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[ImDDAA]

Do you not like any of them?

I like Istanbul, Sepang and Shanghai are fine. I don't know what to make of Yeongam yet, ask me in a few years.

I wouldn't be upset to see any of the rest of his tracks go.

[LewEngBridewell]

I like Istanbul, Sepang and Shanghai are fine. I don't know what to make of Yeongam yet, ask me in a few years.

I wouldn't be upset to see any of the rest of his tracks go.

Good choices, although I must say I love Singapore too. We need to see what Korea is like without the rain...

[Fastcake]

I like Istanbul, Sepang and Shanghai are fine. I don't know what to make of Yeongam yet, ask me in a few years.

I wouldn't be upset to see any of the rest of his tracks go.

Yeongam needs a dry race to really judge it, it looked like quite a good track in the dry, against my first thoughts after seeing the plans. The new Hockenheimring is decent enough as well, are there any others currently?

[Brandz07]

Yeongam needs a dry race to really judge it, it looked like quite a good track in the dry, against my first thoughts after seeing the plans. The new Hockenheimring is decent enough as well, are there any others currently?

Valencia i believe, which is rubbish

[engel]

F1 has more races than it needs to be honest, so purely from a financial POV why keep Turkey on a low fee when you can add in Russia on a higher fee.

If we find ourselves in a point through the cycle where promoters (or governments) are no longer willing to subsidize the GP for the possible tourism benefits, then we can talk again. But frankly Valencia, or to be more accurate some politicians down there, made a huge song and dance about how expensive the GP was but I haven't seen getting anywhere near telling Bernie to shove it.

[Fastcake]

Valencia i believe, which is rubbish

Yes, Valencia is rubbish! Although the city hardly helped Tilke by giving him a flat dull port-side area of Valencia. Rumours have it however that Valencia too is going after Turkey, all remains to be seen.

Tilke tracks get far too much unfair criticism to be honest though, most of his circuits are very good. Most of the complaints come from the natural landscape, I'd like to know how elevation changes and more exciting locations can be found when he's given a plot of land in a desert.

Edited by Fastcake, 22 April 2011 - 20:48.

[RC127]

I voted no, not because I don't rate Istanbul as a great track (it most certainly IS), but in a year where it would be a direct swap - Austin for Istanbul - we'd be losing one great track for an even better one, at least that is what it seems like from the blueprints / simulations of the Texan F1 facility...

I wish that the Turkish GP had been more successful - I think the track's birth (just one year before the economic downturn) was just an instance of "wrong place at the wrong time" - it was never well attended and unfortunately this meant the track's owners would always be looking to escape from what must've been a loss-making venture.

Plus we have India coming in this year - which also looks promising, although we said that about Valencia and Singapore and only Singapore has been a success.
I am interested to see how the trifecta (Pirelli/KERS/DRS) affects Valencia and Singapore this year - after China, I think most if not all of the Tilke tracks could deliver sensational races this year, even Abu Dhabi which is undergoing changes to improve the racing for the 2011 installment.

[ImDDAA]

India is Tilke no? Wonder what's going on with that track, haven't read anything for a while...

[ImDDAA]

Yes, Valencia is rubbish! Although the city hardly helped Tilke by giving him a flat dull port-side area of Valencia. Rumours have it however that Valencia too is going after Turkey, all remains to be seen.

Tilke tracks get far too much unfair criticism to be honest though, most of his circuits are very good. Most of the complaints come from the natural landscape, I'd like to know how elevation changes and more exciting locations can be found when he's given a plot of land in a desert.

It doesn't matter if it's Tilke's fault or not, if a track's crap then a track's crap. It's mostly subjective anyway, if you like them then good for you, you have plenty.

[AvranaKern]

Ecclestone hopes for Turkey deal

Bernie Ecclestone has said that he hopes a deal can still be reached to extend the contract of the Turkish Grand Prix.

Race organisers last week said that the future of the race was in doubt, with the head of the Istanbul Chamber of Commerce, Murat Yalcinta, claiming that Ecclestone had asked for the race fee to be doubled when the contract expires following this year's race. The race struggles to make money from ticket sales, with 200,000 spectators at the inaugural race in 2005 falling to around 35,000 in recent seasons.

Despite new races in India, the United States and Russia being added to the calendar over the next few seasons, Ecclestone has said he hasn't given up on agreeing new terms for the race at Istanbul Park to continue.

"The race brings a huge amount of people, trade and publicity to the city," Ecclestone told the Daily Express. "I am a bit disappointed and I hope we can work out a deal."

http://en.espnf1.com...tory/47048.html

[AvranaKern]

Turkish GP can be resurrected after all. This week will be critical as FiA Awards Ceremony and WMSC will be held in İstanbul. Lots of discussions, lots of compromise. Who knows, perhaps 2013 may see Turkish GP back in the calender.

Ecclestone:

I don't feel 82, and as a matter of fact I'm now going to Geneva, then to Istanbul to see if we can get back the Turkish GP and [will then] participate at the World Council.

Would you want Turkish GP back?

[jcbc3]

yes, please.

at the expense of Valencia or Korea.

[BigCHrome]

I want the Turkish GP back. The track is fun, though it doesn't work with DRS.

yes, please.

at the expense of Valencia or Korea.

Valencia won't be on the calendar; Korea will be.

[AvranaKern]

There are some statements from Turkish Motor Sports Federation that they have agreed with Bernie about 2013 Turkish GP.

[Mc_Silver]

It is great news, Istanbul Park is great circuit and one of the best Tilke tracks IMHO.

[DutchQuicksilver]

Will probably slot in after the German GP then