Race of Champions
15 april 1979
Brands Hatch
1. Villeneuve – Ferrari
2. Piquet – Brabham
3. Andretti – Lotus
4. Mass – Arrows
5. Lauda – Brabham
6. De Angelis – Shadow
Who have more info of the race
Race of Champions 1979
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, Nov 17 2000 14:59
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Darren Galpin
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Posted 17 November 2000 - 15:13
Race of Champions
15 April 1979, Brands Hatch, England, 40 laps
Lap Distance=2.61 miles. Race Distance=104.54 miles.
1 Gilles Villeneuve Ferrari 312T3 '033' 53m17.12, 117.72mph
2 Nelson Piquet Brabham-Alfa Romeo BT48 '1' 53m31.19
3 Mario Andretti Lotus-Cosworth 79 'R4' 40 laps
4 Jochen Mass Arrows-Cosowrth A1 '2A' 40 laps
5 Niki Lauda Brabham-Alfa Romeo BT48 '2' 39 laps
6 Elio de Angelis Shadow-Cosowth DN9 '4B' 39 laps
Fastest Lap: Nelson Piquet (Brabham-Alfa Romeo BT48), 1:17.46, 121.47mph
Pole Position: Mario Andretti (Lotus-Cosworth 79), 1:17.52
15 April 1979, Brands Hatch, England, 40 laps
Lap Distance=2.61 miles. Race Distance=104.54 miles.
1 Gilles Villeneuve Ferrari 312T3 '033' 53m17.12, 117.72mph
2 Nelson Piquet Brabham-Alfa Romeo BT48 '1' 53m31.19
3 Mario Andretti Lotus-Cosworth 79 'R4' 40 laps
4 Jochen Mass Arrows-Cosowrth A1 '2A' 40 laps
5 Niki Lauda Brabham-Alfa Romeo BT48 '2' 39 laps
6 Elio de Angelis Shadow-Cosowth DN9 '4B' 39 laps
Fastest Lap: Nelson Piquet (Brabham-Alfa Romeo BT48), 1:17.46, 121.47mph
Pole Position: Mario Andretti (Lotus-Cosworth 79), 1:17.52
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Posted 17 November 2000 - 16:42
The entry list:
1. Andretti, Martini Racing Team Lotus, 79/3 (spare: 80/1), DFV
5. Lauda, Parmalat Racing Team, BT48/02, Alfa 1260
6. Piquet, Parmalat Racing Team, BT48/01, Alfa 1260
7. Watson, Marlboro Team McLaren, M28/2, DFV
12. Villeneuve, Scuderia Ferrari SEFAC SpA, 312T3/033, 312B
18. De Angelis, Shadow Racing Team, DN9B, DFV
30. Mass, Warsteiner Arrows Racing Team, A1/05, DFV
41. Wilson, Melchester Racing Team, 008/3, DFV
42. Smiley, Melchester Racing Team, 008, DFV
43. Villota, Madom Formula 1 Team, 78/1, DFV
44. Edwards, Mopar Ultramar Racing Team, F5A/2, DFV
45. De Dryver, Mopar Ultramar Racing Team, F5A/3, DFV
46. Needell, Durex-Eden-Award Racing, Chevron B41, DFV
47. Musetti, Valentino Musetti, 771, DFV
49. Agostini, Team Agostini Marlboro, FW06/001, DFV
51. Kennedy, Theodore Racing with Hi-Line, WR4, DFV
52. Bullman, John Surtees Garages, TS20, DFV
56. Keegan, Charles Clowes Racing, A1/02, DFV
62. Biechteler, Walz Toj Racing, 781, DFV
63. Smith, Smith and Jones, N174/MN02, DFV
Remarkable is Philip Bullman's appearance in the TS20, the year after Surtees' F1 had ceased to be, as well as the appearance of the two March 771 and 781 chassis raced by Val Musetti and Gerd Biechteler. Also note the ageing MN02 driven by Robin Smith!
