Everytime I hear someone quoting Monza 2008 as some kind of evidence of Vettel's 'greatness', I just about throw up.
STR had the A-spec Ferrari engine from a race or two before Italy because Ferrari wanted their only competitive customer team to start taking points off McLaren as the title fight was getting close. The difference between the A-spec factory Ferrari engine and the B-spec customer engine was rumoured at the time to be as much as 30hp, hence suddenly the STR went from being the poor cousin of the Red Bull RB4 to some kind of uber-jet in a straight line - Bourdais qualified 4th for crying out loud! Does everybody forget that little snippet of pertinent information?
Sure, Vettel did a great job to bring the car home in mixed conditions as a young guy, BUT
* Kovalainen held everyone back behind him
* Vettel had no spray in his face!
By the time he pitted, the track was dry enough for slicks, he had a huge lead, and he just carried on to the victory.
It was a good win based on an excellent low-fuel strategy from Ascanelli to take advantage of the car's speed, but making it out like it was some kind of Senna-like drive is just shite. Like pretty much every one of Vettel's wins, he didnt need to overtake anybody except for when they had to jump out of the way for him.
was about post this, but you just did and did very well... great post.
Got to love F1 forums.
SV = to Senna
But MW rated below JB
So in the 0.09s gap between SV and MW we have to fit FA LH JB FM RK and probably NR
Lets wait a little till we proclaim SV as good as AS and people should give a little more thought to where they rate MW if they wish to consider SV in such lofty company
I know.. it is a bit weird...
I was just thinking, vettel has only raced in the same car
Bourdais - who was dropped... from the jr team... for a rookie mid season... when there was testing to help the rookie make the most of the season...
Webber - vettel is around half of one tenth faster in quali averaged and is slightly better overall in the points for two years of competition.
I like webber and think he is definately in with a chance for WDC next year, but I wouldn't put him on par with prost or senna or even raikkonen or alonso or hamilton.
If vettel truely is senna then Webber is probably a prost, or given the last season, maybe somewher between a senna and a prost.
I fail to see how this couold be remotely tryue, maybe he's just having delusions after not winning in a while...
BCM, infact the closest we have seen to one of the red bull's out qualify the other by 2 seconds was Mark Webber out qualifying vettel in malaysia with tyrechoice by 1.5 seconds