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#2901 elansprint72

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 22:33

Frazer Nash is possibly my most favourite pre-WW2 car to photograph. 

Jo Blakeney-Edwards poses for the camera; I wish that every other racer made it this easy for us to photograph.   ;)

 

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#2902 E1pix

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 23:57

Fantastic, Pete.

(Love It! button here)

Edit: It was only "easy" 'cause you knew where to be and made it so. :-)

Edited by E1pix, 29 December 2019 - 04:17.


#2903 IanMH

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Posted 13 January 2020 - 23:01

On a couple of days a year, a normally bleak Scottish hillside is transformed into something a bit less ordinary... Cheers Ian

 

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#2904 IanMH

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Posted 19 January 2020 - 12:36

  Possibly my favourite race car ever !...photo has been Pete-treated ! :D ... Cheers Ian 

 

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#2905 elansprint72

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Posted 19 January 2020 - 20:46

Mirage at Le Mans(!). 

 

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:smoking:


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#2906 RogerFrench

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Posted 19 January 2020 - 23:05

Possibly my favourite race car ever !...photo has been Pete-treated ! :D ... Cheers Ian

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Posted 20 January 2020 - 10:15

  Possibly my favourite race car ever !...photo has been Pete-treated ! :D ... Cheers Ian 

 

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When we moved into my current home in North London in 1977, there was a B8 for sale in the dealership at the end of our garden for £1,200...



#2908 kayemod

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Posted 20 January 2020 - 10:22

When we moved into my current home in North London in 1977, there was a B8 for sale in the dealership at the end of our garden for £1,200...

"...and still 'ave change!"



#2909 john aston

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Posted 20 January 2020 - 10:22

And I cherish the memory of seeing a B8  being driven in heavy traffic  through Leeds City Centre in the early Seventies



#2910 2F-001

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Posted 20 January 2020 - 11:25

Mirage at Le Mans(!). 

 

:smoking:

 

You had me puzzled for a moment - until I realized you were referring to the 'Howmet haze'!

 

Who was is who hillclimbed a (silver?) B8 as a modsports in the UK the early '80s?

(I was tempted to say say Tony Bancroft - later with a quick 911 - but think I may be confusing things here...)



#2911 john aston

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 07:19

I recall Tony in TVR Griffith (then driving as Spotty Smith )  , GT 40 and 911 but not a B8 . But I may be wrong


Edited by john aston, 21 January 2020 - 07:19.


#2912 Stephen W

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 07:25

Tony Bancroft did run the Chevron B19 BMW 3.0 but it was blue & yellow.



#2913 2F-001

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 08:31

A vague memory of that may be what has confused me Stephen... but definitely a B8 that I recall.

I'll have to dig out some old programmes now, to find whose it was!



#2914 IanMH

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 10:28

A vague memory of that may be what has confused me Stephen... but definitely a B8 that I recall.

I'll have to dig out some old programmes now, to find whose it was!

not early 80's, but John Cleland hill-climbed a B8 at Doune in 1973...sponsored by Play-Golf...it was bright red/white...Cheers Ian



#2915 2F-001

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 12:46

Didn't Jim Thompson run a B8 for time as well?

 

But the driver I was thinking of is Roland Jones...

for example:

Shelsley, Aug 83 (National Champ meeting)

GT and Modsports over 1600

Chevron B8, number 52.

 

Held class record there for quite a while (30.98) established in previous July (so presumably a Midland round - don't have a programme for that one); also record holder at Prescott, and possibly elsewhere too.

 

I think class regs must have changed some time later, since a few years after Modsports (without the 'GT's) record for Shelsley is shown with a 'slower' time (for another 911 stalwart, Josh Sadler). I was never quite clear on how a B8 would qualify as either a Modsports or a GT. (Although those of a more purist persuasion might say that is no greater anomaly than Chevrons, Lolas and Tigas running as Skodas.)


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#2916 elansprint72

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 13:31

Great to see some "chat" here; this thread was not intended just for fancy photos of cars racing (or racing cars!), it was supposed to be a kind of "catch-all" for whatever people felt appropriate. Looking back at the first couple of pages of the thread reminds me why it was started. Keep it up.

