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[David M. Kane]

Why is Eddie Jordan on everyone's case? He's trashed MS and piss off most of the paddock.

[Tenmantaylor]

Think he's just enjoying being a relative outsider to the sport these days and doesn't really have to care too much about who's bonfire he pisses on.

[Slowinfastout]

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[Owen]

http://www.pitpass.c...es_art_id=41497

[Ferrari_F1_fan_2001]

He's being controversial for the sake of being controversial. If he sang from the same hymn sheet at Coulthard and the rest of them it wouldn't provide a holistic analysis of certain situations. Though, that said, some of his comments are just borderline ridiculous and his brown nosing of certain people (Bernie) and embarrasing of others (team bosses) is downright cringeworthy.

You get the feeling though that most of the paddock view him as someone who just likes talking for the sake of talking and trying to hard to stand out in the crowd.

I find it interesting, especially when him and Coulthard kick off. He adds value, but he is getting too big for his boots.

Edited by Ferrari_F1_fan_2001, 23 July 2010 - 15:42.

[DrF]

I hit the mute button whenever he starts talking.

[undersquare]

Eddie

Michael

[jimjimjeroo]

I used to really like Eddie, since he became BBC F1 pundit the like has very rapidly become dislike! He disagrees circuit sake of disagreeing, he is wrong about more or less everything he says him and Legard should get the boot! Draft in someone good!!

[OwenC93]

I like him.

[Henrytheeigth]

Just think of him as a time filler, I mean that's all those 3 amigos do, fill in time lol

[Fastcake]

He's just being Eddie, chill off

I like the chap, he has the ability to say whatever he wants and not give a s*#t.

[FlatOverCrest]

Just think of him as a time filler, I mean that's all those 3 amigos do, fill in time lol

I would switch Croft, Davidson and Chandhok for those 3 in a heartbeat...

Karun on the practice commentary today was absolutely bloody superb!

I also think Croft is 20 times better than Leggard!

[The Ragged Edge]

I hit the mute button whenever he starts talking.

You are seriously missing out then. Coulthard is a PR man, who is scared to ask any tough questions. Jordan puts them on the spot and they cant wriggle out of it. What style do you prefer? OK he is no cerebral assassin, but neither is he a shrinking violet. For every silly question, he has a good one also. While Coulthard is as boring as hell.

[Henrytheeigth]

I would switch Croft, Davidson and Chandhok for those 3 in a heartbeat...

Karun on the practice commentary today was absolutely bloody superb!

I also think Croft is 20 times better than Leggard!

Only in our dreams can wishes come true

[goat0063]

Karun on the practice commentary today was absolutely bloody superb!

Absolutely. Knowledgeable, considered and spoke with class and humility. Top bloke.

[Calorus]

Okay, I'll bite - he's actually always been like this. Massively outspoken but massively talented.

He went from scratch to a 1-2 with two fair to middling drivers without ever having been muscled by a road car manufacturer in 7 years, and managed to be at a race at which every single driver to score point had been employed by him at some point and all spending less money than some of Ferrari's individual lower rung sponsors were paying them.

Now a lot of what he talks is comedy bullshit, but frankly the man's record tends to carry enough credibility to polish some of the turd.

But frankly I think Jordan's criticisms of Horner, MS v.2010 et al. have been wholly justified, Coulthard is, frankly eye-wateringly biased (by still being on the Red Bull payroll), Jake Humphrey doesn't know his arse from a blown diffuser, Ted Kravitz is reliant on goodwill from the pitlane so needs to be careful whose toes he stamps on and Martin Brundle generally says quite similar things, but is 1,200 times more subtle in the way he says them.

[Henrytheeigth]

Absolutely. Knowledgeable, considered and spoke with class and humility. Top bloke.

Still hate how he didn't move over for Alonso at Canada though, yes the scars are still fresh hehe

[PNSD]

Agreed with the above post.

Eddie might sound abit outdated, he might be out of his depth as a pundit, but as a team-boss the guy did great things!!

To think he nearly won the championship in 1999 with a 2nd tier driver is amazing. I did like HHF alot btw but he was never a great.

Ive come to enjoy eddie's outlandish claims about nothing. The guy is a 'character'.

[goat0063]

Still hate how he didn't move over for Alonso at Canada though, yes the scars are still fresh hehe

Alonso didn't have problems with slower cars in Canada.....oh wait...

[KateLM]

Nothings up with EJ, he sometimes has some rather bizarre and inconsistent opinions but other times he is spot on, and he isn't afraid to skirt around a topic or ask difficult questions. DC, on the other hand, you can hear the panic in his voice when he is asked to comment on a situation between the two Red Bulls, while he sits on the fence.

[midgrid]

This is nice, if he isnt on TV. Just shut the **** up.


What the **** is nobble?

Slang for sabotage, e.g. cutting the wires of his headphones.

[Lights]

He's being controversial for the sake of being controversial.

All that needs to be said, really. It's tv, he's always been outspoken, add that together and you get this.

[Polle]

The man is often outspoken and disagrees for the sake of conversation. Not that its always bad though

[Archybald]

How boring would it be if they just agree'd with all the teams?

