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[keeppushingurep1]

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[flyer121]

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What do you think - yourself ?

[thuGG]

You mean IQ intelligent or on track intelligent?

[Risil]

Valentino Rossi and Kimi Raikkonen.

[AvantiFer]

I don't know who is the most intelligent, but what I'm pretty sure of is that both Schumacher and Alonso are among them.

[alecc]

"Me?"

[sosidge]

You mean IQ intelligent or on track intelligent?

I don't think we will ever know IQ scores... and that is really only a measure of how good you are at IQ tests!

Track intelligence wise... I'm thinking Alonso, Button, Barrichello... all are aware of so much more than just the track ahead of them, with a real feel for the car handling and the strategy possibilities.

[DILLIGAF]

Tough question.

Current driver? I'll guess Petrov.

Former driver? No contest it has to be Gerhard Berger.

[Crazy Ninja]

Button spotting Barrichello's tyres going off in Hungary even though he was a few places behind showed how much Jenson thinks through a race. Brundle alluded to it in commentary + James Allen has wrote how Jenson plans his whole weekend very methodically and uses his intelligence to make up for perhaps a little less outright speed compared to Lewis. There was also another instance where Button was heard over team radio asking what Massa was doing even though they were nowhere near each other on the track, but Button knew they would be close towards the end of the race.

You have to say Alonso is very clever too, albeit in more ways than Jenson. Not only is he seemingly the best at preserving his tyres, his experience in being a double world champion has really shown this season. But also, how he gets the whole team on his side, visiting the factory on a regular basis, putting the blame on himself for the bad pitstop in Korea, the words he chooses to use in the media to motivate the team. He's a very clever guy i think.

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Just sayin...

Racing Drivers are mental
http://www.autosport...cle.php/id/3118
The most fiendishly difficult test though, is the concentration test. Here, the words of colours flash up on a screen – although not necessarily in the same colour as the word itself.

Should a colour word appear in its right colour – so 'brown' is in a brown colour, 'pink' is in pink – then you have to hit the 'true' trigger. If the word is in the wrong colour – so 'brown' is written in yellow – then you have to hit the 'false' trigger.

While that may seem simple, the true and false triggers keep switching with every go – so for one answer true may be the left trigger, while the next that triggers the false response.

There is just one second to answer each question before the next one pops up – so if you delay for a fraction in answering one, you can find yourself wrongly answering the following question. Then panic sets in!

Getting the right responses is easy for the first 15 or so questions, but as they keep coming thick and fast it is all too easy to get flummoxed – either by delaying slightly in answering one or getting one wrong. Ultimately, it is all about concentration.

Ceccarelli said that in his experience, only one driver got 100 per cent at his first attempt – Marc Gene.

Now though, he says Robert Kubica is the expert. The Pole is easily able to get 100 per cent at each go – but more impressive than that, he is able to answer the 100 questions in just 62 seconds. I struggled to get over 75 per cent right in the full 100 seconds.

[KateLM]

You mean IQ intelligent or on track intelligent?

Thats what I was wondering. Because I suspect that they do not necessarily correlate.

[Cenotaph]

Sakon?

[undersquare]

Chandhok should be in contention I'd think.

Assuming he's still going to be driving.

[Bonaventura]

I think it needs some intelligence to drive at F1
Don't think there are much differences between the drivers.
Vettel was very good at school he made A-levels with considerable good grades, depite he had not much time to learn for it
but this means nothing, since school graduations are not important for being a good racing driver

Edited by Bonaventura, 29 October 2010 - 14:11.

[aditya-now]

Discuss

Alonso. Nothing to discuss.

[SK99]

Who's the most intelligent F1 driver ever?

[Bonaventura]

Who's the most intelligent F1 driver ever?

Kimi ;)
He gets paid from Ferrari loads of money
to drive around in the woods for his enjoyment

[Ferrari_F1_fan_2001]

I'd measure intelligence of a racing driver by how much mental capacity they have to use during a race.

It seems that some are better than others (Alonso, Button, Schumacher of old etc) in that they have the extra mental capacity think ahead, compute strategy, put in the best laps when it counts, overtake, take the neccesary risks etc.

