1813 replies to this topic

[RodrigoL]

Surely that wasn't allowed..what do the rules say about it? He weaved at least twice to deny Petrov his rightful position.

Do you think it deserved more than a slap on the wrist?

Edited by RodrigoL, 04 April 2010 - 11:36.

[moredeep]

I expect nothing less from a noted Hamilton basher

[Anomnader]

1.. 2.. 3.. GO Let the bashing begin!

What did I say about the amount of Lewis posts in the Places Thread

[alg7_munif]

He is not blocking but he stopped Petrov from using his slipstream, smart move actually.

[noikeee]

Stop and go 100%. You're allowed to break the tow to some extent but not by crossing across the straight 3 times, that was absolutely ridiculous. I don't understand why he didn't get a penalty.

[Bishy]

He weaved at least twice to deny Petrov his rightful position.

Bzzzzzt! And the survey says - wrong!

[Lights]

I hope it's allowed.

Why penalize this while Webber's chops go unpunished?

[moredeep]

He is not blocking but he stopped Petrov from using his slipstream, smart move actually.

THIS IS THE CORRECT ANSWER


Argument over.

[Nasty McBastard]

suspension! penalty! dangerous driving ARGHGHGHHH!

[fed up]

He is not blocking but he stopped Petrov from using his slipstream, smart move actually.

That is exactly how I saw it. Martin Brundle too

[raiseyourfistfor]

Rodriglol.... Nope.

There is a difference between blocking on the straight when there is a quicker car behind you and moving side to side to not get in someones slipstream

[Kelateboy]

1.. 2.. 3.. GO Let the bashing begin!

What did I say about the amount of Lewis posts in the Places Thread

Lewis is the F1 God. He should be allowed to do what he wishes....

It is not as if he weaved 10 times.

[Augurk]

He is not blocking but he stopped Petrov from using his slipstream, smart move actually.

Doesn't matter. You are allowed only one change of line for defense. He changed what.. 4 times?

Should have gotten a drive through.

[Clatter]

He wasn't blocking an overtaking attempt. He moved, Petrov followed. If Petrov had moved and then LH moved it would have been wrong, but as soon as Petrov made his move LH held his line.

[Cenotaph]

you can't change lines like that in a straight more than two times, it should have been a penalty as it was a clear infraction (hence the warning), the stewards took the coward decision probably to avoid controversies so soon in the season which i understand, but i have to vote that he should have been penalised.

[P123]

Surely that wasn't allowed..what do the rules say about it? He weaved at least twice to deny Petrov his rightful position.

Do you think it deserved more than a slap on the wrist?

Weaving is a grey area. There have been incidents of it in the past but it seems only those who move under braking are penalised. He deserved his reprimand and hopefully we won't see anything as extreme as that again.

PS- Try and be a little more balanced with the options in your poll!

[ZooL]

He is not blocking but he stopped Petrov from using his slipstream, smart move actually.

[jesee]

Yeah give him drive through, ban him, yeah let us give him a ten grid penalty

Another nonsense. I saw the same with Alonso in Australia.....we should also have give him a stop and go penalty. What childish goes in some people i can never tell.

[Yellowmc]

Stop and go for me.

It was a defensive move and the rules state you are only allowed to make 1 change of direction to block, that was about 3-4.

That is according to the rules anyway, I'm not too fussed because Petrov was not getting passed either way.

[Grundle]

I think it was great driving
Lewis

[fed up]

He wasn't blocking an overtaking attempt. He moved, Petrov followed. If Petrov had moved and then LH moved it would have been wrong, but as soon as Petrov made his move LH held his line.

This...

[fenixracing]

why do we have this trhead if i remeber right he not the first doing that this season
and he wasnt bloking him
why does this always happens when lewis do something
you also could have made a thread about massa's weaving but htere wasnt any
why dont you call it lets bash on hamilton thread that would be a better titel

Edited by fenixracing, 04 April 2010 - 09:59.

[wingwalker]

He is not blocking but he stopped Petrov from using his slipstream, smart move actually.

What is up with this line of reasoning, I saw it another thread. That's utter BS, driver is allowed to make one move in defence and 'stopping a driver from using your slipstream' is clearly a defensive strategy, so one move rule still applies. In other news, 2+2=4. I mean, I can't believe you're saying this seriously. Lewis was very lucky to avoid a penalty, I was sure he is going to get a drive through for that.

Edited by wingwalker, 04 April 2010 - 09:59.

[craftverk]

Stop and go for me.

It was a defensive move and the rules state you are only allowed to make 1 change of direction to block, that was about 3-4.

That is according to the rules anyway, I'm not too fussed because Petrov was not getting passed either way.

that was not a block, and this has happened before without such penalty, laughable post

[Jose Mourinho is Special]

What a disgrace!

I don't know if Hamilton was playing F1 09 on Wii the night before, but how he dodged a drive thru for deliberate weaving is beyond me

Jean Todt get your act together!

Rant over.

[Anomnader]

Stop and go for me.

It was a defensive move and the rules state you are only allowed to make 1 change of direction to block, that was about 3-4.

That is according to the rules anyway, I'm not too fussed because Petrov was not getting passed either way.

He wasn't blocking though, if he was blocking it would have being a clear penatly, he moved first not Petrov.

[jesee]

There should be an option.........

"Iam just having a laugh or a brain fade"

[alg7_munif]

Petrov didn't need to be behind Lewis, he can be alongside and when Lewis moved again then Lewis should be punished but Petrov choosed to be behind Lewis and I think that there is nothing wrong with Lewis moving again. This is not like Webber's chops.

[rye&ginger]

Well he got a warning, pretty much saying he is in a grey area and probably should not do it again.

Keep fighting among yourselves now.

