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[ronmac]

rons quiz number four..
question ...1..which new zealander designed and built his own racing motor cycle and took it to daytona to race..??
question....2..who was the first new zealand formula one car race driver..??
question....3..name 3 father and son australasian sprint car drivers..??
question....4..what race car numbers did these drivers usually race with..??jim clark.bruce mclaren.jack brabham.graham hill..

question....5..who provided the 2010 goodwood revival report for n.z. classic driver magzine..??
question....6..what was the nickname for race driver jim richards..??
question....7..why did nt they observe a minutes silence at the 2010 goodwood revival meeting in memory of bruce mc laren..??
question....8..name a new zealand midget driver (the car not the driver) who won a united states auto club championship race and had his picture on the front cover of the u.s. national speed sport news..??
question....9..in the new zealand 1957.grand prix..who was placed first....second...third...and which driver was killed in a crash...??
question....10.which sprint car driver flipped over the safety fence in 1992..at parramatta raceway..and which midget driver flipped over the safety fence at n.z. western springs speedway in 2010 ???

[wenoopy]

rons quiz number four..

REally past my bedtime but here's a few:

1. John Britten

2.Walter Frank Morice - born Gisborne generally known as Morry Morice Raced Cooper Bristol in several minor Formula One races in 1956. Good friend of Horace Gould.

9. (1)Parnell - (2)whitehead-(3)Stan Jones- Ken Wharton- crashed in 100 mile sports car race. This was the first motor race I ever saw, as a 14-year-old kid, with my brother and a neighbour who was a Caltex Rep.

Hmm that's about all off the top of my head. Some research might produce a few more.

[wenoopy]

6. Richo? is that a nickname? I thought it was just tired Australian pronunciation, like rego, garbo, etc etc.

[Tim Murray]

6. Gentleman Jim
7. They did have a minute's silence. They also had a minute of noise when the McLarens ran their engines.

There was a small gathering on Thursday to commemorate 40 years since Bruce's death. Jan was there as was Bruce's wife. Also many mechanics and others from the early McLaren days. A very nice event. Then they had a minute of silence before the 6 McLaren's in the Whitsun Trophy ran the engines for a minute of noise.

So Jan was around all weekend and we had her wear one of the USSR racing team hats and join in the fun.

Edited by Tim Murray, 20 December 2010 - 11:44.

[ronmac]

Hi wenoopy..sorry to keep you up late..number one correct..j.britten...number 9 correct...parnell..whitehead ..jones..and(wharton crash )..Number 3 not what i was looking for..thank you(ron)

[ronmac]

Hi tim..number 6 correct.gentleman jim.(though i had thought ...the web footed kiwi ) and 7 correct for one minutes noise.though i did nt know they had one minutes silence as well..thank you...(ron )

[ronmac]

And also wenoopy...number two..you may be right..i misreadarticle in nz classic driver.about ..one trevor taylor..(but he was a yorkshire man.) im sure someone will confirm the correct answer soon (ron)

[David McKinney]

1. beaten to it while I was out at the supermarket
2. Morry Morice is correct (though the first NZ Grand Prix driver was George Tapper, who by that time (1930s) was T P Cholmondeley-Tapper
3.
4. Unanswerable, unless you mean in a Tasman context, in which case it would be Clark 1, McLaren 47, Brabham 4, Hill 1
5. There were two, one by Peter Ross and the other by yours truly
6. I would have said 'JR' which is what he always was before he deserted the land of his birth
7. Scooped again
8. Beyond my area of expertise
9. Parnell, Whitehead, Jones. No-one was killed in a crash, though - as has been pointed out - Wharton was killed in the supporting sportscar race. He had qualified his 250F on pole for the Grand Prix
10. See 8

[GD66]

3. Ray and Rick Geneve.
Steve and Garry Brazier
George and Brooke Tatnell

[gavinevitt]

Sorry Ron, but your last question (10) has an error.

No driver flipped over the Western Springs fence, the incident happened during the Barry Butterworth Memorial Race held at Waikaraka Park, Auckland. The driver was Shane Allach.

Q8. Barry Butterworth.

[Tim Murray]

Q10 part 1 - Kerry Madsen

[ronmac]

Good morning david..did you take too long to pick out the xmas turkey ???.shame !! (2) thank you for confirming morrie maurice....(4)..i agree mclaren 47...brabham 4 but except when they held number one spot. hill and clark had another number ??(5 ) yes motoring correspondant.d.mc.kinney..(6 )jr..i was thinking of another nickname..any more suggestions ?? (ron )

[ronmac]

Hi gd 66....Thank you for (3) brazier..tatnell.....i don t know geneve...(can someone confirm them ) I was thinking of some others.. too....( ron )

[Lee Nicolle]

1 John Britten
2Bruce Mclaren
3Rush, Brazier[2 sons], Tatnell, Lacey, Kelley, Anderson,Bowey, Cobby and about 10 more.
4Jack and Graham Hill raced at least for a time with no 1
5
6Jum, Gentleman Jim, Richo [snr and jnr] and several others depending on your fan level and media commentators
7A momnts noise [from a big block Can Am car]
8 Butterworth
9
10 Madman Kerry Madsen

Edited by Lee Nicolle, 20 December 2010 - 20:32.

