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#1 jamesdc

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 12:48

Hi guys, first post here.

im a 3D Artist that creates models for games and movies...and in my spare time, create accurate cars.

having a very hard time finding good pictures of the 1977' P34/2, which, I want to model in 3d in extreme detail. (along with the transport truck...but pictures of that are even harder to find). ive done a search of this forum, but seems a lot of photos are no longer online

so please, if anyone has any high resolution paddock pictures of the p34/2 with the canopy removed, I would very much appreciate it! I will also keep this forum abreast of further modelling developments if anyone is interested. (im planning an animation)

(I know the 1976 p34 has a lot more coverage, and im interested in doing one if I cant find enough for the 77', but I would want to make the 76' Japan GP version)

here's some samples of my previous work - http://www.vimeo.com/8587815

Cheers

James,



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#2 rwills

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 12:53

James,

The car (P34/2) will be at the Goodwood Festival of Speed and I'm sure you would be able to have a good look over it, take plenty of photos etc.

Roger


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Posted 21 June 2010 - 13:23

Hi James,

I dabble in a bit of 3D Max in my spare time, haven't done much lately though. I had a bash at modelling the P34 a couple of years back, not too detailed though.

Here is the render:-

http://neilgrocock.d...6...27?q=1&qo=1



I also had a go at a Lotus 78

http://neilgrocock.d...allery/#/dp1pov



and a Williams FW14B

http://neilgrocock.d...allery/#/dplc31



The rest of my 3D work is here:-

http://neilgrocock.d...rt.com/gallery/


At the time i managed to find all i needed of the internet, try google searching tamiya p34 and p34 blueprints on an image search, i was fortunate to have built the Tamiya model of this car so had the build instructions for this which helped.

Have fun, and post the results here.

Cheers!

Neil

PS enjoy the Festival of Speed, you can't beat it!


#4 jamesdc

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 03:52

Hi James,

I dabble in a bit of 3D Max in my spare time, haven't done much lately though. I had a bash at modelling the P34 a couple of years back, not too detailed though.

Here is the render:-

http://neilgrocock.d...6...27?q=1&qo=1



I also had a go at a Lotus 78

http://neilgrocock.d...allery/#/dp1pov



and a Williams FW14B

http://neilgrocock.d...allery/#/dplc31



The rest of my 3D work is here:-

http://neilgrocock.d...rt.com/gallery/


At the time i managed to find all i needed of the internet, try google searching tamiya p34 and p34 blueprints on an image search, i was fortunate to have built the Tamiya model of this car so had the build instructions for this which helped.

Have fun, and post the results here.

Cheers!

Neil

PS enjoy the Festival of Speed, you can't beat it!


some nice stuff there neil! well since youve already done a 76', i guess im stuck doing the 77' then :lol:


Roger- unfortunantly im based in Tokyo, Japan...goodwood is a touch out of my reach. i'll just hope someone gets some good shots!


#5 Peter Morley

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 18:14

some nice stuff there neil! well since youve already done a 76', i guess im stuck doing the 77' then :lol:


Roger- unfortunantly im based in Tokyo, Japan...goodwood is a touch out of my reach. i'll just hope someone gets some good shots!


Don't Tamiya still have a P34?
That might be close enough for you to visit?

#6 f1steveuk

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 18:18

There was a whole car in the museum in Suzuka last time I was there, a little south of Tokyo, but not as far as Goodwood, assuming it's still there of course!

#7 jamesdc

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 23:26

There was a whole car in the museum in Suzuka last time I was there, a little south of Tokyo, but not as far as Goodwood, assuming it's still there of course!


Steve - i would be happy to goto suzuka for the weekend. i'll try to hunt up which museum it was at, cheers


Peter - i have the tamiya models, but since they are plastic molded, they dont have the detail I need (ie, detailed suspension, geabox, rivits, welds, duct tape etc)

#8 Arjan de Roos

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 06:21

Peter - i have the tamiya models, but since they are plastic molded, they dont have the detail I need (ie, detailed suspension, geabox, rivits, welds, duct tape etc)


Peter meant Tamiya has one of the real P34's, in fact the 1976 model. It must still be in their showroom at the Shizuoka City HQ. With the Shinkansen 1-2 hours away for you.


