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[jj2728]

Big blocks and trumpets....blow your horns.

Edited by jj2728, 05 March 2011 - 00:38.

[brucemoxon]

Righto

Corvette motor in a Bocar



Chev in the HWM Stovebolt Special



Mercedes-Benz twin-turbo in Sauber Le Mans car



Repco-Brabham.




This what you meant?



Bruce Moxon

[jj2728]

Absolutely!

[gavinevitt]

Here are a load of photos of V8 engines, everything from the flathead Ford V860, 2 special V8 midget engines, through to a Can Am big banger.
















































From the top:
Ford V860 Midget engine
Synergy V8 Midget engine (modern)
Kenyon Bros Midget engine
Olds in Old Yeller
GM V8 in restored Rod Coppins Pontiac
F5000 Chev
Repco
Scarab Chev
Climax 1.5
Ford sb in restored race Mustang
Nostalgia Dragsters. BB Chev? SB Chev Chrysler Hemi
Ford V8 Flathead with Edelbrock heads
Ford Cosworth DFV in M23/1
Ford Sprintcar Alloy Block (modern).
Gaerte sb Chev Alloy Block (modern)
SB Chev Can-Am
Kriners Alloy Block Sprintcar (modern)
Repco Brabham
BB Chev in McLaren M12

All photos taken by me.

Edited by gavinevitt, 06 March 2011 - 00:26.

[Red Socks]

Maybe its me but it does look like quite a few of those old V8's have got very modern looking exhaust systems on them, but that wouldn't be a surprise would it?

[vekspeed]

[maoricar]

Maybe its me but it does look like quite a few of those old V8's have got very modern looking exhaust systems on them, but that wouldn't be a surprise would it?

My guess that they were probably period style; probably replaced over time, due to the usual rust, corrosion, cracking etc etc.

Those V-8 guys knew how to get waste gases out in a hurry.....In the late 1960s, I recall taking what had been a 1300 Ford Escort...that I had fitted with a 1600GT lump, to chap that specialized in making extractors (headers) for V-8s ( he drove a big block Corvette...a REAL rarity in NZ at that time).

Taking a look at this microscopic engine...he muttered "come back in a week with cash"....... a week later I picked up the car with what can only be described as a work of art in terms of an exhaust system.....later tuning on a chassis dyno proved that it was very effective.

From memory it was not THAT expensive either.

[D-Type]

Here are a load of photos of V8 engines, everything from the flathead Ford V860, 2 special V8 midget engines, through to a Can Am big banger.

Any chance of some some captions for those of us not as knowledgeable as yourself. Please

[D-Type]

Any chance of some some captions for those of us not as knowledgeable as yourself. Please

[jj2728]

Mine are from 1972. The top photo is the McLaren M20 and I'm not sure whose car it is in the lower photo.

[D-Type]

Righto

Corvette motor in a Bocar



Chev in the HWM Stovebolt Special



~
This what you meant?



Bruce Moxon

Curious. Three carbs on a V8. The numbers don't work

[eldougo]

...Alfa Romeo v8


...Repco v8


...Repco v8
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Edited by eldougo, 05 March 2011 - 23:44.

[Ray Bell]

In the Mildren team's Brabham Alfa and the Healey respectively?

That Brabham's been through the wars...

[brucemoxon]

In the Mildren team's Brabham Alfa and the Healey respectively?

That Brabham's been through the wars...

Yes, but the second is a 2.5 litre Tasman BT23 and the last is the Matich SR4. I think.




BM

[brucemoxon]

Curious. Three carbs on a V8. The numbers don't work

I'd have thought not either. But they're both pretty effective devices - interestingly both American too. The Bocar's manifold is an Offenhauser - were they a speed shop brand or bespoke?

Never mind - a quick bit of research revealed...

http://www.exeteraut.....r catalog.pdf


And there was a Pontiac GTO road car that had three carbs that worked sequentially.



Bruce Moxon

Edited by brucemoxon, 06 March 2011 - 04:16.

