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[etoipi]

In 2011, there will be 5 F1 driver champions competing - Vettel, Button, Hamilton, Alonso & Shumacher. (and 2 almost champions Massa & Webber).

My question is what is the largest number of F1 champions competing in a season? And of course who and when?

[thiscocks]

As far as I can remember you have to go back to the final two races of 1985 when there was the same amount of champions racing. There was Lauda, Prost(who won the title at brands), Piquet, Rosberg, and Alan Jones who drove the Lola Hart.

Not sure if there have ever been more than 5 wdc on the grid before but I will happily be proved otherwise...

[Mandzipop]

Surely they must have the most combined titles ever. There are 12 years of WDC's covered. Years missing, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 and 2007.

Has there ever been another season with more years covered?

[DavidJoeF1]

It depends how you want to tally it. In 1992 there were 13 titled years or in 1993 there were 17 years covered if the drivers who won the title in future years are included. Other than that I think only the years when Fangio raced would be similar to the 2011 grid.

[Mandzipop]

It depends how you want to tally it. In 1992 there were 13 titled years or in 1993 there were 17 years covered if the drivers who won the title in future years are included. Other than that I think only the years when Fangio raced would be similar to the 2011 grid.

I mean champions already. At the start of the 2011 season the drivers that we know have championships are Schumacher (7), Alonso (2) Hamilton (1), Button (1) and Vettel (1) which is a combined total of 12 WDC years covered. We dont know the future winners, and if Schumacher does continue into 2012 and none of the current holders retire then it will be 14.

[apoka]

I mean champions already. At the start of the 2011 season the drivers that we know have championships are Schumacher (7), Alonso (2) Hamilton (1), Button (1) and Vettel (1) which is a combined total of 12 WDC years covered. We dont know the future winners, and if Schumacher does continue into 2012 and none of the current holders retire then it will be 14.

There are other drivers who could become WDC (Kubica, Rosberg, Massa, Webber, Sutil, ...) in the next 2 years, but you could be right that we will have 14 WDCs by then given that Hamilton, Alonso and Vettel are the bookies favourites for future titles.

Edited by apoka, 28 December 2010 - 16:57.

[Apex]

There are other drivers who could become WDC (Kubica, Rosberg, Massa, Webber, Sutil, ...) in the next 2 years, but you could be right that we will have 14 WDCs by then given that Hamilton, Alonso and Vettel are the bookies favourites for future titles.

It doesn't matter who wins the titles. As long as none of the champions retire each new season will have (at least) one more WDC title than the previous one.

[baggio10]

This line up needs Kimi Raikkonen and it would be perfect.

[Jackmancer]

This line up needs Kimi Raikkonen and it would be perfect.

And plz put Villeneuve in a Hispania

[etoipi]

My interest was in how many drivers who are or have been F1 champion have driven together during a season. Next season will start with 5 - any advance on that?

The number of championships between those drivers is also an interesting stat which is worth adding to to my question.

[Rob G]

I haven't been able to find more than 5. Interestingly, there were 5 in 1968 (briefly, sadly) and again in 1970, in an era when careers often came to a sudden, violent end.

[etoipi]

Who were they?

[gm914]

This line up needs Kimi Raikkonen and it would be perfect.

Against 5 WDC's? Nah, too much like hard work...Oops TREE!!

[nordschleife]

Who were they?

1968: Jack Brabham, Graham Hill, Jim Clark, John Surtees, Denny Hulme

1970: Jack Brabham, Graham Hill, John Surtees, Denny Hulme, Jackie Stewart

[Andretti Fan]

1965: Brabham. Clark, Surtees, G Hill, and Phil Hill

[bourbon]

Against 5 WDC's? Nah, too much like hard work...Oops TREE!!

Considering he was ready willing and able to give up his #1 at Macca to partner a 7 time WDC at Ferrari, I think you are likely wrong. Oops SHRUB!!

Edited by bourbon, 29 December 2010 - 21:48.

[readonly]

In 2011, there will be 5 F1 driver champions competing - Vettel, Button, Hamilton, Alonso & Shumacher. (and 2 almost champions Massa & Webber).

My question is what is the largest number of F1 champions competing in a season? And of course who and when?

The question is irrelevant since all current champions have been gifted their titles by the FIA.

[Fastcake]

The question is irrelevant since all current champions have been gifted their titles by the FIA.

I dread to ask, but what?

[readonly]

I dread to ask, but what?

My perception only. I don't want to explain because that would be too controversial.

[Fastcake]

My perception only. I don't want to explain because that would be too controversial.

Well you might as well because it sounds utterly ridiculous. Heck, Hamilton got his title despite the FIA seemingly not gifting it to him.

[BullHead]

The question is irrelevant since all current champions have been gifted their titles by the FIA.

Oh dear.... you'll get over it.

[BullHead]

1965: Brabham. Clark, Surtees, G Hill, and Phil Hill

Phil Hill 1965? Are you sure?

[PayasYouRace]

Phil Hill 1965? Are you sure?

Phil didn't take part in any championship races in '65 so we can discount that. He did enter Monaco and Italy in '66 but he started neither race.

[readonly]

Well you might as well because it sounds utterly ridiculous. Heck, Hamilton got his title despite the FIA seemingly not gifting it to him.

Replies like those are the reason why I think it would be too controversial. Besides that I don't have much time for that. But if you ask for it I would briefly expose it for you.

[PayasYouRace]

The question is irrelevant since all current champions have been gifted their titles by the FIA.

Must there be a nutbar in every interesting thread.

[aditya-now]

And plz put Villeneuve in a Hispania

I just love it. Never, never discount Villeneuve. With him and Kimi we would have 7 WDCs, an all-time record.

[aditya-now]

The question is irrelevant since all current champions have been gifted their titles by the FIA.

So you should open a new thread: which championships in the past have not been gifted by the FIA?
Would be surely a killer thread. Great you still got such a splendid idea while the old year breathes it´s last.

[johnmhinds]

My perception only. I don't want to explain because that would be too controversial.

No, please explain so we can laugh at you some more.

[ff1600]

1969 and 1970 like an earlier post. I deagree with Stewart about 2010 being the best year. I would have to go with 1967 through 1969. Anyone could win those years.

[primer]

if the drivers who won the title in future years are included.

Why would you do that? How can you include the titles that hadn't been won?

[Andretti Fan]

Phil Hill 1965? Are you sure?

Well I thought I was but I should have checked my source better. Book said he had a couple of races in a private BRM, but these may have been non-championship races.