 

Are any folks here still using old film cameras (for any subject, not just cars)? I seldom bump into anyone with a "proper" camera these day; however a few weeks ago I was wandering around the back streets of Manchester and met a guy with not one but two Olympus OM1's round his neck; we had quite a chat. Like myself he only shoots the odd roll of B+W film, develops it himself and then scans the negs; we agreed that wet-printing paper was just too much faff these days.

 

This is what I was toting that day:

 

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Edited by elansprint72, 23 January 2020 - 13:32.


#2917 E1pix

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 15:55

I was just working on a photo's highlights that seemed to be a paler shade of white. Or something like that.

Thanks for the visual, leading immediately to starting our day playing one of my favorite videos. Yes, that one from the church yard, five decades back.

Great post. I think many look in here but are reluctant to post for fear of a lot of things we've all experienced -- and think that's a shame. Some of us have worked the cameras and computers harder and longer and that is all. For decades now, friends don't even want to show me their vacation photos as if they're "not worthy," then we have "the talk" and I get to see them. Sadly, there can be a lot of elitism in photography and that only hurts us all.

I hope everyone here understands this thread's not about that. It's about documenting our common love of racing, remembering why it is, and making those memories shine in a brighter light if that's what we want. Or not.

#2918 Simon Arron

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 17:12

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Here's one I wouldn't have taken had I owned a Nikon F in 1968, not least because I was seven years old and thus ineligible for a photo armband. Plus, of course, there were no F2 races at Brands Hatch that season. And I lived more than 350 kilometres away at the time, in Cheshire... Anyway, here is a blatant cheat - Daniel Pyett's '68 Tecno taken with Nikon D800 at Surtees Bend, Brands Hatch, when the car was 48 summers old... and the photographer of slightly greater antiquity.



#2919 JacnGille

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 19:02

 

Are any folks here still using old film cameras (for any subject, not just cars)?

 

 

I still have my dinosaur Minolta 7000i that I have not completely abandoned.



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Posted 23 January 2020 - 22:09

Bloggsworth, on 20 Jan 2020 - 10:15, said:snapback.png

When we moved into my current home in North London in 1977, there was a B8 for sale in the dealership at the end of our garden for £1,200...

"...and still 'ave change


 

We spent every penny we had, £18,900! It's worth a lot more now!

 

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by Bloggsworth, 23 January 2020 - 22:10.


#2921 2F-001

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 00:24

I do like that Tecno... and have always thought of Surtees as an 'underrated' and wonderfully challenging bend.

 

Pete - I still shoot a little film now and then, usually reversal film - and increasingly infrequently, I must admit.

I still have an OM2, OM4 and a bag of prime lenses. I'd like to do some medium format but don't do my own processing and it all gets a rather costly and expensive. These days, digital makes quite a bit of sense for medium or large format (leaving aside the cost of the camera!).

 

When I was working as an art director in advertising we often colour shot on 10x8, and just occasionally on 14x12. I shudder to think what that would cost now - if it's still possible!



#2922 elansprint72

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 13:16

 

"When I was working as an art director in advertising we often colour shot on 10x8, and just occasionally on 14x12. I shudder to think what that would cost now - if it's still possible!"

 

 

Still possible but.... don't ask!  :rolleyes:



#2923 uffen

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 15:08

I still shoot plenty of film, always have. I just added digital, and while I find digital handy in some situations, I also find it boring and soulless.

My overall balance has shifted over toward film.



#2924 2F-001

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 19:59

I still shoot plenty of film, always have. I just added digital, and while I find digital handy in some situations, I also find it boring and soulless.

My overall balance has shifted over toward film.

I think that highlights how we can all get something slightly different out of photography; a very good thing, I'd say...



#2925 IanMH

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Posted 25 January 2020 - 16:06

Jings, isn't t' internet a wonderful thing... found this while browsing... Ingliston May 1980...Cheers Ian  :clap:

 

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copyright unknown but via Iain Nicolson


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#2926 elansprint72

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Posted 26 January 2020 - 14:42

Two blue. The noise when two Matra V12's were running was music. Notice the eye of the driver!

 

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Posted 26 January 2020 - 20:57

Been doing a little scanning of old, old negatives over the weekend - this from the Bentley Drivers' Club meeting at Silverstone in August 1971.