I see his role as poking the bear seeing if it bites its own hand off. While generally being entertaining in the process. I think alot would be lost if we lost eddie as a pundit.

[F1Champion]

He's being controversial for the sake of being controversial. If he sang from the same hymn sheet at Coulthard and the rest of them it wouldn't provide a holistic analysis of certain situations. Though, that said, some of his comments are just borderline ridiculous and his brown nosing of certain people (Bernie) and embarrasing of others (team bosses) is downright cringeworthy.

You get the feeling though that most of the paddock view him as someone who just likes talking for the sake of talking and trying to hard to stand out in the crowd.

I find it interesting, especially when him and Coulthard kick off. He adds value, but he is getting too big for his boots.

Totally agree. His views are totally stupid coming from someone with substantial F1 experience. It makes me wonder how he could of ran an F1 team. His opinions are based on such poor evidence, he seems to be a joke with Horner, Whitmarsh and Domenicali.

[F1EC]

EJ's great. There's too much forelock-tugging in F1. He makes me laugh, and he's not afraid to ask the questions we all want asked.
Good luck to him, and long may he continue to take fashion and career risks

[Calorus]

EJ's great. There's too much forelock-tugging in F1. He makes me laugh, and he's not afraid to ask the questions we all want asked.
Good luck to him, and long may he continue to take fashion and career risks

He's taking no career risks, only two other pitlaners are in his club and of them, only Frank Williams is more successful. (Though cigarist Peter Sauber seems nicer by far)

The fashion risks on the other hand are potentially fatal. But I think he'd want to die from some horrific garment related tragedy, so that's okay, too.

[rabbitleader]

EJ's great. There's too much forelock-tugging in F1. He makes me laugh, and he's not afraid to ask the questions we all want asked.
Good luck to him, and long may he continue to take fashion and career risks

Except when it comes to interviewing Bernie Ecclestone.....then he becomes a love sick puppy and can only complement Bernie. Embarrassing!

Edited by rabbitleader, 23 July 2010 - 18:29.

[Disgrace]

I like him too, otherwise we'd be getting one-dimensional interviews on a consistent basis.

[goldenboy]

He loves taking the opposite view to what everyone else is saying, some of the time he probably has to convince himself of it just so he has something different to say.
It seems you either love him or hate him each week depending on if he's taken your side or not. If he has - he's great! Thank god we have someone asking these tough questions!
If he's not - what a ******. He's making himself look like an idiot.

Whether or not I agree with him or not on different occasions, he can quite often make himself look pretty damn stupid.

At the end of the day though, it's great to have him there. Entertaining as hell!!!!!!!!!! FFS we get to watch out for team principals stalking and sabotaging him for the rest of the year

by the way I actually really like coulthards opinions. but then again I'm a webber fan. If he was really that RB biased would he have openly blamed vettel for turkey? I think it's prolly more likely he is biased towards webber due to his similar experience with hak, and they seem to be the same kind of guys (style/morals etc)

Edited by goldenboy, 24 July 2010 - 00:40.

[Rubens Hakkamacher]

When Webber went over the back of Kovalainen, it seemed "obvious" it was Kovalainen's fault. Jordan criticized Webber for not thinking; Coulthard immediately defended Webber, and they sort of got into it. I thought at the time "Jordan is being pretentious telling Coulthard about driving", but in retrospect he was right. It was interesting because Coulthard's indignance seemed obviously justified as well - but he was wrong.

I like that he thinks it's 1977 when it comes to shirts. It'll come back around: guys mocking him on tv wearing pink and lavender shirts probably shouldn't be knocking him for wearing prints, a few years from now it might be "that Eddie Jordan, he always has to dress so trendy". <g>

[King Six]

Nothing really, the guy's EJ

[bourbon]

I don't like him ever since I got stuck listening to him for an entire season and he spent it ragging on Kimi. Then he admitted he was wrong in the final episode at Abu, but by then I just wanted to shove him and all of his pansy colored shirts under a rock. Luckily, I don't have to listen to his nonsense anymore except when we are on race delay and the random feed is BBC. I turn them down anyways though because they are too McLaren biased for my liking.

[goldenboy]

I don't like him ever since I got stuck listening to him for an entire season and he spent it ragging on Kimi. Then he admitted he was wrong in the final episode at Abu, but by then I just wanted to shove him and all of his pansy colored shirts under a rock. Luckily, I don't have to listen to his nonsense anymore except when we are on race delay and the random feed is BBC. I turn them down anyways though because they are too McLaren biased for my liking.

Yep I could easily see him spending a whole year ragging on someone and frustrating fans to only admit he is wrong in the final episode. sounds like something he would do.

[OS X]

I like Eddie Jordan. His attire is retro (or avant-garde depending on the future fluxes of fashion) but stylish. He is as an uninhibited with his questions as he is with his dress sense. His interview style is temerarious but endearing.

Edited by OS X, 24 July 2010 - 05:47.

[christoff]

Is it just me or when asking a question does he usually give his answer in a rambling way first and then turn it into a question?

Oh and by the way I think EJ is a great part of the BBC coverage.