Some are really media savvy (Button, Alonso) while others are totally on the edge it seems of what is possible (Massa, Kovaleinnen etc).

it all depends on the definition of intelligence.

[Smile17]

Alonso. Nothing to discuss.

I agree

[Oblomov]

Alonso. Nothing to discuss.

[Slowinfastout]

The most clever ones are actually aliens sucking the brains off their own fanbase(s)... so basically they have to start by being dumb as a bag of rocks and be an extremely talented driver.

[chdphd]

[undersquare]

Alonso. Nothing to discuss.

Any evidence?

[keeppushingurep1]

"Me?"

I think so! He s cold, he knows when to attack and when to be conservative, he takes good care of his tires, and he always has the championship in mind

Edited by keeppushingurep1, 29 October 2010 - 14:50.

[motorhead]

Alonso. Nothing to discuss.

Based on your fanboyism or facts?

[Hollow]

Alonso. Nothing to discuss.

LOL, pretty much to the point.

[AvantiFer]

Based on your fanboyism or facts?

Is "obviousness" a fact?

[Slowinfastout]

LOL, pretty much to the point.

Yeah, it proves MY point!

[Ferrari2183]

Any evidence?

I don't know if you going to get concrete evidence but from what I've read and heard from interviews with Andrea Stella he ranks pretty high. He is always requesting information and adjusting his pace and race strategy according to what's happening around him. Couple that with his ability to be fast and very consistent for laps on end. Stella says he is more involved than Schumacher.

He is also quite good with the media but I don't think that has much to do with race intelligence. They get taught how to be media savvy.

[Rinehart]

I'd nominate Rosberg. Seems to have had a good education both in life and academically. He's also a bit of an acedemic junky, I think he's studying his 2nd degree now, he speaks a few languages. He's very eloquent to the media, has handled the MS situation beautifully. He seems to be an all round sharp knife.

He doesn't have Alonsos experience. I think some people might be confusing intelligence with experience.

[ivanalesi]

I think Nico has the best education. Fluent in several languages, very good at maths and scored the most points on some technical test from Williams than any of their previous drivers.
In terms of IQ, I dunno, from the driving in the past I always thought Michael was a master tactician.

[AvantiFer]

He doesn't have Alonsos experience. I think some people might be confusing intelligence with experience.

Intelligence is not something static like the processor of a computer, experience actually helps you improve your intelligence.

[Alfisti]

Assuming we mean off track, Button/Webber/Rosberg come across as being switched on.

[Gareth]

Having played a game last night, I'd love to see the F1 field take part in a poker tournament. Would be fun to watch.

Could play out like:

Hamilton either getting a big cheap lead or busting out early thanks to lots of all-ins
Button folding his way to the final 5 but being too short stacked to win
Alonso mixing up his moves, being down sometimes and up others but making it to the final three as chip leader
Massa being thrown out when his earpiece radio link to Smedley is discovered
Vettel and Webber going all in against each other with one knocking the other out, whilst Christian Horner weeps gently in the background

Seriously, though, it would be fun to see what their games were like. And would reveal something about their intelligence, as well as their characters, IMO.

[SchumiP1]

Schumacher's definitely among the most intelligent drivers. You know, wisdom comes with age.
Generally, Schumacher has a very mature approach to racing, probably even more now than ever before.

[noikeee]

Having played a game last night, I'd love to see the F1 field take part in a poker tournament. Would be fun to watch.

Could play out like:

Hamilton either getting a big cheap lead or busting out early thanks to lots of all-ins
Button folding his way to the final 5 but being too short stacked to win
Alonso mixing up his moves, being down sometimes and up others but making it to the final three as chip leader
Massa being thrown out when his earpiece radio link to Smedley is discovered
Vettel and Webber going all in against each other with one knocking the other out, whilst Christian Horner weeps gently in the background

Seriously, though, it would be fun to see what their games were like. And would reveal something about their intelligence, as well as their characters, IMO.

Kubica's an usual poker player.

