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[PretentiousBread]

During the live entertainment at the Woodlands campsite on Saturday night, none other than Eddie Jordan was introduced to make a cameo appearance on drums for the band playing. Not sure if this is a regular thing, but I know that he usually does something like this at the after party on the Sunday. Anyway, before taking his to his drum throne he had a typically embarrassing/hilarious spell on the mic ranting things along the lines of "There's two words that keep me coming back to the BBC for this shite for two years"...... I thought, 'The money'? Then he blurted out "YOU F**KERS!"

He then went onto say "Coming from an Irish man, you can understand me when I say a little German is going to **** you lot up tomorrow!" This quip got noticeably fewer laughs but was my personal favourite. Anyone else witness this? It amazed me as it wasn't that late and was infront of plenty of families which sort of made me wince

Edited by PretentiousBread, 13 July 2010 - 22:32.

[Ashe]

For a bit of it, try searching for "eddie jordan germans" on Youtube... obviously contains swearing as detailed above though!

Edited by Ashe, 13 July 2010 - 22:34.

[ron_dennis]

Eddie showing why most people think he is a t___t!

[Buttoneer]

Indeed - but more to this story.

[Little Leaf]

Eddie showing why most people think he is a t___t!

Exactly.

Embarrassing

[Kraken]

During the live entertainment at the Woodlands campsite on Saturday night, none other than Eddie Jordan was introduced to make a cameo appearance on drums for the band playing. Not sure if this is a regular thing, but I know that he usually does something like this at the after party on the Sunday. Anyway, before taking his to his drum throne he had a typically embarrassing/hilarious spell on the mic ranting things along the lines of "There's two words that keep me coming back to the BBC for this shite for two years"...... I thought, 'The money'? Then he blurted out "YOU F**KERS!"

He then went onto say "Coming from an Irish man, you can understand me when I say a little German is going to **** you lot up tomorrow!" This quip got noticeably fewer laughs but was my personal favourite. Anyone else witness this? It amazed me as it wasn't that late and was infront of plenty of families which sort of made me wince

He actually said "What is the word that I've wanted to say on the BBC for 18 months"

[jjcale]

EJ is legend...He's the last guy to start a winning privateer team... and he did it in the era when F1 was going corporate (ie swimming against the tide). I dont understand how people who (I am guessing) probably havnt achieved anything in life close to what he has can sit behind their little screen and think that they are entitled to call him a "Twit".... and for what, they dont like some superficial aspect of his personality. That is just sad.

He is the only one on the BBC panel who is not kissing ass and who actually asks serious questions of the team bosses and spokespeople because he is the only one who is not thinking about what future ramification asking a particular question will have for him the future.

OK - he talks with a funny accent and he rambles a bit and he's a little irreverent but people need understand that we are actually lucky to have someone with his experience on our screens every other weekend ...and when he gets serious he tends to be more insightful than the others.


.... and the campsite rant is funny. y'all need to lighten up.

[D.M.N.]

Another video:

[Lifew12]

EJ is legend...He's the last guy to start a winning privateer team

You sure about that?

[Ross Stonefeld]

EJ is legend...He's the last guy to start a winning privateer team... and he did it in the era when F1 was going corporate (ie swimming against the tide). I dont understand how people who (I am guessing) probably havnt achieved anything in life close to what he has can sit behind their little screen and think that they are entitled to call him a "Twit".... and for what, they dont like some superficial aspect of his personality. That is just sad.

Well how about these personality aspects. He ran his team into the ground. Not before skimming off lots of money for himself, including a very healthy payout from Honda that he put into his own pocket. Or when he sued Vodafone claiming they had a sponsorship contract with him and not Ferrari, when the truth was nowhere even close to that.

[Little Leaf]

You sure about that?

Jackie Stewart?

[Lifew12]

Jackie Stewart?

Indeed.

[onemoresolo]

I thought it was really funny, especially the bit about Button's chances of winning the race (not sure if that was captured in any of the videos posted above). It was in good spirits, he'd had a few drinks and was enjoying himself. I don't see the harm in that.

[PretentiousBread]

He is the only one on the BBC panel who is not kissing ass and who actually asks serious questions of the team bosses and spokespeople because he is the only one who is not thinking about what future ramification asking a particular question will have for him the future.