 

Lots of spots and streaks, very non-vertical verticals but still quite fun, if only for the variety on the grid.

 

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#2928 IanMH

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 17:12



Frazer Nash is possibly my most favourite pre-WW2 car to photograph. 

Jo Blakeney-Edwards poses for the camera; I wish that every other racer made it this easy for us to photograph.   ;)

 

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Yes , It's amazing how often you make direct eye contact with drivers or riders flashing by...some can spot a lens at 200m !

 

Him -  " I hope I've got this apex just right..."

 

Her -  "who's that handsome devil with the camera !?"

 

sorry it's a wheel short of a car, but it does have a Imp engine ....Bo'ness 2010 ... Cheers Ian  :)

 

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#2929 Belmondo

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 17:26

Fabulous shot. I would guess probably Bruce Halford and Willie Green at the front.

 

 

Been doing a little scanning of old, old negatives over the weekend - this from the Bentley Drivers' Club meeting at Silverstone in August 1971.

 

Lots of spots and streaks, very non-vertical verticals but still quite fun, if only for the variety on the grid.

 

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#2930 E1pix

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 17:29

Him -  " I hope I've got this apex just right..."
 
Her -  "who's that handsome devil with the camera !?"


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Posted 02 February 2020 - 22:39

On that theme - I've always wondered about this shot ... Prescott Bleu / Rosso weekend 2017

 

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#2932 GreenMachine

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 23:06

"Why do I always get to sit on the noisy side?"



#2933 elansprint72

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Posted 03 February 2020 - 17:37

Well.... I've started. Finally, after eight years of making excuses....  :smoking:

 

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#2934 E1pix

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Posted 03 February 2020 - 17:42

Engine rebuild, Pete?

#2935 WDH74

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Posted 05 February 2020 - 01:00

.

 

Are any folks here still using old film cameras (for any subject, not just cars)? 

 

Yep - in fact one of the things I've started doing again (in my absence here and elsewhere) is shooting a little film. Some years ago I got a lovely Polaroid SX70, which I'd used a few times with the former Impossible Project Now Polaroid Originals film. Last summer I scored a cheap One Step at the flea market (ten bucks!) which inspired me to try instant film again. I couldn't get any good results out of the One Step with a fresh pack of color film, but I ran a pack of B&W through the SX and it turned out quite good. I'll try and scan a few and share them here. 

 

I also scored myself a really sweet, early Canon AE-1, also at the flea market (fifteen bucks!). Once I tracked down an owners manual and an appropriate battery, it turned on and appeared to work so I picked up a couple of rolls of TriX and started toting it around with me for the next few months. I finally got them developed (I haven't the equipment, there's only one place near me that does it, and it's half hour away, a lot of local college students use it too, and they do everything by hand so it took a couple of weeks to get it done). The negatives look fine but I used a little film scanner gadget to scan them and they looked terrible - like someone had cranked up the "fade" setting in an editing app - but I've managed to salvage one or two of them. I'm likely going to try the photograph them with the camera technique next. I bought a couple more rolls when I picked them up - not sure if I'll use the Canon again (it makes that weird squeal noise that A series make, so I either need to get it serviced or try oiling it myself), my trusty K1000, or a little Kodak Retina that I'm curious to see if it works correctly (last serviced in 1963 at a Kodak facility in Oak Brook, Illinois). 

 

I might actually get seriouser about this - a close friend of mine is a photographer (she used to do it professionally), and she has dozens of undeveloped rolls of film, as she would just carry a camera around with her all the time but couldn't afford development or didn't have a place to properly do it - and she ended up giving away or selling off all her equipment when she moved from New York to Chicago. So we've entered discussions about pooling our money and buying some equipment and developing chemicals and going into business for ourselves. Anyway, here's one of the film scans, it's even automotive themed, and a picture of the Canon that I took using the oft derided Hipstamatic app, because a tool's a tool. 

 

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#2936 JacnGille

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Posted 05 February 2020 - 18:31

I too had an AE-1.



#2937 Steve L

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Posted 05 February 2020 - 18:44

Been doing a little scanning of old, old negatives over the weekend - this from the Bentley Drivers' Club meeting at Silverstone in August 1971.
 