#9 Arjan de Roos

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 06:24

James, checkout www.tamiya.com/english/news/event/visit/visit.htm


#10 jamesdc

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 06:42

James, checkout www.tamiya.com/english/news/event/visit/visit.htm


thanks Arjan and Peter, its a 76' but if things keep going the way they are with the 77' reference...its probably my best bet...ive been collecting reference for both cars, but the 76's photo folder is by far bigger.

I wonder if they would agree to take the bodywork off? :lol:

#11 Peter Morley

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 07:17

thanks Arjan and Peter, its a 76' but if things keep going the way they are with the 77' reference...its probably my best bet...ive been collecting reference for both cars, but the 76's photo folder is by far bigger.

I wonder if they would agree to take the bodywork off? :lol:


I wonder if the P34 at Suzuka was the Tamiya one?

I've found with museums that if you tell them what you are doing and ask the right person they can be quite helpful (e.g. let you undress the car), but Tamiya might decide that it is better to try to sell you one of their kits instead...

Apparently Tamiya have just released a 1977 Monaco P34 in 1/20th scale as well as the recent 1/10 scale R/C 1976 version (which used the original bodyshell) so they presumably have the requisite information.

#12 f1steveuk

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 17:01

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#13 Cam2InfoNeeded

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 22:10

Probably not in such a small size. Anyway to link to a large image?

#14 jamesdc

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 00:47

Probably not in such a small size. Anyway to link to a large image?


I have a slightly larger version of that picture, but yeah, even mine is a touch small.

ive found this book which im going to order -

http://ec2.images-am...L500_AA300_.jpg

hopefully will be a bit of a treasure trove

anyway, i'll get started on the bodywork and wheels, as thats the most complete reference I have right now.

#15 Bruno

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 05:27

(Tamiya 1978)


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#16 f1steveuk

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 14:05

Probably not in such a small size. Anyway to link to a large image?



PM me your email address and I'll send it staraight off my laptop

#17 buckaluck

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 14:55

Hi if you email me your email i'll send you some cutaway's and I also have shot's of the car from Watkins Glen and Long Beach. I also got shots of the 76 liveried car with and without bodywork at the Monterey Historics a couple of years ago. So aside from livery and minor bodywork changes were there many changes in the front for the chassis?

Buck

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#18 rwills

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 19:15

As I said previously, the car is at Goodwood this weekend and I promise a lot of access for photos etc to any TNFer who asks.

Come and look us up.

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 20:30

As I said previously, the car is at Goodwood this weekend and I promise a lot of access for photos etc to any TNFer who asks.

Come and look us up.


I am asking for some! :up:
Thanks in advance!
By the way: which "chassis" will race at Goodwood?
Gab

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#20 macoran

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 21:54

Hi if you email me your email i'll send you some cutaway's and I also have shot's of the car from Watkins Glen and Long Beach. I also got shots of the 76 liveried car with and without bodywork at the Monterey Historics a couple of years ago. So aside from livery and minor bodywork changes were there many changes in the front for the chassis?

Buck

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Are there cutaways that haven't been posted on the cutaway thread by any chance ?

#21 rwills

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 02:14

I am asking for some! :up:
Thanks in advance!
By the way: which "chassis" will race at Goodwood?
Gab



P34/2 - the ex Depailler car, ran race number 4 in 76/77

#22 vekspeed

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 07:33

Took a couple at Goodwood...

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#23 gablet

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 12:16

Took a couple at Goodwood...

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:clap: :clap: :clap:
Thanks Vekspeed, please, please, show us some more!
That is the Donington Collection car, really interesting subject because apart from the safety system ( :well: ) it's running in the exactly same 1977 F1 Championship configuration.
Gab

#24 buckaluck

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 14:48

Are there cutaways that haven't been posted on the cutaway thread by any chance ?



They may be not sure what all is on the cutaway thread.

Buck

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 14:49

:clap: :clap: :clap:
Thanks Vekspeed, please, please, show us some more!
That is the Donington Collection car, really interesting subject because apart from the safety system ( :well: ) it's running in the exactly same 1977 F1 Championship configuration.
Gab


Got any shots of the AVS Shadow?

Thanks in advance, Buck.


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Posted 11 January 2011 - 17:09

Hi guys,

I've uploaded all 75 10MP pictures I took of the P34/2 at FOS2010 to Oron. I hope they are of interest to some of you :)
P34-2 at FOS2010.rar - 265.2 Mb

I've also got 2 1080p clips of the WDK guys firing up the engine and pumping up the hydraulic clutch. Let me know if anyone wants them (350MB each).