[ronmac]

Hi gavinevitt...10 yes shane allach..i was watching on u tube.but did nt pick waikaraka park..but thought the pits looked a bit strange..! and (8 ) yes barry butterworth.wins a usac champ race...( a new book by alan batt. of christchurch about barry butterworth... have you seen the great collection of early midget and speedway cars on.......vintage and classic midget photos by pallmall 2006 ?? worth a look..(ron)

[ronmac]

hi lee nicholl...thank you for your answers.today... 1...(answered) 2...(apparently morice) 3...( a good selection there) i was thinking of tatnell..dumsney..madsen. (6) i always remembered another nickname.. (just to be different )...(10 ) parramata wreck..yes..madsen.. (ron )

[wenoopy]

2...(apparently morice) 6) i always remembered another nickname.. (just to be different )...

2. Morice - if you had access to issue #35 of Allan Dick's New Zealand Classic Driver (Dec 2010-Jan 2011) you would find an article by one David McKinney entitled "Unknown Trail Blazer" which details the life of Morry Morice. It is surprising that his wartime exploits are not well known (in NZ anyway).

6. Gentleman Jim rings a bell with me. Even after his celebrated podium description of the booing crowd at Bathurst (You're a pack of Arseholes!). Obviously a majority agreed with him!

Edited by wenoopy, 20 December 2010 - 22:34.

[Peter Leversedge]

No 3
In NZ Tony & Mike Allen
Ron & Gary/David/Terry Jemmet
Barry & Lloyd Butterworth
Peter & Brent/Darren Leversedge
and more

[ronmac]

Hi wenoopy...yes i see the morice article in classic driver..i have the magazine with me..mis read the wrong article..after reading an internet review..(hav nt reached the right page yet ) my bad!!...is that what they say now...ugggh..must finish the magazine and pass it onto ron rutherford to read..
re number (6) o.k. for gentleman jim.by popular vote..though i had ....the web footed kiwi....in mind.. (ron )

[ronmac]

Hi pete leversedge....late again.. thank you for your input of n.z. sprint car drivers...just look at all those leversedges !!!!more history to come...
can anyone confirm geneve father and son ?? where do or did they race ?? ( ron )

[GD66]

In WA. (Still part of Australia at this stage !) Mick Geneve was a circuit and speedway driver, his son Ray was there at the inception of sprintcars, and Ray's son Rick races them nowadays.

[Lee Nicolle]

Hi gavinevitt...10 yes shane allach..i was watching on u tube.but did nt pick waikaraka park..but thought the pits looked a bit strange..! and (8 ) yes barry butterworth.wins a usac champ race...( a new book by alan batt. of christchurch about barry butterworth... have you seen the great collection of early midget and speedway cars on.......vintage and classic midget photos by pallmall 2006 ?? worth a look..(ron)

Have a look at Brian Darbys Vintage Speedway site, just google that. A very large range of Aussie speedway. I am sure that you will see the likes of Butterworth, he was quick and crashed a LOT.

[Lee Nicolle]

hi lee nicholl...thank you for your answers.today... 1...(answered) 2...(apparently morice) 3...( a good selection there) i was thinking of tatnell..dumsney..madsen. (6) i always remembered another nickname.. (just to be different )...(10 ) parramata wreck..yes..madsen.. (ron )

A young Kerry.

[Lee Nicolle]

2. Morice - if you had access to issue #35 of Allan Dick's New Zealand Classic Driver (Dec 2010-Jan 2011) you would find an article by one David McKinney entitled "Unknown Trail Blazer" which details the life of Morry Morice. It is surprising that his wartime exploits are not well known (in NZ anyway).

6. Gentleman Jim rings a bell with me. Even after his celebrated podium description of the booing crowd at Bathurst (You're a pack of Arseholes!). Obviously a majority agreed with him!

I dont think he has been called that since. I think that was a Mike Raymond tag.

[Lee Nicolle]

In WA. (Still part of Australia at this stage !) Mick Geneve was a circuit and speedway driver, his son Ray was there at the inception of sprintcars, and Ray's son Rick races them nowadays.

Ray started in Supermodifieds, none of this new fangled stuff without a clutch. RF Spares 289 Ford powered No4? about 1970

[gavinevitt]

Have a look at Brian Darbys Vintage Speedway site, just google that. A very large range of Aussie speedway. I am sure that you will see the likes of Butterworth, he was quick and crashed a LOT.

I followed Barry's racing career from the brief time on speedway solo bikes, to TQ Midgets, and on to the Midgets. I certainly know he didn't crash a lot, he certainly WON a lot. I think there were some periods when he raced out of Sydney that he got crashed into a lot!

AJ Batt's book on Barry is going to be something special.

Ron, Jimmy Richards was always known as JR back in his racing days in NZ, and while he is certainly Gentleman Jim, to most Kiwi race followers he will always be JR.
Glad you like the vintage midget photos, pallmall is my handle on some speedway boards.

[ronmac]

Good evening all...at last we have done it..beaten the expert !! thanks to the lady over the road who rang and told me that david had gone shopping..go ahead with the quiz now...she said !!

wenoopy....(1) (2) (9)
tim murray..(6) (7) (10 a)
d.mc kinney(4) (5)
gavin evitt..(8) (10)
g.d. 66.......(3)


thank you for your interest.....(ron )

have a nice xmas..folks..

[ronmac]

Thank you for advice to see all those vintage and classic midget cars..Ill send an email to kevin proctor who used to race at templeton..ruapuna speedway..Im sure he would love to check them out..he lives close to brisbane now.. my regards gavinevitt....(ron )

[Tim Murray]

thank you for your interest.....(ron )

have a nice xmas..folks..

Thanks for the entertainment, Ron, and have a good one yourself.

[wenoopy]

Mention of Barry Butterworth recalls the (?one off) meeting at the Kumeu Showgrounds in the 80's on a track of about 1200 yards from memory. Definitely a bit different from usual speedway. There's a website on it somewhere.

These quizzes have been great fun - keep them coming!!

Stu Buchanan