1. Andretti, Martini Racing Team Lotus, 79/3 (spare: 80/1), DFV
5. Lauda, Parmalat Racing Team, BT48/02, Alfa 1260
6. Piquet, Parmalat Racing Team, BT48/01, Alfa 1260
7. Watson, Marlboro Team McLaren, M28/2, DFV
12. Villeneuve, Scuderia Ferrari SEFAC SpA, 312T3/033, 312B
18. De Angelis, Shadow Racing Team, DN9B, DFV
30. Mass, Warsteiner Arrows Racing Team, A1/05, DFV
41. Wilson, Melchester Racing Team, 008/3, DFV
42. Smiley, Melchester Racing Team, 008, DFV
43. Villota, Madom Formula 1 Team, 78/1, DFV
44. Edwards, Mopar Ultramar Racing Team, F5A/2, DFV
45. De Dryver, Mopar Ultramar Racing Team, F5A/3, DFV
46. Needell, Durex-Eden-Award Racing, Chevron B41, DFV
47. Musetti, Valentino Musetti, 771, DFV
49. Agostini, Team Agostini Marlboro, FW06/001, DFV
51. Kennedy, Theodore Racing with Hi-Line, WR4, DFV
52. Bullman, John Surtees Garages, TS20, DFV
56. Keegan, Charles Clowes Racing, A1/02, DFV
62. Biechteler, Walz Toj Racing, 781, DFV
63. Smith, Smith and Jones, N174/MN02, DFV
Remarkable is Philip Bullman's appearance in the TS20, the year after Surtees' F1 had ceased to be, as well as the appearance of the two March 771 and 781 chassis raced by Val Musetti and Gerd Biechteler. Also note the ageing MN02 driven by Robin Smith!
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Posted 17 November 2000 - 19:52
I've not seen yet the reports of this race but I think there were two separates overall placings. I also think all the Aurora F1 were back on the grid. But I'm not sure...
I'll certainly make an other reply soon when I'll find the mags!
I'll certainly make an other reply soon when I'll find the mags!
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Posted 17 November 2000 - 20:08
Racer,
thank you very match
thank you very match
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Marcor
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Posted 17 November 2000 - 21:10
Starting grid
row 1: Andretti, 1m 17.52s and Lauda 1m 17.76s
row 2: Villeneuve, 1m 17.85s and Piquet, 1m 17.98s
row 3: Mass, 1m 18.93s and De Angelis, 1m 19.57s
row 4: Watson, 1m 20.30s
Aurora championship
row 5: Keegan, 1m 20.65s and Edwards, 1m 21.13s
row 6: Villota, 1m 21.67s and Kennedy, 1m 22.35s
row 7: Bullmann, 1m 22.41s and Agostini, 1m 22.60s
row 8: Wilson, 1m 23.33s and De Drijver, 1m 23.44s
row 9: Smiley, 1m 23.63s and Musetti, 1m 25.61
row 10: Smith, 1m 26.37s
My source doesn't mention the position of Tiff Needel and Biechteler. Kennedy didn't start (withdrew after the practice, having a problem with his gearbox).
The race: in fact all the Auroras finished behind the six "real Formula 1". Only Watson retired. In Aurora Keegan had to win but the engine of his Arrows blew up on lap 34. Needel retired on lap 16 (accident) and Bullmann nine laps later for the same reason.
The rest of the results:
7- Edwards Copersucar F5A/2 Ford, + 1 lap
8- De Drijver Copersucar F5A/3 Ford, + 1 lap
9- Wilson Tyrrel 008/3 Ford, + 2 laps
10- Smiley Tyrrel 008 Ford, + 2 laps
11- Agostini Williams FW06/001 Ford, + 2 laps
12- Musetti March 771 Ford, + 4 laps
13- Smith Ensign MN02 Ford, + 4 laps
DNF- Watson Mc Laren M28/2 Ford
DNF- Needell Chevron B41 Ford
DNF- Vilotta Lotus 78/1 Ford
DNF- Bullmann Surtees TS20 Ford
DNF- Keegan Arrows A1/B Ford
DNS- Kennedy Wolf WR4 Ford
Fast lap (Formula 1): Piquet, 1m 17.46s
Fast lap (Aurora): Keegan, 1m 21.15s
row 1: Andretti, 1m 17.52s and Lauda 1m 17.76s
row 2: Villeneuve, 1m 17.85s and Piquet, 1m 17.98s
row 3: Mass, 1m 18.93s and De Angelis, 1m 19.57s
row 4: Watson, 1m 20.30s
Aurora championship
row 5: Keegan, 1m 20.65s and Edwards, 1m 21.13s
row 6: Villota, 1m 21.67s and Kennedy, 1m 22.35s
row 7: Bullmann, 1m 22.41s and Agostini, 1m 22.60s
row 8: Wilson, 1m 23.33s and De Drijver, 1m 23.44s
row 9: Smiley, 1m 23.63s and Musetti, 1m 25.61
row 10: Smith, 1m 26.37s
My source doesn't mention the position of Tiff Needel and Biechteler. Kennedy didn't start (withdrew after the practice, having a problem with his gearbox).