[PassWind]

You are seriously missing out then. Coulthard is a PR man, who is scared to ask any tough questions. Jordan puts them on the spot and they cant wriggle out of it. What style do you prefer? OK he is no cerebral assassin, but neither is he a shrinking violet. For every silly question, he has a good one also. While Coulthard is as boring as hell.

The reason he is boring to you is that he is just matter of fact, rather than trying to spin bullshit for the sake of those with the pining for some sort of Desperate Housewives saga.

Eddie just talks **** and he is an expert Devils Advocate, he is very convincing and hence he made a wad load of cash as a businessman, more swindler than worker, and tis why his idolises Bernie because he is the King of Con.

[PassWind]

When Webber went over the back of Kovalainen, it seemed "obvious" it was Kovalainen's fault. Jordan criticized Webber for not thinking; Coulthard immediately defended Webber, and they sort of got into it. I thought at the time "Jordan is being pretentious telling Coulthard about driving", but in retrospect he was right. It was interesting because Coulthard's indignance seemed obviously justified as well - but he was wrong.

I like that he thinks it's 1977 when it comes to shirts. It'll come back around: guys mocking him on tv wearing pink and lavender shirts probably shouldn't be knocking him for wearing prints, a few years from now it might be "that Eddie Jordan, he always has to dress so trendy". <g>

David wasn't taking an opposing view initially he was offering the other side of the tale as one with reason would, but when goaded by EJ when in his condescending manner tried to tell David how to drive he got his back up, EJ is just to cluey to get into a verbal stoush with for most people.

[lexmeister2]

Jordan's often got slightly outrageous comments, but I like the fact that he isn't afraid to say anything. When they were talking to Horner after the Webber front wing incident, the other two were trying their best not to be offensive but Jordan just came out to his face and said what he thought of the whole thing. It is nice to have someone there who doesn't care about being PC. Sometimes I don't agree with him, but there's no way you can always agree with what they say.

Only thing that annoys me slightly is that Alonso isn't getting half (or even any) of the bashing that Raikkonen got and Alonso's performing far worse so far, and he's adding to it by making a real nuisance of himself in the media by implying the FIA is biased...........I'm sure there are probably a few within Ferrari who probably wish they'd just kept Kimi........

[undersquare]

EJ is great. A clever guy who understands what his job is. And his job is not to be right all the time.

DC is in the wrong job though, he still hasn't relaxed in front of the camera.

[Ferrari_F1_fan_2001]

EJ is great. A clever guy who understands what his job is. And his job is not to be right all the time.

DC is in the wrong job though, he still hasn't relaxed in front of the camera.

He might not have relaxed but he does seem fairly balanced and intelligent whenever he talks.

[Lights]

He might not have relaxed but he does seem fairly balanced and intelligent whenever he talks.

That's it exactly. Imagine two DC's there, I would fall asleep watching.

At least Eddie has something interesting to say now and then.

[clipper]

That's it exactly. Imagine two DC's there, I would fall asleep watching.

At least Eddie has something interesting to say now and then.

and something ridiculous the other times

[DrF]

Oh well done Eddie, 'so there will be no upgrades while Webber is leading the championship'

What a waste of space.

[Henrytheeigth]

That's it exactly. Imagine two DC's there, I would fall asleep watching.

At least Eddie has something interesting to say now and then.

DC is there to blow up engines still when he takes Martin for joyrides

[rabbitleader]

I don't like him ever since I got stuck listening to him for an entire season and he spent it ragging on Kimi. Then he admitted he was wrong in the final episode at Abu, but by then I just wanted to shove him and all of his pansy colored shirts under a rock. Luckily, I don't have to listen to his nonsense anymore except when we are on race delay and the random feed is BBC. I turn them down anyways though because they are too McLaren biased for my liking.

Well McLaren are a truly British team and currently have two British drivers. The last time I checked BBC stood for British Broadcasting Corporation. I'd expect Italian TV to be concentrating on Ferrari and Spanish TV concentrating on which teams Alonso and Alguersauri are currently driving for (and also possibly Hispania Team).

That said, the BBC could focus more on Williams as a Britsh team.

Edited by rabbitleader, 24 July 2010 - 11:57.

[223]

They hired Eddie Jordan because he's a character. Many successful shows have what they call "heels" in pro wrestling, the guy that people love or love to hate. Simon Cowell on those talent shows (that I do not watch), or here in Canada that redneck loudmouth hockey "analyst" named Don Cherry.

[Muz Bee]

Annoying (for me) but doing the job he's there for. Sparking some cheeky or angry replies is what he's there for but to his detriment everyone knows Eddie the joker so they really don't play him at his own game as they probably should. He talks crap but that's OK, Legard is just inept. When Schumacher is struggling to make Q3 poor old Jonathon doesn't seem to see Michael's problem is not beating Alonso's time. Sheeeese, where do the Beeb find these stools?

[Les]

He's entertaining and the person who says two DCs would be boring is right. At least its a world away from the dark days of Steve Ryder and Mark Blundell.

I did think it was bizarre yesterday when he said to Jake and DC 'I never had the pleasure of watching Jim Clark race unlike you too'.