Whoa, I have to totally disagree with this. If this sentence was in reference to Ted Kravitz then yes, spot on. Have you never seen Eddie Jordan speaking to Bernie?

[Hacklerf]

The BBC coverage is all the better with EJ there

[Boing 2]

You sure about that?

i think you could phrase it better but the fact is that since ron dennis bought McLaren only eddie Jordan and Jackie Stewart were able to start privateer teams and win a race (until last year with red bull and Brawn) That's just 2 guys in a gap of 30 years to achive success which deserves a bit of respect.

When you then factor in that Ron bought an existing team, that Brawn had an exsisting manufacturer team given to him for free with a Honda budget for the year, that Mateschitz bought an existing manufacturer team and had a billion dollar business empire to fund it with and even Jackie had a 5 year contract with one of the worlds biggest car companies to help him along it gets even more impressive.

Jordan was the only team to be started from scratch with no financial support since Frank Williams in 77 to go on to win a race (3 in fact, and fight briefly for the title). From 1978 until today no one else has started a team from scratch with no financial support and won a race. That's 33 years and counting.

[Lifew12]

Jordan was the only team to be started from scratch with no financial support .....

No financial support? He had excellent sponsorship and some very canny contacts.

I was talking about Stewart, anyway.

[Boing 2]

No financial support? He had excellent sponsorship and some very canny contacts.

I was talking about Stewart, anyway.

i mean he wasn't bankrolled by a manufacturer or supported by a business empire, it was all commercial sponsorship.

[Ross Stonefeld]

He had some government money.

[Murdoch]

I witnessed it, and my opinion of him has slightly changed.

There, as far as I could tell, was no need to be at the campsite (apart from the beer tent...) as it certainly wasn't a promo for the BBC So to take the time out and spread a bit of humor and get the atmosphere going was appreciated by most (i think!). Not bad on the drums neither!

Touching on the campsite, what an improvement this year! Beer tent, big screen, stage, live music, assorted food vans/tents, supermarket............

Last year we just had skanky portaloos and cold showers, that was it.

Thumbs up from me

[jjcale]

Well how about these personality aspects. He ran his team into the ground. Not before skimming off lots of money for himself, including a very healthy payout from Honda that he put into his own pocket. Or when he sued Vodafone claiming they had a sponsorship contract with him and not Ferrari, when the truth was nowhere even close to that.

These things are true - and if people disliked him for that then I would have no problem with that. I also remember the judge serverely criticising the veracity of his evidence at the end of a trial.... bad legal advice most likely.

But people dislike him for stupid superficial things... like rambling a bit during broadcasts and miss his great insight.

For what its worth I would love to have someone like Flavio as part of the BBC team... I want info and insight and I dont care about much else.... least of all whether someone is media trained.

[ensign14]

These things are true - and if people disliked him for that then I would have no problem with that. I also remember the judge serverely criticising the veracity of his evidence at the end of a trial.... bad legal advice most likely.

No, he had decent enough lawyers, Fladgate Fielder; in F1 terms they're a sort of de la Rosa, passably good reputation, not spectacular, safe pair of hands. No lawyer is ever going to tell a client to go to Court based on witness evidence alone. And it is even less likely that a partner at a law firm clearing half a million p.a. is going to risk his livelihood by telling his client to forge written evidence to help his case.

Most likely his Vodafone case was a Hail Mary. His team was in shtuk, it needed a miracle, here was a million to one shot. And I doubt that Jordan or his lawyers ever intended it to go to Court, they were probably hoping to force a settlement. Note how he capitulated completely post-trial when it was obvious that his evidence was rubbish...

[jjcale]

No, he had decent enough lawyers, Fladgate Fielder; in F1 terms they're a sort of de la Rosa, passably good reputation, not spectacular, safe pair of hands. No lawyer is ever going to tell a client to go to Court based on witness evidence alone. And it is even less likely that a partner at a law firm clearing half a million p.a. is going to risk his livelihood by telling his client to forge written evidence to help his case.