The race: in fact all the Auroras finished behind the six "real Formula 1". Only Watson retired. In Aurora Keegan had to win but the engine of his Arrows blew up on lap 34. Needel retired on lap 16 (accident) and Bullmann nine laps later for the same reason.
The rest of the results:
7- Edwards Copersucar F5A/2 Ford, + 1 lap
8- De Drijver Copersucar F5A/3 Ford, + 1 lap
9- Wilson Tyrrel 008/3 Ford, + 2 laps
10- Smiley Tyrrel 008 Ford, + 2 laps
11- Agostini Williams FW06/001 Ford, + 2 laps
12- Musetti March 771 Ford, + 4 laps
13- Smith Ensign MN02 Ford, + 4 laps
DNF- Watson Mc Laren M28/2 Ford
DNF- Needell Chevron B41 Ford
DNF- Vilotta Lotus 78/1 Ford
DNF- Bullmann Surtees TS20 Ford
DNF- Keegan Arrows A1/B Ford
DNS- Kennedy Wolf WR4 Ford
Fast lap (Formula 1): Piquet, 1m 17.46s
Fast lap (Aurora): Keegan, 1m 21.15s
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Posted 17 November 2000 - 23:28
Darren and racer.demon disagree over the chssis numbers of Andretti's and Mass' cars.
In the case of Andretti, Darren (79 R4) agrees with Paul Sheldon, while racer (79/3) agrees with Jenkinson (Motor sport)
For the Arrows, both Motor Sport and Sheldon agree with racer (A1-05)
the race had been rescheduled from March 18th when it was snowed off. The Grand Prix teams had been at Long Beach on the 8th, a test day at Zolder on the 12th and started practice at Brands Hatch on the 14th. Brabham appear to have had the same cars in California and at Brands Hatch.
The race was in aid of the Gunnar Nilsson Memorial Fund.
In the case of Andretti, Darren (79 R4) agrees with Paul Sheldon, while racer (79/3) agrees with Jenkinson (Motor sport)
For the Arrows, both Motor Sport and Sheldon agree with racer (A1-05)
the race had been rescheduled from March 18th when it was snowed off. The Grand Prix teams had been at Long Beach on the 8th, a test day at Zolder on the 12th and started practice at Brands Hatch on the 14th. Brabham appear to have had the same cars in California and at Brands Hatch.
The race was in aid of the Gunnar Nilsson Memorial Fund.
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Posted 20 November 2000 - 21:13
1979 Malboro/Daily Mail Race of Champions
The Motoring News report of the grid differs from Marcor's in one respect. It has Desire Wilson lining up alongside Keegan as the second fastest Aurora car. Her time of 1m 20.8s was disputed by the other teams as none had her lapping faster than 1m 22s or 1m 23s but I feel it must have been allowed to stand as the race report has her running second to Keegan in the early laps with Edwards behind her. It would seem unlikely that she could have passed so many cars if she had started from further back on the grid.
Motoring News Grid
Row 1 Andretti 1m 17.52s; Lauda 1m 17.76s
Row 2 Villeneuve 1m 17.85s; Piquet 1m 17.98s
Row 3 Mass 1m 18.93; de Angelis 1m 19.57s
Row 4 Watson 1m 20.30s
Row 5 Keegan 1m 20.65s; Wilson 1m 20.8s
Row 6 Edwards 1m 20.9s; Villota 1m 21.67s
Row 7 Kennedy 1m 22.35s; Bullman 1m 1m 22.41s
Row 8 Needell 1m 22.5s; Agostini 1m 22.60s
Row 9 Smiley 1m 23.2s; de Dryver 1m 23.44s
Row 10 Musetti 1m 25.61s; Smith 1m 26.67s
Kennedy did not start
Gerd Bichteller had the 110% rule applied against him and was prevented from cluttering up the race.
Reasons for retirements
Needell crashed, 16 laps completed
Watson gearbox, 18 laps
Bullman spun off, 24 laps
de Villota engine, 34 laps
Keegan engine, 35 laps
Interesting final comment to the report
" Oh yes, and I'll be curious to see how many letters we receive telling us that Formula 1 cars don't overtake anymore. If they don't, then perhaps somebody had better infrom Messrs. Villeneuve, Piquet and Andretti, because the word certainly doesn't seem to have filtered through to them!"
The Motoring News report of the grid differs from Marcor's in one respect. It has Desire Wilson lining up alongside Keegan as the second fastest Aurora car. Her time of 1m 20.8s was disputed by the other teams as none had her lapping faster than 1m 22s or 1m 23s but I feel it must have been allowed to stand as the race report has her running second to Keegan in the early laps with Edwards behind her. It would seem unlikely that she could have passed so many cars if she had started from further back on the grid.
