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1971 BMW 3.0 CS Group 2 history ?

Started by RTH , Apr 10 2011 18:16

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#1 RTH

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Posted 10 April 2011 - 18:16

A friend is about to restore a racing BMW 3.0CS Group 2 coupe

This Chassis number is 2212227

The question is what can we trace as regards the history of this car ? Who we wonder built/ran the car Alpina ? Schnitzer ? etc

The owner thinks perhaps it dates from 1971 and is rumoured to have been used by Brian Muir in 1973 and by Tony Lanfranchi and Barry williams in the Tourist Trophy in 1975.

But is this true ? I wonder if anyone out there can help ?

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#2 David McKinney

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Posted 10 April 2011 - 18:45

BMW Mobile Tradition?

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#3 David Birchall

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Posted 10 April 2011 - 19:45

I would be interested to know if it has the ZF or Getrag gearbox?
The reason I ask is because of this discussion I found on a BMW board:
http://www.m5board.c...2-s-1972-a.html

There might be some info/contacts there of use. Caution: The discussion is 13 pages long!
I just fitted one of these ZF transmissions to my DB2.

Edited by David Birchall, 10 April 2011 - 21:36.

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#4 RTH

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Posted 11 April 2011 - 06:12

Thanks for that David I have passed it on.

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#5 harryt

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Posted 11 April 2011 - 07:34

Hi Richard,
Is this the car advertised for sale recently. Blue / white colours ? If so I can help you with some info.
Alex

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#6 RTH

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Posted 11 April 2011 - 07:45

Thanks Alex, don't know but could well be. I have passed it on and asked him to register and take part directly.

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#7 Gregor Marshall

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Posted 11 April 2011 - 12:52

Richard - if you know the dates of racing and what type of 3.0 I might be able to help.
I have photos of the car that my late father shared with Tony and Barrie in the '77 six hour race at Silverstone.
There is also the Mathwell-bulit car that Dad raced in '73 and Tony then took over - this car is now out in the States.
There was also a 3.0 BMW that Derrick Brunt used to race and I think both Dad and Tony had one-off drives in this.
Best person to ask about any old BMW racers is probably Jeremy Walton - he might see this thread as he is a TNF member.

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#8 Mallory Dan

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Posted 11 April 2011 - 12:58

If it was a full G2 car, like the one Muir raced in 73 here, it couldn't have been used in the 75 TT could it? That was for Trophy de l'Avenir regs, or Group 1 and a half, as it was called at the time.

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#9 Frank de Jong

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Posted 11 April 2011 - 14:45

Correct. More likely for a group 1 car to have beeen modified for this race. A group 1 car would have a 4-speed gearbox, a 73 group 2 a 5-speed.

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#10 Peter Darley

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Posted 11 April 2011 - 15:38

If it was a full G2 car, like the one Muir raced in 73 here, it couldn't have been used in the 75 TT could it? That was for Trophy de l'Avenir regs, or Group 1 and a half, as it was called at the time.

The car that Brian Muir raced in '73 was built by Alpina for BMW Concessionaires. It was run by Malcolm Gartlan Racing on their behalf, and returned to BMW at the end of the season. I do not think it would have been worthwhile "downgrading" a car to race in a lesser spec.