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#1 Ali_G

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Posted 22 May 2010 - 10:15

Just a few videos I've come across.

Early 90's DTM montage - Full of BMW E30s and Mercedes 190s. Great video. Those 190s looked menacing.

Classic Arti Vatanen on Pikes Peak - Fairly well known video at this stage. Won a few awards I believe. That T16 was some car.

Marcus Gronholm on Pikes Peak - The modern version of Vatanen's film. Some nice footage.

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#2 kissTheApex

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Posted 22 May 2010 - 13:20

What a contrast between Ari Vatanen's and Gronholm's climbs. Good find.

#3 motoman2100

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Posted 22 May 2010 - 18:15

wow that DTM montage is fantastic!!!!

#4 Gemini

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Posted 22 May 2010 - 18:30

DTM clip is awasome!

Green Hell!

#5 MortenF1

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Posted 22 May 2010 - 18:42

DTM was absolutely rockin' back then!

#6 FlatOverCrest

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Posted 22 May 2010 - 23:56

This is simply the stuff of LEGEND!!!!!!!!

Ari Vatanen - Legend of a Driver

Terry Harryman - Legend of Co-Driver

Manx Rally 1983 Opel Manta 400 on wet tarmac - Stage of Legend!!!!!!!!!

:eek:

F....ing EPIC...there is simply no better way to describe this mans car control of a rear wheel drive Manta!! How Terry kept reading the notes after that HUGE cattle grid moment is quite beyond me..

ENJOY!...

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related


#7 FlatOverCrest

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 00:10

Ahhh the proper days of the WRC!!!

1998


and the great Group B days...

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

and numbers of fans that the current organisers can only DREAM of.... WRC more popular now than ever?......BS North One Sport....
http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

and one of the finest Rally Cars of all time..... PURE FIRE SPITTING NOISE!!!
http://www.youtube.c...feature=related


Edited by FlatOverCrest, 23 May 2010 - 00:19.


#8 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 00:24

what's a cattle grid moment?


#9 motoman2100

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 02:45

he is referring to the moment when Ari brushes up against the wall right before the fence that they have to squeeze through, the wall gets him all squirly and he is able to save it just as they pull through the gate, you can hear the co-driver express his feelings on the situation :lol:, but ya thats a monsterous drive

#10 FlatOverCrest

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Posted 24 May 2010 - 18:47

what's a cattle grid moment?


LOL

He loses the back end just before a VERY narrow cattle grid and solid stone gate and somehow he manages to snatch the car back straight with a 'kiss' of the gate and a staggering speed that almost made Terry redesign his underpants...

Hence... "Cattle Grid Moment..."  ;)

#11 Desdirodeabike

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Posted 24 May 2010 - 19:46

LOL

He loses the back end just before a VERY narrow cattle grid and solid stone gate and somehow he manages to snatch the car back straight with a 'kiss' of the gate and a staggering speed that almost made Terry redesign his underpants...

Hence... "Cattle Grid Moment..." ;)

That was unbelievable. Ari = driving god. How on earth did he save that?? And the speeds they were going was pretty scary.
Also - that is how an onboard camera should be like. Not looking out the crack of a mailbox like today.

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Posted 24 May 2010 - 20:07

Just a few videos I've come across.

Early 90's DTM montage - Full of BMW E30s and Mercedes 190s. Great video. Those 190s looked menacing.

Classic Arti Vatanen on Pikes Peak hid kits - Fairly well known video at this stage. Won a few awards I believe. That T16 was some car.

Marcus Gronholm on Pikes Peak - The modern version of Vatanen's film. Some nice footage.


:up: :up:

Loved the first Video! Gonna watch the other two when I get off work =)

#13 FlatOverCrest

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 00:14

Stratos.... simply heavenly music!




#14 cheapracer

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 02:59

LOL

He loses the back end just before a VERY narrow cattle grid and solid stone gate and somehow he manages to snatch the car back straight with a 'kiss' of the gate and a staggering speed that almost made Terry redesign his underpants...

Hence... "Cattle Grid Moment..." ;)



Didn't lose the back he came in too close and the front clips the wall or a rock kicking the back out.

What is amazing (on the full tape that I bought from Duke so many years ago, VHS tape!) is the speed he gets to near the end of the stage running on the front puncture he suffered in that incident with some mighty huge cliffs to the right of the car.

Not that it matters but Henri was faster in the Manta.

I suggest F1 fans search for "Gentlemen lift your skirts", great documentry from 1980 centered around Williams and the downforce issues.

Here is a full 10 minute stage of Andy Burton in his 400hp Cosworth Peugeot 306 rally car as well as lots of othe vids ... http://www.motorspor....com/view/2066/

Edited by cheapracer, 25 May 2010 - 03:27.


