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Is Christian Horner full of it

Started by MikeJuk , Aug 30 2010 22:13

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#1 MikeJuk

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 22:13

Over the last few weeks we've seen that Horner is coming out with some hard to believe statements.

ie: "There have been no changes to the RB front wing"... erm ok

or maybe - "Buttons braking took Sebastian by surprise and he was just trying to avoid him"...erm ok

So is he full of it or not?

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#2 Anomnader

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 22:15

Its a lot harder in the media spotlight when you're teams leading.

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#3 goldenboy

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 22:15

Over the last few weeks we've seen that Horner is coming out with some hard to believe statements.

ie: "There have been no changes to the RB front wing"... erm ok

or maybe - "Buttons braking took Sebastian by surprise and he was just trying to avoid him"...erm ok

So is he full of it or not?

most predictable poll results in the history of autosport coming up!

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#4 MikeJuk

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 23:09

According to the poll results so far Christian is indeed full of it.

I have confirmation that Mark Webber has voted in the poll and he voted 'yes' however this was balanced out by Vettels 'no' vote - more votes needed to be conclusive.

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#5 engel

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 23:10

Over the last few weeks we've seen that Horner is coming out with some hard to believe statements.

ie: "There have been no changes to the RB front wing"... erm ok

or maybe - "Buttons braking took Sebastian by surprise and he was just trying to avoid him"...erm ok

So is he full of it or not?

So since you seem to be the resident composites expert du jour ... what did they change in their front wing?

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#6 MikeJuk

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 23:18

The camera location or maybe it was a 'wet weather' setup that made the wing run higher from the ground? Anyway, Brawn and Whitmarsh seemed more than pleased. Can't wait to see the smile on their faces at Monza. Cheshire cat springs to mind.

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#7 engel

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 23:27

or maybe ... I don't know it was a lower downforce profile than Hungary? I mean ... who'd have thunk it, teams running lower df in Spa, who 'd do such a stupid thing.

PS Check this vid out -> .. tell me oh wise one, what exactly is the RB front wing doing at around 0:50?

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#8 MikeJuk

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 23:35

I guess your vote is 'no' then, seems you're in the minority. BTW The only thing you can see from that youtube video is Vettels front wing plowing into Button's sidepod.

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#9 engel

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 23:40

Most people can see it flexing quite a bit, on the on board shot when he's behind button. Cmon ... you 're slacking, for a composites expert

PS everyone in F1 is full of ****, doesn't make this thread worthwile though.

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#10 MikeJuk

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 23:46

So let me get this straight, you're saying the RB wings are flexing now? Surely Horner said they weren't :lol:

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#11 alecc

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 23:50

Seriously, would Horner have 100 times worse statements, lets say "I'm the best team chief in history, and Vettel is better than Michael, Ayrton and Fangio together", it still would make such a post like this opening one, way waaay under the level of this forum.

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#12 engel

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 23:54

So let me get this straight, you're saying the RB wings are flexing now? Surely Horner said they weren't

Link? Cause all I 've heard him say was that their wing was legal and they were not worried about the new test (which they passed by the way). Don't recall him talking about flex at all. And all I said is that the RB wing seems to be behaving exactly the same as it always has, exact same behavior that made everybody go nuts a month ago ... so I m still wondering how you came up with your assertion that their wing was somehow different

Edited by engel, 30 August 2010 - 23:56.

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#13 MikeJuk

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 00:01

So when Horner said there were no changes to the wing and yet to anyone but a blind man, everyone could see that there were - was that being truthful? I don't blame him, they knew that new tests were coming up and made the wing less flexible. It's a no brainer. They'll change the floor for Monza. Maybe even Horner will admit that one.

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#14 Dunder

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 00:09

Tough one for me this!

Personally I don't think that RB have made any changes to the wing but have little doubt that they are doing something funky in other areas (floor/splitter). Not sure how they will be affected by the updated tests. The wing was still flexing at Spa albeit the front end was higher which could easily be explained by the circuit characteristics, particularly the big compression area into Eau Rouge.

His comments re Vettel and Button are just a case of defending his driver and are not unexpected.

I am not a great fan of Horner but I don't think he is any less honest than his peers so on that basis I will vote no.

Edited by Dunder, 31 August 2010 - 00:11.

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#15 TurboF1

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 00:11

So when Horner said there were no changes to the wing and yet to anyone but a blind man, everyone could see that there were - was that being truthful? I don't blame him, they knew that new tests were coming up and made the wing less flexible. It's a no brainer. They'll change the floor for Monza. Maybe even Horner will admit that one.

The wing still flexes, but to a lesser degree than before. I was very keen to watch that over the entire Spa weekend. That wings still a-flexin' though! Its also possible that it aint flexin as much because Spa has a lower downforce requirement than Hungary. Based on that assumption at Monza there should basically be next to no flexing visible. However, come Singapore, if that suckers touchin' the ground again, you'll know something still aint quite right...

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#16 stevvy1986

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 01:08

64 votes cast........obviously not the most interesting poll to people. Anyway, who honestly cares if he speaks rubbish or not? Most people in F1 speak rubbish at some stage, so it seems a bit pointless to have this poll. Also let's be honest, you're not really going to want to admit to your rivals that you had to make changes are you? In terms of the Vettel thing, that's him trying to defend his driver, rightly or wrongly, so I don't see why it means he talks rubbish. Overreaction as far as I'm concerned.