Most likely his Vodafone case was a Hail Mary. His team was in shtuk, it needed a miracle, here was a million to one shot. And I doubt that Jordan or his lawyers ever intended it to go to Court, they were probably hoping to force a settlement. Note how he capitulated completely post-trial when it was obvious that his evidence was rubbish...

Forge written evidence... eh? I didnt mention that.

From memory.... EJ's entire case was based on an undocumented one and one conversation which went against all the docs and everyone else's memory. That was a classic case that should have been settled for nuisance value. In fairness to Fladgates, I could imagine EJ insisting against advice that he wanted to proceed but the case was pretty disasterous for his reputation and they should have strong armed him to settle cheaply (or even withdraw) for his own good. The judge pretty much called him a liar... It doesnt get any worse than that. Once he lost that case - in that manner - there was no chance of any significant sponsors joining up. It was a disaster.

[klyster]

I dont understand how people who (I am guessing) probably havnt achieved anything in life close to what he has can sit behind their little screen and think that they are entitled to call him a "Twit".... and for what, they dont like some superficial aspect of his personality. That is just sad.

I think they probably meant to say "****".;)

[Paul Prost]

Well how about these personality aspects. He ran his team into the ground. Not before skimming off lots of money for himself, including a very healthy payout from Honda that he put into his own pocket. Or when he sued Vodafone claiming they had a sponsorship contract with him and not Ferrari, when the truth was nowhere even close to that.

I'd agree with that. Having spoken to (senior) people who worked with Eddie at the time, I don't think he's a very nice person.

Don't forget that Fisichella took him to court in 2006 (and won) for unpaid wages. This was not uncommon.

[baddog]

I dislike him for telling everyone last year that felipe massa was completely fine and chatting, from a double super top secret source of his. Later on we find out Felipe had a hole in his head and was in a coma.

Yeah thanks Eddie...

[peroa]

These things are true - and if people disliked him for that then I would have no problem with that. I also remember the judge serverely criticising the veracity of his evidence at the end of a trial.... bad legal advice most likely.

But people dislike him for stupid superficial things... like rambling a bit during broadcasts and miss his great insight.

For what its worth I would love to have someone like Flavio as part of the BBC team... I want info and insight and I dont care about much else.... least of all whether someone is media trained.

No, no. At least I dislike him for what he is, a d***. He took advantage of his team, bought himself fancy yachts and sh** while his team was going down.

I'd agree with that. Having spoken to (senior) people who worked with Eddie at the time, I don't think he's a very nice person.

Don't forget that Fisichella took him to court in 2006 (and won) for unpaid wages. This was not uncommon.

Don't forget firing HHF per fax in Monza IIRC. HHF took him to court and sued for some 15 mio € IIRC.


Am quite surprised how the BBC is spending tax payers money on him and people get all furious when Ron cuts some wires which cost peanuts.



EDIT: See how "special" EJ is. My 6000th post is completely dedicated to him.

Edited by peroa, 15 July 2010 - 04:19.

[lbennie]

i used to hate him, but am warming to him quite alot this season.......

[LukeM]

I used to think he was unbearable to watch, but I am beginning to really like him this season. He drills the hard questions like no other.

[ensign14]

Forge written evidence... eh? I didnt mention that.

From memory.... EJ's entire case was based on an undocumented one and one conversation which went against all the docs and everyone else's memory.

The key bit of evidence from Jordan's side was a telephone note written by Ian Phillips documenting Jordan's conversation with the Vodafone chap. Proved at trial to have not been contemporaneous. Jordan did try to withdraw at a very, very late stage but the judge actually refused to sanction the discontinuance on the basis that Vodafone's reputation had to be salvaged.

[aditya-now]

i used to hate him, but am warming to him quite alot this season.......

Yeah, same with me, the problem with Eddie is that first you think "who is that guy, how on earth can he be taken serious". Next thing is you start to think about some of his offerings.
Next they start to sound somehow acceptable.

Next thing - you start to take Eddie serious!

Next - you are waiting for his utterings.

I think Eddie uses a subtle technique of brain washing!

[aditya-now]

I used to think he was unbearable to watch, but I am beginning to really like him this season. He drills the hard questions like no other.

Probably this is strategy from the BBC - use the clown to drill the hard questions. Yet it works quite well.