Edited by rye&ginger, 04 April 2010 - 10:02.

[Coral]

It's racing for goodness sake. Lewis was warned about it, it was the right decision. It's nice to see Lewis not getting penalties after the events of 2008.

[RodrigoL]

you can't change lines like that in a straight more than two times, it should have been a penalty as it was a clear infraction (hence the warning), the stewards took the coward decision probably to avoid controversies so soon in the season which i understand, but i have to vote that he should have been penalised.

How I saw it too.

Having ex-drivers on the panel would always be a problem because of their allegiances.

IIRC Herbert (part of the stewards today) once praised Hamilton for his aggressive style and was whining about all his (deserved) penalties.

Lewis got let off the hook quite easily IMO.

Edited by RodrigoL, 04 April 2010 - 10:03.

[ClubmanGT]

The entrance to the first corner is on the other side to the last, so by default moving to the inside of the track is 'moving off line'. I wouldn't have a problem if he hadn't done so so many times.

The penalty is not for blocking, it is for weaving.

[ZZei]

If it was webber this forum would explode. Honestly he just should have given his place back to Petrov.

[Umpire]

It was probably worth of a drive through, but I can live with the 'warning'.

[lokiman]

Originally, I thought that Lewis should have been given a penalty for making too many blocking moves, but it's apparent that he wasn't actually blocking Petrov, he was moving to get Petrov out of his slipstream. Petrov kept following Lewis in an attempt to stay in the slipstream. No problem with that.

[Jay101]

Petrov wasn't trying to overtake, he was trying to slipstream and there's no rule that states your not alloud to deny the car behind from slipstreaming you.
Besides you could say Hammy was trying to get out of Petrov's way to let him through but Petrov kept following behind instead

[Andy35]

Surely that wasn't allowed..what do the rules say about it? He weaved at least twice to deny Petrov his rightful position.

Do you think it deserved more than a slap on the wrist?

Why didn't you post an option same as the stewards to give people that voting option?

This is just a knee jerk reaction right rather than well thought out?

Andy

[RedBaron]

I was really shocked first off but now I've chilled I think it was borderline deserving a drive through, it was extreme blocking/weaving. He should have been shown a black and white diagonal flag for dangerous driving to make it more official and made fully public, not just a private message passed on via radio. That message was meaningless and held no value at all, he needed an 'official' yellow card. Great race from Hamilton though, gave us some good action... we could have had a little more though if the dicing with Petrov had been fairer.

[Kelateboy]

What is up with this line of reasoning, I saw it another thread. That's utter BS, driver is allowed to make one move in defence and 'stopping a driver from using your slipstream' is clearly a defensive strategy, so one move rule still applies. In other news, 2+2=4. I mean, I can't believe you're saying this seriously. Lewis was very lucky to avoid a penalty, I was sure he is going to get a drive through for that.

The only penalties that could be levelled against Lewis was a stop n go penalty or a drive through. Personally, I thought either of those penalties would be be too harsh. The steward opted for the warning, which I think is the most sensible option.

It does not ruin Lewis' race and I sure don't think the move ruined Petrov's race as well.

-KB

Edited by Kelateboy, 04 April 2010 - 10:06.

[MTC]

Stop and go 100%. You're allowed to break the tow to some extent but not by crossing across the straight 3 times, that was absolutely ridiculous. I don't understand why he didn't get a penalty.

dunno....maybe because the FIA still owes him one from Spa 2008?

[MrAerodynamicist]

He'll probably be asked to go and speak to the stewards to have the message delivered formally.

[VresiBerba]

Doesn't matter. You are allowed only one change of line for defense.

That's not actually true, but even if it was, it was not in a braking-zone and if Petrov hadn't followed Lewis around, the weave would have stayed with one. it was no worse than Massa cutting corners in Monaco last year despite the FIA telling drivers that if they did that they would get penalised, but just like Lewis today, Massa only got a warning.

[domhnall]

I'm a big hamilton fan but i think this weaving is dreadfully unfair and shouldn't be allowed. I've never seen a penalty given for though so I so in that respect i guess it was a good consistent judgement from the stewards. I think this sort of thing should be stamped out of the sport though.

[Andy35]

What a disgrace!

I don't know if Hamilton was playing F1 09 on Wii the night before, but how he dodged a drive thru for deliberate weaving is beyond me

Jean Todt get your act together!

Rant over.

Err .. but what did Webber get for the last race in actually hitting Hamilton? Seems that people on here are as inconsistent as the stewards

Andy

[Jay101]

If it was webber this forum would explode. Honestly he just should have given his place back to Petrov.

If it was Webber he would of let Petrov get his front wing in so that he could chop it off.

[primer]

I do not care which drivers are involved, and whether it was denying slipstream or blocking. I just hope FIA stewards are consistent for the rest of the season.

Edited by primer, 04 April 2010 - 10:08.

[The Kanisteri]

In my opinion he should have got drivethrough. Warning would have been enough in more safe place, but he did it on fastest starigh of track and increased potential danger.

[raiseyourfistfor]

How I saw it too.

Having ex-drivers on the panel would always be a problem because of their allegiances.

IIRC Herbert (part of the stewards today) once praised Hamilton for his aggressive style and was whining about all his (deserved) penalties.

Lewis got let off the hook quite easily IMO.

You're not doing yourself any favors

[Orin]

Surely that wasn't allowed..what do the rules say about it? He weaved at least twice to deny Petrov his rightful position.

Denied Petrov? He tried to break the tow, not block him from overtaking.

[baddog]

I too would have voted for the stewards getting it right.. it was not really okay but its grey enough to make it best to not affect the race over. If anyone does it again now then there has been a warning and hit them with a stop-go