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[John Nelson]

I forwarded some old color photos of Monza scanned from a long out-of-print book to Bruce Kennewell, who has graciously posted them at: http://big.business....rmula_1.htm#3.0

They include color shots of Moss pursuing Hawthorne circa 1958 and rounding the Ascari curve with the banking visible in the background. Also, gaudy American roadsters on the banking (going COUNTER-clockwise) in one of the "Races of the Two Worlds." A number of shots from 1960 GP show the placement of the starting grid. AND, among others, there is a color photo of the drivers' meeting before the 1966 Italian Grand Prix. If anyone cares to take a try at their identities, I'll let you know how close you've come! But,you won't get them all unless you've memorized the backs of their heads (Don Capps, maybe?)!

I thought some of you here might appreciate these. I don't believe I've seen them anywhere else before (though I've sent some to other websites) but I'm not a historical expert.

John Nelson

[Don Capps]

John,

Here goes:

From left to right: Richie Ginther, Jochen Rindt (kerchief), Denny Hulme, Peter Arundell (orange helmet), Mike Spence, Mike Parkes, Jim Clark, Joakim Bonnier & Jack Brabham. With Bernard Cahier in the left hand corner in the flat hat taking pictures...

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Yr fthfl & hmbl srvnt,

Don Capps

Semper Gumbi: If this was easy, we’d have the solution already…



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[Ray Bell]

I can't recall the car accredited to Bandini.. "1961 at the Nurburgring)... seems to me to be a flat eight!
They had a flat 12 in 64/65, but I don't recall a flat 8 at all.. and seeing as they fell on their backsides with the V6 in 1962, by which time I was following things closely, I would have thought such an option would have been followed if available.

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[Roger Clark]

It's the V8 and 1965. The V8 had vertical inlets between the camshafts and looked rather like a flat 8. THere is also a picture of Bandini in the Monza pits captioned as an F2 Ferarri. It is actually a formula junior Lotus (20 of 22?). A number of other pictures are incorreclty captioned.

[John Nelson]

Criminy Don! You got 'em all right! The only way I can think of for you to have gotten even Arundell right would be if you've seen this photo before (I have forwarded it to others as well) or you took it yourself!

Unfortunately, some of the captions and ID's that ended up being posted ARE incorrect. Ray, the photo of Bandini in the Karussel is definitely from 1965, not '61, and the photo of Bandini on the grid at Monza is identified only as being a Lotus. The color photos of Moss and Hawthorne are at the 1958 Italian GP, not '56. The captions were correct when I uploaded. I'll let the webmaster know!

[Don Capps]

John, Rest assured, I had not seen that photo before! Indeed, I wished I had since it is an interesting one. I am now trying to place names to faces of some of the others in the photo! Glad to know I did not waste my youth on silly things like academics... and instead concentrated on really important things like racing and er, ah....

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Yr fthfl & hmbl srvnt,

Don Capps

Semper Gumbi: If this was easy, we’d have the solution already…

[John Nelson]

Don, if you were able to identify many drivers just by the backs of their heads, all I can say is, You're The Man! Amazing. Glad you found the photo interesting. My old (well, 1972 if you consider that old) book, "History of the Racing Car" by Giovanni Lurani, has some other great color shots, including a good quality color photo of Alberto Ascari. I assume there aren't that many of those around. If you would like me to forward that one, let me know and I'll be happy to do so. By the way, your youth seems to have been well spent to me!

[Barry Lake]

Giovanni Lurani.Now there's a name that brings back memories. Not only an excellent driver but a man who devoted a large part of his life to administering the sport.
I had never heard of him when I bought my first racing car, a 10 year old Cooper MkV Norton, in 1961.
As I once told in another thread, Lurani's "Racing Round the World" was among a pile of books the previous owner gave me with the car.
It was some years before I got around to reading it, I was so busy racing, but enjoyed it immensely and was very aware of Lurani as a writer and administrator - and in the history books - ever since.
Then, in 1976, I was co-driving for fellow scribe James Laing-Peach in a Lancia Beta Coupe in the Southern Cross International Rally. The promotional start was in front of the Sydney Opera House.
I was sitting in the car sorting through maps and things when a tall, well-dressed man came over to me and said, in excellent English, "Excuse me, I realise you must be very busy, but I would like to introduce myself. I used to compete in Lancias myself..."
Yes, it was Johnny Lurani.
I was gob-smacked, but recognised him as soon as he said who he was.
I think he was the FIA delegate for the event. Our car gave up on the first night
(the Bilstein man had given us the wrong front shocks) so I didn't get a chance to see him again during the rally.

[Ray Bell]

... Robert wouldn't have done that!

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