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[mahelgel]

Anyone tried this on the PC?

I've just installed it and tested it... and i'm a bit confused about it. It seems like it handles much like the first one, although, i liked just as well in the first title. The Gfx are pretty nice, but a bit demanding on my computer...

anyone who has tried it both on the playstation and a PC? is there any difference in the handling, or is it pretty much the same??

[DJS]

Haven't tried CM 2 on PC or PSX, but I generally find that games I suck in on PSX I do much better in on PC. NFS III for example. Don;t know if this is because of the controller or what.

[mahelgel]

After playing a it a bit more, i feel that the physics is a bit off... That might be due to the fact that the steering is hard to set up right, and i struggle to find the right steering sensetivity. I feel that it's either to sharp on the turn or slow as a dog. Note that i haven't tried it with a wheel, just a joystick, and it's probably a bit better to judge the steering with a wheel.

[diosh]

I downloaded the demo, and it was kinda stuffed up with my wheel. I had to move the wheel about 15-20 degrees before the car would move left/right, and when i did, it was full lock all of a sudden, something very wrong there. I'll have a fiddle with it later, but anyone else have this problem? Otherwise the graphics are really nice, and its seems good.

[G-R]

I've had it for the PSX for about 6 months, and although its the best rally game on it, I don't really like it.
It's just not my type of game.
I haven't tried it on the computer though, so I guess that doesn't help huh?

[mahelgel]

diosh: that's just the problem i have when using a joystick... i've tried to adjust the steering sensetivity on the car setup, but it still has a "deadzone" which is too large, and when it starts to turn the wheel, it does so very fast indeed... a bit sad because the game seems pretty good had it not been for that little "bug"...

If they make a patch for this game, i hope this is one of the things they look into..

[mahelgel]

Just found out that the is actually better to play this game with the keyboard, rather than with my joystick (CH Mach III). This is pretty wierd i think... never played a game that is better to control with the keyboard, than a joysitck... to bad i don't have a wheel to try it out with..

[HappyDude]

So does this mean that with the *full* version of the game there is a large deadzone that you can't adjust? Come on CodeMasters! What controller settings can you adjust in the game?

[DangerMouse]

I bought it, and it feels pretty good physics-wise. only downer is that on tarmac at full road spec (ie lowest ride height and road tyres) the cars don't seem to grip as well as they should and corner speeds seem lower than what should be possible in the real world.

Very entertaining though with pretty good graphics (all detail and draw distance turned up to max on my Duron 850/GeForce DDR at 1024x768.) Like TOCA 2 with draw distance on max, everything as far as the eye can see is prerendered which gives you a real sense of space and movement.

Another plus is only one disc is required for network play (you can do free network only installs on as many machines as you like) I haven't tried it yet as my brother hasn't got over his Christmas hangover yet!!

Good fun! I think there will be a fair bit of mileage put on this game! (sic)

PS I use a Microsoft FF wheel - Force feedback is temperamental and doesn't work sometimes.

[Gemini]

Originally posted by HappyDude
So does this mean that with the *full* version of the game there is a large deadzone that you can't adjust? Come on CodeMasters! What controller settings can you adjust in the game?

Seems so. It's really annoying. I did not notice any option for advance calibration of a wheel or joystick. Shame!!!

[BT52]

Originally posted by Gemini

Originally posted by HappyDude
So does this mean that with the *full* version of the game there is a large deadzone that you can't adjust? Come on CodeMasters! What controller settings can you adjust in the game?

Seems so. It's really annoying. I did not notice any option for advance calibration of a wheel or joystick. Shame!!!

Sorry but that is all rubbish. The dead zone is totally adjustable on all axes as is the sensitivity.

I also find plenty of grip on tarmac stages, I won every stage on the Italian rally whereas I was struggling on the others. Mind you I did have the Subaru which alledgedly generates the most grip in this game (Focus has best braking).

[MattB]

I have been playing it on my PSone for a few days now. I love it. I am a rally fanatic and the extra cars are alot of fun, even though the cars feel doesn't vary much, it is fun to watch the replays of a Group B Peugeot 205 barking along a stage in Sweden. It isn't really a sim in my opinion, it is a bit to arcade like, but it is tremendous fun if you like rallying.