Thank you Roger for taking the car to Goodwood, it was the highlight of the event for me! :wave:

Edited by RemcoHitman, 13 January 2011 - 23:33.


#27 ibsenop

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 15:36

Hi guys,

I've uploaded all 75 10MP pictures I took of the P34/2 at FOS2010 to Oron. I hope they are of interest to some of you :)
P34-2 at FOS2010.rar - 265.2 Mb

I've also got 2 1080p clips of the DKW guys firing up the engine and pumping up the hydraulic clutch. Let me know if anyone wants them (350MB each).


Thank you Roger for taking the car to Goodwood, it was the highlight of the event for me! :wave:


Fantastic set of photos - lots of detail.
Thank you for share them with us.

#28 gablet

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 17:54

Great pictures, many thanks!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

#29 ralt12

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 20:05

Here's the earlier car as seen at Laguna in 2008. I believe it was P34/8, the one made up from the test spares. (Note: these were sent to me, and I can't vouch for copyright issues, nor would I spell Tyrrell the way he does):
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#30 ralt12

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 20:53

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 20:55

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 20:57

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#34 Bruno

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 16:33

magnifique!!!

#35 f1steveuk

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 19:05

I take it the front anti roll bar was altered (the direction it goes) as it interfered with the drivers legs?

#36 gio66

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 19:26

Taken at Mugello 2007 (sorry for poor quality)

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#37 tyrrellp346wheels

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 17:55

Does anyone know witch team runs Martin Stretton's Tyrrell P34 in the TGP series.

#38 gio66

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 18:47

Does anyone know witch team runs Martin Stretton's Tyrrell P34 in the TGP series.


Martin Stretton Racing Ltd

Oak Farm, Far Forest, Kidderminster, Worcestershire, DY14 9EA

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 21:56

Thank you :wave:

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#40 mrut29

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 06:02

Here's some I took at Laguna last year. Likely the same car as 2008


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#41 mrut29

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 06:05

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 11:35

A couple of shots from Watkins Glen in 1977.

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#43 gio66

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 11:55

Thank you :wave:


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#44 ibsenop

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 23:47

Tyrrell P34 cutaways from "The cutaway drawing and its artists" Forum Topic (see index page 190)

http://forums.autosp...a...t&p=3526229

http://forums.autosp...a...t&p=3543653

http://forums.autosp...a...t&p=4456271

http://forums.autosp...a...t&p=4672640

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 02:11

Thanks Ibsenop! I missed the Edward Valigursky drawing before, I like it very much :)

The Buhrer cutaway, though, is pretty off as far as the A-frame is concerned.

Betti rules the roost IMO :cool:

Edited by RemcoHitman, 30 January 2011 - 02:13.


#46 ibsenop

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 18:23

Tyrrell P34 front wheel section
SKF - La revista de rodamientos 194 - 1978

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#47 jamesdc

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Posted 07 April 2011 - 15:52

you guys are incredible, thanks!

its taken quite a while to collect enough reference (and various jobs interfering with the modelling) but ready to rock now :)

I also purchased the japanese Joe Honda Tyrrell P34 book, quite good, im pretty much good to go i'd say

cheers

james,

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Posted 07 April 2011 - 15:58

you guys are incredible, thanks!

its taken quite a while to collect enough reference (and various jobs interfering with the modelling) but ready to rock now :)

I also purchased the japanese Joe Honda Tyrrell P34 book, quite good, im pretty much good to go i'd say

cheers

james,




Fantastic book! I've got to have that in my collection :clap:


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Posted 05 May 2011 - 14:32

Hi guys, I found an excellent picture set on some obscure forum.

High resolution photos taken during a P34/2 test on Silverstone in 2010.
The accompanying article was featured in Dutch magazine Autovisie amongst others (2 Sept. 2010).

http://www.supraforu...rell-Project-34

Edited by RemcoHitman, 05 May 2011 - 14:33.


#50 jamesdc

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 14:43

Hi guys, I found an excellent picture set on some obscure forum.

High resolution photos taken during a P34/2 test on Silverstone in 2010.
The accompanying article was featured in Dutch magazine Autovisie amongst others (2 Sept. 2010).

http://www.supraforu...rell-Project-34


jackpot! fantastic images