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#9751 TheBunk

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 09:01

Yeah its strange as it was clear as day Lewis and Jenson drove very well in the last races.


It wasnt strange because he highlighted the qualifying pace, and never mentioned the races itself.


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#9752 tifosiMac

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 09:13

It wasnt strange because he highlighted the qualifying pace, and never mentioned the races itself.

Not overly negative as some suggest in that case.

#9753 maverick69

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 11:19

After the launch of the MP4-27 I think it can now be concluded that "the interview" was infact a spoof :wave:

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 13:19

The burning issue is not the fact that Seb was faster than Webber but that he is a better driver than the Mac duo - or so is claimed by one small Mclaren cog.


Oh but Seb's pace relative to Webber's is very relevant. McGrath's assertion is based on an assumption that Webber is extracting the expected high amount from the car, but that Seb is doing something extra special to be find another 4 tenths in quali. If, for example both Seb and Mark were separated by a tenth or less, do you think McGrath would be speculating that the MP4-26 was faster than the RB7?  ;)

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:15



Never gets old... :up:

#9756 flyer121

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 09:51

Oh but Seb's pace relative to Webber's is very relevant. McGrath's assertion is based on an assumption that Webber is extracting the expected high amount from the car, but that Seb is doing something extra special to be find another 4 tenths in quali. If, for example both Seb and Mark were separated by a tenth or less, do you think McGrath would be speculating that the MP4-26 was faster than the RB7? ;)



I agree that the probability of the car being fastest increases when both drivers are close but there is still an outside chance that both drivers were extracting more out of the machine than their rivals.

And if McGrath based his comments on the data they had , then its likely that Webber was actually driving the car at the realistic normal pace .....

#9757 maverick69

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:23

I agree that the probability of the car being fastest increases when both drivers are close but there is still an outside chance that both drivers were extracting more out of the machine than their rivals.

And if McGrath based his comments on the data they had , then its likely that Webber was actually driving the car at the realistic normal pace .....


Flyer: Anything contentious that could be verified was factually incorrect. Do you not see that?

1) "There are technical innovations on this car which will be immediately obvious when you see them"

No there isn't.

2) "We started way behind in the last couple of years"

What. Like 2010 you mean?

3) "There's no trickery on the cars"

How does he know this? Red Bull are probably the most secretive team on the grid. Do you really believe that the intimate working knowledge of the concepts and systems that make their car so fast would be spread as far as a satellite operation of McLaren? Gimme a break!

Finally, the so called journalist (first ever "article" for Autosport BTW) reports that "It is understood that McLaren are focussing on single lap speed with the MP4-27 which it hopes will allow it to take more pole positions and control races from the front"

Yesterday, when Goss was actually asked that specific question he quite categorically said that they were more focussed on getting the best out of the tyres during the race!

So if anything that could be verified was found to be bullshit - then what does it say for the rest of the article?

Think about it...........

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:06

Continue here, apparently; http://forums.autosp...howtopic=160573