[Lee Nicolle]

Curious. Three carbs on a V8. The numbers don't work

The numbers do work. The carbs feed a common plenum. In the 60s Triple 97s on a Moon, Edelbrock or similar manifold was a hot set up for most small block engines. And you can still buy them in Edelbrock for both the three bolt 97s and 4 bolt 94s and 2bbl Rochesters. Usually set up with the middle carb on a progessive linkage so it only opens late. Quite common on period style hotrods.
As you have said the tripower set up was used on GTOs. Mopar used a better set up on T/A 340s with 3 special modular Holleys. There was others too.

Edited by Lee Nicolle, 03 April 2012 - 22:11.

[brucemoxon]

The numbers do work. The carbs feed a common plenum. In the 60s Triple 97s on a Moon, Edelbrock or similar manifold was a hot set up for most small block engines. And you can still but them in Edelbrock for both the three bolt 97s and 4 bolt 94s and 2bbl Rochesters. Usually set up with the middle carb on a progessive linkage so it only opens late. Quite common on period style hotrods.
As you have said the tripower set up was used on GTOs. Mopar used a better set up on T/A 340s with 3 special modular Holleys. There was others too.

Thanks Lee. I learn so much on here.

And both those triple carb setups are using Carters, another 50s hotrodder favourite.



Bruce Moxon

[David Shaw]

Yes, but the second is a 2.5 litre Tasman BT23 and the last is the Matich SR4. I think.

BM

The middle pic appears to be the BT31, as it appears to have the 30 Series heads and swept back inlet trumpets.

[Ray Bell]

There was a 'six-pack' carby setup on 440 Chryslers too...

I thought the central carby fed the low loads, the others opened progressively when the foot was planted.

[arttidesco]

Nice 2m 30 sec video about this one here :-)

[arttidesco]

[arttidesco]

Darracq



JAP



MG







Dodge

[Ray Bell]

Nobody has a picture of the Peugeot V8?

I think I have one of the Oakland somewhere... and Cadillac, P76, Cummins and BRM seem to be missing from this gallery so far.

[Peter Leversedge]

All engines should be V8s

[Lee Nicolle]

There was a 'six-pack' carby setup on 440 Chryslers too...

I thought the central carby fed the low loads, the others opened progressively when the foot was planted.

I have seen them done both ways. On Mopars I think you are right.

[arttidesco]

and BRM seem to be missing from this gallery so far.

See post 22

Edited by arttidesco, 06 March 2011 - 23:54.

[WDH74]

I'm sure I've shared this one before.

Ardun by William 74, on Flickr

[onelung]

...hope its size doesn't make it too off-topic

Edited by onelung, 07 March 2011 - 02:15.

[Lee Nicolle]

Just a boring Carby fed Chev.

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[Lee Nicolle]

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And a carby fed 351 Cleveland.
And for the Americans a stock 302 Cleveland in its original enviroment

[simonlewisbooks]

...hope its size doesn't make it too off-topic

Brian Chatfield's Jankel Tempest as raced in the Castle Combe Special GTs in 1995... there's a V8 in there somewhere.......

[Lee Nicolle]

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400 Ford in a roomier enviroment

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253 [4.2] Holden V8 in a 75 Holden.

Edited by Lee Nicolle, 07 March 2011 - 11:35.

[onelung]

2/3rds of what Henry saw as an airplane power unit.

Sorry - no trumpets...

[Lee Nicolle]

2/3rds of what Henry saw as an airplane power unit.

Sorry - no trumpets...

Now that is a huge lump of aluminium!!

[timbo]

The Bruce McLaren Trust's, McLaren M8A.


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[arttidesco]

The blurb said that last year Ian Hanson driving this 1953 Chevrolet Corvette C1 managed 7.29 secs for the 402 meters thanks to the 'mild state of tune' 1700hp being pumped out of the 8860cc / 540 cui all alloy New Century Chevrolet Big Block, with forged Arias pistons, Brooks alloy rods, Howards billet crank, and Aviade dry sump oil system that is hiding behind an Enderie 'Big & Ugly' injector hat and fuel system with an 8/71 Teflon Stage 4 Littlefield Supercharger.

This year he plans to run more boost in an attempt to get under the 7 second bracket.

I'll do my best to make sure I am there to see it, if I'm really lucky I suppose I might just have enough time to take a photo

[onelung]

Now that is a huge lump of aluminium!!

The cynical would likely enjoy pointing out that it also went into (ahem) ... tanks.