Lots of spots and streaks, very non-vertical verticals but still quite fun, if only for the variety on the grid.
 
BDC-Silverstone-Aug-71-Start.jpg


Great pic.

Wish they had historic mixed grid races like that now!

#2938 Odseybod

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Posted 09 February 2020 - 12:25

A couple more blasts from the past, this time practice (as we called it) for the 1973 Silverstone TT, featuring the Hezemans/Quester BMW 3.0 CSL and works Capri of Jochen Mass.

 

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(with a nod towards the faithful Zenith B with Soligor 135mm lens and dubious 3x convertor - but not the cleanliness of my developing skills)

 



#2939 bradbury west

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Posted 09 February 2020 - 13:36

Brilliant Capri shot. Many thanks
Roger Lund

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#2940 Simon Arron

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Posted 09 February 2020 - 15:41

This doesn't have the poise or outrageous charisma of Tony's 1973 shot of Jochen Mass's Capri at Silverstone, but more than 40 years later I still love Capris as much as ever I did. I know it was only a Cortina in a mini-skirt, but who cares? It was marketed as 'the car you've always promised yourself' - and half a century later I'd still like one. Attached shot is from 2017, Steve Dance gliding through Cascades during the Oulton Park Gold Cup...

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#2941 Odseybod

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Posted 09 February 2020 - 16:33

A couple more from 1973, this time the Sutton Park stage of the RAC Rally, featuring Jack Tordoff in the 2.7 Carrera  RS and Andrew Cowan in an RS1600 that already looks a bit secondhand.

 

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#2942 john aston

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Posted 09 February 2020 - 17:21

I recall the quiet  satisfaction that only an anorak can truly enjoy at having bought ,my Golf GTi Mk2 from JCT 600 in '89...



#2943 dwh43scale

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 10:38

Darkness and modern cameras bring opportunities with a little editing - the South Downs Stages rally at Goodwood last weekend. Cibies and an Escort in the foreground; the Control Tower Cafe in the background.

 

 

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#2944 alansart

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 13:05

As we are in "Rally Mode" here's my contribution.

lan Walker and Andrew Sankey tackle Druids with gusto in their Ford Escort. Oulton Park, 2012.

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#2945 elansprint72

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 19:28

Seeing as we're doing Escorts..... this was 20 October 1974 at the Mid-Cheshire Motor Racing Club hill-climb at Baitings Dam in the Pennines. 

 

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#2946 elansprint72

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 19:34

RAC Rally, Heaton Park, Manchester 1975.

 

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#2947 alansart

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 19:39

Howden Ganley, Citroen SM, Avon Tour of Britain, 1973. Not your average race car :cool:

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#2948 2Bob

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 20:10

"Howden Ganley, Citroen SM, Avon Tour of Britain, 1973. Not your average race car  :cool:"

 

Not your average driver or author either.  Just finish Howden's book and really enjoyed it.  Your picture made me rush of to look at it again because I thought I recognized the photo from the book.  Wasn't the same photo (different background but same lean on the car!).  Was it one of yours or were you sitting down where the photographer in the book was standing up?   Both really good photos...



#2949 alansart

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 22:13

"Howden Ganley, Citroen SM, Avon Tour of Britain, 1973. Not your average race car  :cool:"

 

Not your average driver or author either.  Just finish Howden's book and really enjoyed it.  Your picture made me rush of to look at it again because I thought I recognized the photo from the book.  Wasn't the same photo (different background but same lean on the car!).  Was it one of yours or were you sitting down where the photographer in the book was standing up?   Both really good photos...

The photo is all mine. Taken at Knebworth Park and scanned from a small print as the negs were lost years ago.

In this one Vern Schuppan does his best 'Sweeny' impression :)

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#2950 Odseybod

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 23:11

Just to muddy the waters - why change the habit of a lifetime - here's what I think is a different SM, also in 1973 but this time I think rounding the hairpin at Mallory Park. It certainly looks a lighter colour than the one in Alan's pic - not sure who's at the helm, though.

 

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Sorry for the particularly crappy photo, as the Zenith's shutter was once again overdue for re-tensioning. I always said it was built on the same engineering principles as a T34 tank, which also apparently needed its moving parts tightened up at regular intervals.