#15 LukeM

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 03:13

some awesome videos in this thread, good work fellas :up:

#16 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 07:54

I suggest F1 fans search for "Gentlemen lift your skirts", great documentry from 1980 centered around Williams and the downforce issues.

http://www.youtube.c...5434CD68F02ECBA

#17 Craven Morehead

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 08:19

fantastic :up: :up: thanks fer that :D

#18 FlatOverCrest

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 11:16

Didn't lose the back he came in too close and the front clips the wall or a rock kicking the back out.
What is amazing (on the full tape that I bought from Duke so many years ago, VHS tape!) is the speed he gets to near the end of the stage running on the front puncture he suffered in that incident with some mighty huge cliffs to the right of the car.
Here is a full 10 minute stage of Andy Burton in his 400hp Cosworth Peugeot 306 rally car as well as lots of othe vids ... http://www.motorspor....com/view/2066/


Ok the hair is truly spliteth! If you watch closely, the call is easy left... he has to lift slightly as the back started to move, THAT has caused him to then have the impact on the front and thus the puncture... which almost causes him to collect the gate...I should have been more precise! :lol:

Also I was surprised at how simply Andy Burtons notes are...

#19 Rubens Hakkamacher

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 15:30

Terry Harryman - Legend of Co-Driver


I've not heard a co-driver use the term "maybe" before? Anyone care to elaborate? I presume that's his way of saying "I think this would be a flat left, but don't trust me on it"?


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#20 FlatOverCrest

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 20:01

I've not heard a co-driver use the term "maybe" before? Anyone care to elaborate? I presume that's his way of saying "I think this would be a flat left, but don't trust me on it"?


No its the drivers notes and is often used to describe a corner that might or might not be 'Flat, easy, etc' so the 'Maybe' is put in and the driver makes a decision whether to lift slightly for the corner depending on surface condition etc, then if they run the stage they can remove that or change the note. It is often also used when it has rained but the pace notes were made during a dry recce, so the co-driver will likely make notes on the 'NOTES' to change the really fast stuff to include 'maybe' to give the driver some help in not throwing it off the road!  ;)

Hope that helps?

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 22:54

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related


Always liked the part where the navigator says: "oh, dear god..."
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#22 Doug Nye

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 00:04

This might well have been posted before, but regardless I certainly recommend it...



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#23 Andrew Hope

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 00:09

Doubtlessly old news, but

Patrick Depailler - Onboard laps of Montreal, 1978, in the rain.

Fantastic footage and sound to boot.

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 00:25

Early 90's DTM montage - Full of BMW E30s and Mercedes 190s. Great video. Those 190s looked menacing.

Music is TERRIBLE but the footage is timeless.

Edited by Seanspeed, 25 January 2011 - 00:25.


#25 domhnall

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 13:12

i havnt actually watched this but its supposed to be good



#26 BenettonB192

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 13:43

Talking about DTM. One of my favourite videos:

DTM 1987-Salzburgring Endlauf

Complete race from behind driver view.

#27 aditya-now

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 19:51

Doubtlessly old news, but

Patrick Depailler - Onboard laps of Montreal, 1978, in the rain.

Fantastic footage and sound to boot.


Thanks for the fantastic links, especially DTM.

What strikes me with any footage of Andretti, Depailler, Pironi in these days driving a simple Cosworth DFV is the grunt - how is it possible with an 8-cylinder engine? They sure lost a lot of power through the exhaust pipe...


#28 aditya-now

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 19:58

what's a cattle grid moment?


Never heard of that term either, but the first video shows some very definite DTM stampedes...

The Sound Of DTM here http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

not just some stupid music which makes the engine howls go amiss.

Edited by aditya-now, 25 January 2011 - 20:00.


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Posted 26 January 2011 - 03:31

and one of the finest Rally Cars of all time..... PURE FIRE SPITTING NOISE!!!
http://www.youtube.c...feature=related


I simply do not get why people are so easy on the current reg changes to F1, they look stupid and sound aenemic, how good does that Audi sound! What an angry bastard.

#30 Andrew Hope

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 05:02

If we're talking sound.. listen to these all the way through. Car porn.

BRM V16. (The fly bys :love:)

BRM V12.

Matra 650.

Group B pure sound ONE & TWO.

McLaren F1 GTR.

BMW E36.



#31 klyster

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 06:39

i havnt actually watched this but its supposed to be good


Thanks for that :D

Seeing Mike Hammer as the narrator was funny :lol:

#32 MrMonaco

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 09:27

"Sprint-race fight" during 12H of Sebring
Blundell's qualy lap for Le Mans
Button vs. Kubica in Valencia
Highcroft Racing In-Car camera @ Laguna Seca
A different view of a famous crash

Sorry, I didn't checked that out ;)

Edited by MrMonaco, 26 January 2011 - 10:51.


#33 Risil

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 14:39

A different view of a famous crash


Interesting, it looks much more of a glancing blow than it did on the TV feed.

#34 motoman2100

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 21:10

Interesting, it looks much more of a glancing blow than it did on the TV feed.



the first impact yes was a glancing blow but that only straightened him out for the second impact with was the bad one