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BBC Grand Prix - The Killer Years - Documentary


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#101 redreni

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 21:07

If he wasn't a fireman then he certainly had fire training - He is the one who takes the extinguisher off Purley, as Purley does not know how to activate it. He then approaches the fire and uses the extinguisher correctly, spraying it at ground level from side to side from the optimum distance to maximise the effect of the powder and working towards the cockpit area of teh car. Once Purley takes the extinguisher off him he maybe thought Purley would know how to use it correctly. I am not sure how you would expect him to get the extinguisher of Purley again. Purley was the only person there who was wearing flame-proof overalls and he would have been better trying to move the car whilst allowing the other guy to use the extinguisher.

IIRC continental circuits at that time used local firemen as fire marshals, and they tended to be very protective over who used the extinguishers - even threatening to go on strike if non-fireman picked up an extinguisher.


In my view the reality is that it was a petrol fire and there was simply not enough extinguishant in the fire extinguisher to put it out, so the most that could have been done with the extinguisher was to buy Williamson some time, but it took the fire truck so long to arrive that it was always going to be too late, If they had righted the car they could have pulled Williamson from the flames, but there was only one person at the scene wearing clothing that allowed him to get in a proper position to push the car over onto its wheels (Purley), and he couldn't do it alone. If other drivers had stopped, it might have been different.

There is an interview with Williamson filmed on the day after the race where he says that although he had been angry about it the previous evening, he could now see why the other drivers didn't stop. If you think about it, each driver had a spli-second decision to make when they passed the crash site for the first time - stop or continue. They had to slow for the yellow flags but be mindful of not slowing too much in case the car behind should ram them, By the time the drivers passed the accident for the second time, it would have been too late anyway. Purley did say he thought the time taken for the fire truck to arrive needed to be looked into, and if I recall rightly he pointed out that the marshalls at the scene would have set fire to their clothes and ended up dead if they had got any closer than they did to the burning car.

For me, it's not worth criticising anybody who was there as they were working with totally inadequate equipment and safety procedures. It's easy to sit in front of a computer and say a man dressed in cotton and nylon clothing should have turned a burning car onto its wheels and pulled a man from the flames, but that might just as easily have made the consequences of the accident even worse. What still strikes me about the incident, though, is the sheer brutality of the fact that the race went on - the fire trucks arrived, they put the flames out, they tipped the car onto its wheels, put a blanket over the corpse and the race went on. It's like it wasn't even a big deal. I think the fact that those events were broadcast live in the Netherlands was something of a wake-up call to F1 that this something had to be done about this sort of thing, because those sort of pictures are the kind of thing that puts broadcasters, particularly state broadcasters, off motorsport altogether,

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#102 BoschKurve

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 19:57

They should have asked Jackie why he was overtaking under yellow flags at Kyalami in '73 when Hailwood and Regazzoni had their accident.

That aside, the documentary is sensationalist crap in many regards.

They managed to paint Colin Chapman as a borderline sociopath in my opinion. The documentary on the Team Lotus '73 season was far more interesting to see how Colin really was as there were plenty of candid moments. He expressed a genuine concern for Ronnie after one shunt. Not that he didn't have his foibles, but he was not the person the BBC documentary portrayed.

The cut-off at Williamson was a weird place to stop as there were so many further incidents ahead that it was sort of like slamming on the brakes.

#103 Andrew Hope

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 21:10

If you do check out this documentary and you don't know much about F1 in the 60s and 70s you should read as much as you can about the positive aspects of F1 in that era to balance out the negativity. If the first things you learn about that era of racing is what grim ends to a lot of lives it caused it becomes very easy to think of names like Williamson, Koinnig, Pryce etc. as crashes and not as people.

#104 BoschKurve

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 21:20

If you do check out this documentary and you don't know much about F1 in the 60s and 70s you should read as much as you can about the positive aspects of F1 in that era to balance out the negativity. If the first things you learn about that era of racing is what grim ends to a lot of lives it caused it becomes very easy to think of names like Williamson, Koinnig, Pryce etc. as crashes and not as people.


I second this Andrew.

F1 in the 1960s and 1970s was absolutely stunning on so many levels, but it's sadly become synonymous with death due to varying agendas.

It's easy to mention that say Jim Clark met his untimely end in 1968, but to do so discounts everything he did during the decade prior to Hockenheim. Not even a year earlier he put together one of the great performances at Zandvoort with the debut of the Lotus 49. Things like that put a smile on my face, and is how Jim Clark should be remembered, in my opinion.

The funny thing was that my "introduction" if you will to Grand Prix racing in the 1960s was Frankenheimer's film. It brought the era to life in such a way for me personally that I find it to be one of the most intriguing time periods in racing.

One of the things I also did not like with the documentary was the mention of Denis Jenkinson's infamous letter to Jackie Stewart back in that era. The thing that gets lost on many with regards to that letter (as I see so many even now say who the hell was he to talk about danger?) is that Jenkinson did ride with Sir Stirling at the Mille Miglia. I think Jenkinson was quite aware of the acute dangers presented by racing automobiles, as he had a front row seat to one of the most dangerous races ever.

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 12:59

I'd have thought being driven around Italy by Moss in a Mercedes would have seemed calm and serene after his years as a champion sidecar passenger.

On safety: "If man dabbles with a dangerous machine, he must be forced to take the consequences. No one has ever been forced to watch a motor race, nor have any of the drivers been forced to become racing drivers, so why all the pandemonium? Every year racing becomes more "milk and water" and real he-man motor racing is practically extinct, so that in the end one can foresee everyone wrapped in cotton wool, and then I hope they all choke to death in their own safety".

That was from 1957!

Edited by E.B., 23 July 2013 - 13:00.


#106 Andrew Hope

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 15:20

That's a hell of a quote.