[Lee Nicolle]

The cynical would likely enjoy pointing out that it also went into (ahem) ... tanks.

That is presumng it is aluminium, not just silver paint. What sort of engine is it. Defenitly not one i have seem before. It is bloody humungous!!
The only Ford tank engine I have seen was a bit earlier I think. The venerable sidevalve V8 which was i believe used in pairs.

[onelung]

That is presumng it is aluminium, not just silver paint. What sort of engine is it. Defenitly not one i have seem before. It is bloody humungous!!
The only Ford tank engine I have seen was a bit earlier I think. The venerable sidevalve V8 which was i believe used in pairs.

Here 'tis...

[Lee Nicolle]

Here 'tis...

It looks better raw alloy than khaki green!
Now just lets ho it up to turn some serious RPM. Like about 5000.

[eldougo]

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NOW THAT IS ONE BIG UNIT

Edited by eldougo, 08 March 2011 - 07:53.

[Wilyman]

...hope its size doesn't make it too off-topic

onelung,
I don't know if you need an answer to your picture but, I'll say its a Moto Guzzi 500cc V8.

[onelung]

onelung,
I don't know if you need an answer to your picture but, I'll say its a Moto Guzzi 500cc V8.

Which is why I suggested it might be (at a non big-block 500cc) a little off-topic. Thanks anyway.

[BritishV8]

I've got some V8 / trumpet photos, but they're mostly on small blocks...

several examples:

Chevy 305cid V8 with Kinsler/Lucas fuel injection system (and Kinsler manifold) on a WRE F5000 car.


Chevy 305cid V8 with MacKay/Lucas fuel injection system on a McRae F5000 car.


Ford Boss 302 V8 with Doug Nash intake manifold and two Autolite four barrel carburetors on a Chinook F5000 car.


Small block Chevy (at 333cid) with Weber 48 IDA carbs on Penske cast magnesium intake manifolds.

[Lee Nicolle]

I've got some V8 / trumpet photos, but they're mostly on small blocks...

several examples:

Chevy 305cid V8 with Kinsler/Lucas fuel injection system (and Kinsler manifold) on a WRE F5000 car.


Chevy 305cid V8 with MacKay/Lucas fuel injection system on a McRae F5000 car.


Ford Boss 302 V8 with Doug Nash intake manifold and two Autolite four barrel carburetors on a Chinook F5000 car.


Small block Chevy (at 333cid) with Weber 48 IDA carbs on Penske cast magnesium intake manifolds.

I hope those 305s are actually 302 Chevs. Otherwise they will be slow and economical!! The 305 is 3 3/4" bore by 3.48 stroke and the 302 is 4"x 3". The only true performance Chevys are the 4" engines. 302 327 350. Most can be made to go ok but the small bore engines will not take the big valve heads. The 400 Chev was ever only a 2bbl low comp family car hauler but can be made into a very good performer for street use,,, or the basis for a 410 Sprintcar engine though there is no actual Chevy parts in those!

[Bob Riebe]

That is presumng it is aluminium, not just silver paint. What sort of engine is it. Defenitly not one i have seem before. It is bloody humungous!!
The only Ford tank engine I have seen was a bit earlier I think. The venerable sidevalve V8 which was i believe used in pairs.

It is worth time to do a net search for info on.
One article, sadly again this may have been in a print mag, said this engine incorporated ideas which when used on the Ford DFV years later were considered leading edge tech.

[Bob Riebe]

JON KAASE FORD HEMI RACE MOTOR

$65,000.00-pre-owned.

Edited by Bob Riebe, 10 March 2011 - 23:48.

[Patrick Fletcher]

Cool V8 startcart - sorry if you have seen the link prior.

http://www.wvi.com/~...er/ag330_sr.htm

[onelung]

It is worth time to do a net search for info on.
One article, sadly again this may have been in a print mag, said this engine incorporated ideas which when used on the Ford DFV years later were considered leading edge tech.

Trying to locate my library reference (aviation section) to it (it's in there somewhere, but don't hold your breath!), but in the mean time - never mind the quality...feel the width!
More info here, but from it I can't help but extract this line... "Any person who finds that the job cannot get done with an engine of this size should find another hobby." I love it!

Edited by onelung, 11 March 2011 - 03:53.

[B Squared]

photos: B²