I don't know what's the relevance of throwing out that fact, but I'm doing it anyway.

[Disgrace]

Any evidence?

Edited by Disgrace, 29 October 2010 - 15:35.

[inaki]

I'd nominate Rosberg. Seems to have had a good education both in life and academically. He's also a bit of an acedemic junky, I think he's studying his 2nd degree now, he speaks a few languages. He's very eloquent to the media, has handled the MS situation beautifully. He seems to be an all round sharp knife.

The only F1 driver nowadays with a superlicense that has got an universitary title AFAIK is Marc Gene. He is economist and got his degree in London School of Economics.
He speaks fluently Spanish, French, Italian, English and catalan. He is studying German

Edited by inaki, 29 October 2010 - 15:40.

[DarthRonzo]

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Milka_Duno

Milka Duno holds master's degrees in Organizational Development, Naval Architecture, Maritime Business, and Marine Biology,[4] and she has prior experience working as a naval engineer.[5]

[noikeee]

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Milka_Duno

Milka Duno holds master's degrees in Organizational Development, Naval Architecture, Maritime Business, and Marine Biology,[4] and she has prior experience working as a naval engineer.[5]

wtf lol

Racing driver, model and a naval engineer with 4 masters degrees? Just what hasn't she done?

[Ferrari2183]

wtf lol

Racing driver, model and a naval engineer with 4 masters degrees? Just what hasn't she done?

Me...

[Muppetmad]

wtf lol

Racing driver, model and a naval engineer with 4 masters degrees? Just what hasn't she done?

Driven quickly?

Edited by Muppetmad, 29 October 2010 - 16:06.

[velgajski1]

Rosberg, Button, Alonso seem to drive smartly. How that relates to IQ - I really don't know.

[mstar]

I havn't seen anyone these days to rival Alain Prost. They all similar these days.

[milestone 11]

Having played a game last night, I'd love to see the F1 field take part in a poker tournament...
Alonso mixing up his moves, being down sometimes and up others but making it to the final three as chip leader

Yes, but would you really be willing to play with a known card sharp?

[arknor]

Schumacher's definitely among the most intelligent drivers. You know, wisdom comes with age.
Generally, Schumacher has a very mature approach to racing, probably even more now than ever before.

his engineers are always saying how he can go out do a bunch of laps come back in and then in extreme detail explain how the car felt during every bump and corner during each lap (various engineers have said this)

we also know he can give a very detailed running commentary as he drives around. (i think it was nick fry who said this)

we also know he still does his finding the limit thing in practice sessions.

he was the only driver in korea learning the grip levels while behind the safety car and he even rehearsed his over take on kubica (as brundle pointed out)

hes definetly still thinking about everything when hes on track , remember he was one of the first drivers to start finding puddles to keep his tyres alive , something all drivers do now days.

hes also one of the fastest into and out of the pits because he still practices finding the limit for the pitlane something he was famous for in his first career


schumacher is probably still top when it comes to track knowledge

[iotar]

Based on nothing=general impression IMO:
Rosberg and Massa.
Rosberg - because he's doing very well surviving PR and internal battle with Schumacher
Massa - because of the way he handled his injury - different side of the person

It's difficult to tell when you hear most of them speaking in English and not their native languages. It makes a huge difference. Domenicali is a good example. When interviewed in English - he sounds laid back, phlegmatic and uncertain but when I heard him speaking Italian he looked like completely different person - slick, quick thinking businessman.

[Just to remind: intelligence and level of education is not the same, another thing is emotions]

[edited:]
Above relates to: [Intelligent = as a person and not as a driver.]

As a driver: Alonso, Kubica.

Edited by iotar, 29 October 2010 - 16:21.

[fatfreddie]

Without a doubt, Nick Heidfeld. He might not be the fastest man out there, but when it comes to intelligent driving, he has no equal.

[drag]

Me...

[kismet]

How would I know? No one stands out as a shining beacon of mental prowess but that's likely due to the simple fact that the tasks they're required to perform as part of their job description don't really reveal much to an outsider observing the happenings on telly.

Edited by kismet, 29 October 2010 - 16:43.