[Gemini]

Originally posted by BT52

Originally posted by Gemini

Originally posted by HappyDude
So does this mean that with the *full* version of the game there is a large deadzone that you can't adjust? Come on CodeMasters! What controller settings can you adjust in the game?

Seems so. It's really annoying. I did not notice any option for advance calibration of a wheel or joystick. Shame!!!

Sorry but that is all rubbish. The dead zone is totally adjustable on all axes as is the sensitivity.

I also find plenty of grip on tarmac stages, I won every stage on the Italian rally whereas I was struggling on the others. Mind you I did have the Subaru which alledgedly generates the most grip in this game (Focus has best braking).

BT52,

That's more than great!. Could you help with this? How should I adjust it on PC? That game looks great that's why I was so angry not knowing how to adjust "deadzone" of the wheel/joystick. Thanks

[Mellon]

Select controls and choose your wheel. When you click OK. You should get a screen for configuring the buttons; click OK again and up comes a screen with sliders for the different axis on the wheel&pedals, click enter on a slider the adjust deadzones and maximum deflections. (I hope this is correct. Have to reboot to Win98 to check).


There are differences between the cars.
I prefer the Subaru as it is the best overall car; very fast on gravel, quick on ice, too large and cumbersome for tarmac (still fast enough to beat the CPUs in expert mode (power-ratio two steps forward)).
The Mitsubishi comes very close; it's slightly slower on gravel(difference between 1st and 2nd), faster on ice, extremely fast on tarmac(64sec ahead of CPUs in Italy(expert)).
The Seat is superior on tarmac (agile without being jumpy) but too slow on gravel and ice.
The Peugeot is very fast on tarmac and gravel but too jumpy for me and appears to break down quite easily.
The Focus is still a mystery to me it: just doesn't go as fast as the other cars. It doesn't agree with my driving style methinks.
Haven't really tried the bonus cars except for the Puma, which is a lot of fun to drive; agile, responsive, a little sloppy in the slides but easily controlled with the throttle thanks to the excellent acceleration. With some additional practice I think it could be faster than the WRCs.

What bothers me is that it still takes 16 mins to repair the gearbox after you've changed both the differential and the drive shaft.

The opposition appears to be too slow. I'm yet to win the Expert championship, but I finished 2nd, 2 points behind Colin, in my first (and only so far) attempt. I would have won, but lost 10 sec on a bad weather forecast in Australia.
And you get too much grip on full throttle. All non-tarmac rallies become an exercise in pointing the car in the general direction of the road ahead, downshifting and flooring it.

[daz]

I think its a pretty good game actually, once you get used to it. I tried to use the joypad, but it wasnt all that good ... the keyboard is heaps easy to use once you get used to it.

I like to use the Ford Focus, I think it handles the best over the other cars and is pretty fast. Only upto Australia at the moment.

[daz]

graphics wise and gameplay, i find the pc much better.

[BT52]

Originally posted by Mellon
Select controls and choose your wheel. When you click OK. You should get a screen for configuring the buttons; click OK again and up comes a screen with sliders for the different axis on the wheel&pedals, click enter on a slider the adjust deadzones and maximum deflections. (I hope this is correct. Have to reboot to Win98 to check).


There are differences between the cars.
I prefer the Subaru as it is the best overall car; very fast on gravel, quick on ice, too large and cumbersome for tarmac (still fast enough to beat the CPUs in expert mode (power-ratio two steps forward)).
The Mitsubishi comes very close; it's slightly slower on gravel(difference between 1st and 2nd), faster on ice, extremely fast on tarmac(64sec ahead of CPUs in Italy(expert)).
The Seat is superior on tarmac (agile without being jumpy) but too slow on gravel and ice.
The Peugeot is very fast on tarmac and gravel but too jumpy for me and appears to break down quite easily.
The Focus is still a mystery to me it: just doesn't go as fast as the other cars. It doesn't agree with my driving style methinks.
Haven't really tried the bonus cars except for the Puma, which is a lot of fun to drive; agile, responsive, a little sloppy in the slides but easily controlled with the throttle thanks to the excellent acceleration. With some additional practice I think it could be faster than the WRCs.

