rd (19): AlfaAlfa: 1:42.839 Jaguar XJR9
4th (17): Shun: 1:43.405 Mercedes CLK LM
5th (15): Kchrpm: 1:43.440 BMW LMP
6th (14): Mekon: 1:43.940 Jaguar XJR9
7th (13): Spinwheelz: 1:44:139 Jaguar XJR9

[FredF1]

Thanks for that Mekon.

It's good to know how crap I really am!;)

Must get that CLK....

Only 10.5 more hours to go at Le Mans - am 5 laps ahead.

Stil hasn't stopped raining though.

[goGoGene]

in the jag I got a 3:27.xxx

It wasn't a clean drive, just before the final set of curves by brake paddle BROKE! I couldn't control the brakes for crap, I had to both pull them on and push them off, because the spring broke. I ended up going straight through the first of the last two chicanes, I caught curb and lots of gravel, gained conrol and pushed as hard as I could through to the start/finish line. I don't feel overly good about posting this time, I might have actually saved some time by straightlining through the last chicane, which isn't cool. on a very fast lap I was heading towards a 3:25, but I lost it at that blind downhill/left hand hairpin just before the final sector. It'll be a bit before I can repair my wheel .

ggg

[FredF1]

GGG,


I know the feeling.

Used to have this great little joystick - steel shaft and no frills layout - great for thrashing around on GP2.

Then, one day, while taking the Lesmo curves at Monza - Bang! Into the armco and no more righthand steering. A sad, sad day.
I opened it up but it was hopeless, the insides were shredded from too many wild manoevers.

[goGoGene]

So now I'm just using a button on the face of the wheel for breaking, not great for modulating the brakes, but it works. So my latest time in the Jag...

3:27.038

With the CLK I was able to do the first sector in 37.8, my fastest ever, but have yet to put a full lap together, it handles differently than the Jag, but it appears to have potential. Though, as I've said before the Jag can do a 3:25.xxx, I just haven't been able to finish out the lap when I am in contention.

ggg

[FredF1]

Guys......

How do I unlock the CLK?

I can't seem to find it.

I've completed everything bar the Time Trials.

Did the 24hr race in expert mode - won by over 12 laps!!!!

One thing, about the weather, does it ever start raining, stop raining and then start again?
Only, it always seems to start off fine and the get wet and stay wet.

Other minor quibbles - It was raining, yet the car was casting a shadow and there was a shine on the bodywork from the sun?
Also, why isn't the night section darker - might as well not have lights at all - It just gets a bit gloomy and that's it. Not much fun when you can still barrel into the bends at 2 am with perfect visibility.


Still can't get below 3:30:00 - My best is a measly 3:31.011.

I've come close on a few occasions to a 3:29 but seem to bounce the kerbs a bit too much towards the end of the lap.


Cheers,


Fred

[Ivan]

From reading all of the recent posts, it seems that I now have to go and get this game. GT3 takes up so much of my time already and I'm waiting for F1 2001 to reach the states.

[Earthling]

All i remember is that my record in Le Mans is 3:27. something...In the Sauber.
So i see the Merc is the best car from the times set in here! Impressive!!!!
Ill start playing it again now!