Here is an example from the 1968 Tasman and 2008 Tasman Revival - BRM P126.
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Not only in appearance - While I have gone from a spotty lad to a grumpy old bugger, Mr Bell was extremely obliging and convivial on both occasions.He's held up very well over the ensuing 40 odd years...
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I may be getting pedantic but the Tasman Ferraris were designated 246T. The car in the 2008 photo is in 1968 spec i.e. no wings. Do you know which chassis this was? Amon used 0006 in 1968. In 69 he used 0008 and Derek Bell used 0010.
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I don't want to get pedantic but according to the present owner the 2008 Tasman Revival car is chassis 0004 used by Amon in 1968. The '256' was a typo and has been corrected.I may be getting pedantic but the Tasman Ferraris were designated 246T. The car in the 2008 photo is in 1968 spec i.e. no wings. Do you know which chassis this was? Amon used 0006 in 1968. In 69 he used 0008 and Derek Bell used 0010.
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My intention for this thread was to merely replicate images not specific cars and not to get into 'grandfather's axe' debates. I neither own nor wear an anorak!
Posted 14 November 2010 - 21:56
He's rightI don't want to get pedantic but according to the present owner the 2008 Tasman Revival car is chassis 0004 used by Amon in 1968
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David - your avatar is one of the cars I am eyeing off for this thread.
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.......... I was standing in exactly the same position at Druids when I took the picture of the Matra at the BA 1000km in 1974 and this summer's Masters Festival at Brands Hatch.........
David
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and with a different focal length lens.I can believe the photographer's in the same position, but pointing the camera at a slightly different angle
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Focal length is irrelevant. For a given position of photographer and subject, for a given image size, the perspective will be identical. In other words, if you use a wide angle lens and enlarge it you'll get the same picture as you would with a telephoto admittedly admittedly with more grain or fewer pixels.and with a different focal length lens.
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Oh for ***** sake, I make a simple comment about two pictures I took 36 years apart from the same spot at Druids and this stuff gets written. I hope it is with tongue in cheek or else we're all in trouble.
I was standing at the same spot by which I mean I was looking down the same line of the straight approaching the corner. The run off area and the bank at Druids has been moved back about 25 yards since 1974. Although Paddock Bend was tightened the line of the track up the straight to Druids remains unchanged. The 1974 picture shows the car turning in much later than the 2010 picture where the car is aiming at a very early apex and is further away from Druids which means I was pointing the camera at quite different areas of the approach to Druids.
Can we just enjoy the then and now photographs without analysing every word...
David
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Oh for ***** sake, I make a simple comment about two pictures I took 36 years apart from the same spot at Druids and this stuff gets written. I hope it is with tongue in cheek or else we're all in trouble.
I was standing at the same spot by which I mean I was looking down the same line of the straight approaching the corner. The run off area and the bank at Druids has been moved back about 25 yards since 1974. Although Paddock Bend was tightened the line of the track up the straight to Druids remains unchanged. The 1974 picture shows the car turning in much later than the 2010 picture where the car is aiming at a very early apex and is further away from Druids which means I was pointing the camera at quite different areas of the approach to Druids.
Can we just enjoy the then and now photographs without analysing every word...
David
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I would have though the idea was supposed to be to show the same or similar cars then and now
We've all got loads of photos of different cars taken from the same spot over the years
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Although the lines being taken into the corner are different and I'm using a different focal length lens, I was standing in exactly the same position at Druids when I took the picture of the Matra at the BA 1000km in 1974 and this summer's Masters Festival at Brands Hatch.
David
Posted 16 November 2010 - 23:12
But I must confess the reference to the BA 1,000Kms really threw me completely. To me that's the Buenos Aires 1,000Kms... But now I see what you meant.
Posted 17 November 2010 - 16:09
We've all got loads of photos of different cars taken from the same spot over the years
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Not identical cars but they are occupying almost the same piece of track at Brands Hatch.
Frank Gardner in a Lola 330 practising for the 1972 John Player Challenge Trophy. He withdrew from the race although I can't remember the reason for this.
I'm no expert on Lolas but I think this is a 332 at the 2009 HSCC Superprix.
David
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Alec Mildren in his Cooper Climax during his first visit to Port Wakefield.
This photo was taken at the Gold Star meeting in October '59
Posted 26 November 2010 - 21:03
David,
secondly, the modern tyres for these old cars are much more "square-shouldered". Another superb pair, as were Giraffe's paddock shots. Let's see some more, folks.
Thanks again to Wirra for starting this off, it could become one of those "epic" TNF threads. I'm already planning to go out next season with prints of old photos and try to shoot a modern view of the scene.
Posted 26 November 2010 - 21:44
The Lotus 76 at the Silverstone International Trophy in 1974
Ronnie Peterson leading in the early laps of the race.
Twenty odd laps into the race, I've run out of colour slides and have reloaded with budget B&W film as I was an impoversished civil servant at the time.
Hunt is now pressurising Peterson whose rear tyre is starting to blister.
Peterson's Cosworth expires about lap 30.
The same Lotus 76 at the 2006 Silverstone Classic
All photos in 1974 and 2006 taken at Becketts.
David
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Not quite. According to Dick, Alex owned 4 Coopers [I'm guessing a Bristol, T45, T51 & (?)]. In the photos Alex is in the T45 and Dick in the T51, hence the differences....hey, it's the same car though...
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Mildren Coopers wereNot quite. According to Dick, Alex owned 4 Coopers [I'm guessing a Bristol, T45, T51 & (?)]. In the photos Alex is in the T45 and Dick in the T51, hence the differences.
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Peter Giddings - Tasman Revival 2010A couple of photos from the Dec '56 Albert Park AGP meeting -
Stan Jones's Maserati 250F...
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