What bothers me is that it still takes 16 mins to repair the gearbox after you've changed both the differential and the drive shaft.

The opposition appears to be too slow. I'm yet to win the Expert championship, but I finished 2nd, 2 points behind Colin, in my first (and only so far) attempt. I would have won, but lost 10 sec on a bad weather forecast in Australia.
And you get too much grip on full throttle. All non-tarmac rallies become an exercise in pointing the car in the general direction of the road ahead, downshifting and flooring it.

Interesting.
I too think the full throttle thing is a bit unrealistic unless traction control is used in the WRC (don't know myself), just tend to use it as an on/off switch.

Also think the power output on the Puma is ridiculous! Since when did it have 300bhp !!??

I got the Puma presumably by winning the champ on intermediate. Any idea how the other extra cars are won? (Don't want to use the cheats).

Interesting that you move the power to the front as I tend to do the opposite. Particularly on the tarmac too help get the front of the subaru into the bends (maybe because it is too big I have to use this technique?)

The Focus is supposed to have better braking but I find this a bit hard to judge as well.

My favorite stages are the UK ones with a bit of everything. The one which you run in both directions is very rewarding to get right.

I think the stages are a bit too short though.
Anyone remember "NetworkQ Rally" ? One of the UK stages took about 12 minutes to get through! It was great.

Anyone know of any downloads to get the proper driver names or tobaco liveries etc?

[daz]

haha, that was a top game

[Mellon]

BT52:

You get bonus cars and cheats for winning individual events (intermidiate and expert) and championships. Cheats appear in the options menu.

I move the brakes back by at least one step to make the Subaru (and the Mitsubishi) turn in to corners. I find that the rear steps out too far under acceleration if I don't move the power ratio forward. I only started to do this after I moved to force-feedback after I returned from Xmas vacation at Hotel Mother (played on a friend's CPU over the holidays).

In most corners I only tap the brakes enough to almost lock the rear wheels and throw out the rear. I usually slow down by downshifting. I find that brakes are only needed for slowing tha car down when you have to take a corner 2 or 3 gears below the one you are in when you approach the corner.

Yes, the stages are quite short. And Nicky reads the notes too late, especially when several corners are connected or you approach them over a jump. There's no way to get a good line without learning the stages. Sometimes you even have trouble slowing the car down enough to avoid running wide.

[Mellon]

For a driver name editor:
http://www.colinmcra...page=driveredit

[BT52]

Originally posted by Mellon
BT52:

Yes, the stages are quite short. And Nicky reads the notes too late, especially when several corners are connected or you approach them over a jump. There's no way to get a good line without learning the stages. Sometimes you even have trouble slowing the car down enough to avoid running wide.

I want to throttle him sometimes. ..."into 3 left, caution rocks outside" when I am already half way round the damn bend and going much too fast to avoid them. (This is on UK stage 2 or 4).

I find that I need the power at the back to be able to get round the bends on tarmac smoothly, I tend to brake quite early on these stages and use the power quite early. If it were modelled I'm sure I would be destroying my diff and tyres quite dramatically.

On the snow I push the power back also as I use the throttle on-off to try to get the car pointing the right way quicker.

Although I seem to have no problem doing well on the tarmac (won on inter by a mile) I have been struggling so far on mud. Maybe I'll try trail braking with more front power.

I noticed the cheats popping up when I won a rally on intermediate, but despite winning 3 rallys in the season and the championship and the arcade mode class B and class A I still only have the Puma as an extra car.

Could it be that you have to win the SS stages like in the original game? As so far I have been pretty hopeless on them.

[Mellon]

I uploaded my best times: http://www.abo.fi/~trikberg/cmr2/
I've only driven the stages 1-5 times so the stage times are bound to improve once I get some more time on the game. Stages 9 and 10 in particular since I've only driven them once or twice each.

[100cc]

the game is too easy to win, and I don't really like the tarmac races, the car is so weird on them.

Otherwise I really like the game, got all the trophies on inter. and expert. I haven't played it for ages though.