Motoring News Grid
Row 1 Andretti 1m 17.52s; Lauda 1m 17.76s
Row 2 Villeneuve 1m 17.85s; Piquet 1m 17.98s
Row 3 Mass 1m 18.93; de Angelis 1m 19.57s
Row 4 Watson 1m 20.30s
Row 5 Keegan 1m 20.65s; Wilson 1m 20.8s
Row 6 Edwards 1m 20.9s; Villota 1m 21.67s
Row 7 Kennedy 1m 22.35s; Bullman 1m 1m 22.41s
Row 8 Needell 1m 22.5s; Agostini 1m 22.60s
Row 9 Smiley 1m 23.2s; de Dryver 1m 23.44s
Row 10 Musetti 1m 25.61s; Smith 1m 26.67s
Kennedy did not start
Gerd Bichteller had the 110% rule applied against him and was prevented from cluttering up the race.
Reasons for retirements
Needell crashed, 16 laps completed
Watson gearbox, 18 laps
Bullman spun off, 24 laps
de Villota engine, 34 laps
Keegan engine, 35 laps
Interesting final comment to the report
" Oh yes, and I'll be curious to see how many letters we receive telling us that Formula 1 cars don't overtake anymore. If they don't, then perhaps somebody had better infrom Messrs. Villeneuve, Piquet and Andretti, because the word certainly doesn't seem to have filtered through to them!"
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Posted 20 November 2000 - 21:48
Paul Sheldon and Motor Sport both have the same grid as Milan
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Posted 24 February 2020 - 16:24
Race of Champions
15 April 1979, Brands Hatch, England, 40 laps
Lap Distance=2.61 miles. Race Distance=104.54 miles.
1 Gilles Villeneuve Ferrari 312T3 '033' 53m17.12, 117.72mph
2 Nelson Piquet Brabham-Alfa Romeo BT48 '1' 53m31.19
3 Mario Andretti Lotus-Cosworth 79 'R4' 40 laps
4 Jochen Mass Arrows-Cosowrth A1 '2A' 40 laps
5 Niki Lauda Brabham-Alfa Romeo BT48 '2' 39 laps
6 Elio de Angelis Shadow-Cosowth DN9 '4B' 39 laps
Fastest Lap: Nelson Piquet (Brabham-Alfa Romeo BT48), 1:17.46, 121.47mph
Pole Position: Mario Andretti (Lotus-Cosworth 79), 1:17.52
Sorry for bringing this back up 20 years later.
Are you sure about the chassis number of De Angelis' Shadow and where do you know that from?
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Posted 24 February 2020 - 21:47
As a starting point there's always Wikipedia (standard health warning applies) https://en.wikipedia...ce_of_Champions
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Posted 23 March 2020 - 05:31
This version is much better. 50 frames per second and the correct aspect ratio:
Edited by Paul Taylor, 23 March 2020 - 05:32.
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Posted 23 March 2020 - 07:52
Love the sound of that Alfa flat-12.
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Posted 23 March 2020 - 22:51
Love the sound of that Alfa flat-12.
Shirley their new V12 ;-)
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Posted 24 March 2020 - 17:22
Two of the grey blobs on the exit of Druids are me and my (now late) friend Steve Hardy . We'd driven my 2CV down from Lincoln the night before, slept in the car and breakfasted on home cooked bacon and egg sandwiches in the car park . Two memories - the sound of that wonderful Alfa V12 (yes it was indeed ) screaming along the start finish straight and sounding like every racing car should . The other memory is of Villeneuve driving the near obsolete 312 T3 like it was a rally car (and I'm thinking Escort, not WRC tonka toy )
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Posted 25 March 2020 - 17:43
The Sheldon ‘Black Book’ says 4B. ORC says 1B:
https://www.oldracin...m/shadow/dn9/1b
Doug Nye's "Autocourse History of the Grand Prix Car 1966-85" says 4B as well.
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Posted 13 July 2020 - 05:44
As noted above the race was originally scheduled to run on March 18th but was delayed until April 15th because of snow and I suspect 1B was in the original entry list. However the prior weekend to April15th was the US West GP where 1B was damaged in an accident but notwithstanding that most of the cars that were in the US and had been entered in the ROC did not make it back so some teams dropped out and others brought substitute cars. Note also whichever car it was ran in black with Villiger sponsorship not a livery used at any other time during the 1979 season.
Edited by MagicMotorsport, 13 July 2020 - 05:51.
