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[ForzaGTR]

Okay stupid topic title, but look at this board! Hamilton came 6th and is now the main topic of discussion. It seems no matter what he does, his actions are mostly what people care about. Whether he makes a silly joke or storms through the field to take victory, the level of Hamilton discussion remains the same.

Shall we talk about Vettel's first Monaco win? Or how Vettel is on his way to being the youngest 2 time WDC ever? NOPE, let's talk about Hamilton finishing 6th or Hamilton speaking to the BBC. Or Hamilton cooking some eggs...

COME ON PEOPLE, let's get some perspective here. Yes Lewis' post race comments were ridiculous, yes he should have been more constructive. But he spoke his mind and made a stupid joke (it was a joke, just not funny). People cry out for drivers to drop the PR nonsense and when one finally does speak their mind they get crucified.

Why do people focus on Hamilton so much? His every word, his every move, his every breath. It seems that Hamilton has to be perfect to avoid criticism.

Hamilton comments today were born out of frustration, comments made in the heat of the moment. We know he takes Senna's view of 2nd being the first loser. Most sportsman are sore losers, especially racing drivers. Hamilton made some silly errors today, but that said he finished 6th, not bad for what some people are calling his worst race ever!

Hamilton dominates this board, he dominated the BBC F1 forum today. Hamilton dominates the F1 world even when he isn't winning! What would people talk about if Hamilton were not in F1...hell they might actually talk about how awesome Vettel is right now!

[Longtimefan]

I admire Lewis's driving skills, he's very very good and exciting to watch in a battle but..

Playing the race card EVEN in jest is not a good thing to do. I would normally say I'd expect him to know better but I am honestly wondering if he had a lack of education as anyone looking at his tweets when he did them would see the guy is on the verge of being illiterate.

I am not attacking him, just wondering if his education (or lack of) can be the reason why he makes so many mistakes like this?

[velgajski1]

Great skills + controversial personality. I have a feeling that at some point of his career he'll sit in a dominant car and swipe the floor with competition

F1 existed before Hamilton, and will exist after Hamilton, but matter of fact is he is currently most discussed driver around and this is not by coincidence.

Edited by velgajski1, 29 May 2011 - 22:11.

[engel]

It's a predominantly British board, frequented by a lot of people that started following F1 with Hamilton. What do you expect?
Go read a 3Spanish board and you 'll see it's wall to wall Alonso even if he finishes 18th

[ForzaGTR]

I admire Lewis's driving skills, he's very very good and exciting to watch in a battle but..

Playing the race card EVEN in jest is not a good thing to do. I would normally say I'd expect him to know better but I am honestly wondering if he had a lack of education as anyone looking at his tweets when he did them would see the guy is on the verge of being illiterate.

I am not attacking him, just wondering if his education (or lack of) can be the reason why he makes so many mistakes like this?

The Ali G joke was stupid, but I think he is a sensitive guy. His emotions certainly get the better of him. His emotions can at times be a huge strength but at other times a huge weakness. In China his determination, all or nothing attitude won him the race. Today his frustration and impatience could/should have given him a DNF.

I like the fact he speaks his mind, but I am surprised nobody stopped him today!

I'm a huge Lewis fan, I think I understand him. At the end of day, he hates losing, he wants to win everything and believes he is capable of doing so. He is an exciting racing driver. I just wish people would cut him a break every now and then. Why do people have to scrutinise his every word?

[zeph]

I admire Lewis's driving skills, he's very very good and exciting to watch in a battle but..

Playing the race card EVEN in jest is not a good thing to do. I would normally say I'd expect him to know better but I am honestly wondering if he had a lack of education as anyone looking at his tweets when he did them would see the guy is on the verge of being illiterate.

I am not attacking him, just wondering if his education (or lack of) can be the reason why he makes so many mistakes like this?

I am thinking that this post is waaay more racist than anything Hamilton said today.

[pingu666]

I agree, hes pretty much had the mindshare since he started in f1. kinda like how rossi is the focus in motogp.

He took over from shcumi/montoya for the focus, the guy whos gonna do something, or have something happen...

[Bruce]

Sorry - pathetic thread.

Lewis Hamilton "dominated" this race only in the sense that he managed to drive himself into TWO separate penalties in the race (when is the last time THAT happened?) and had the bad taste to suggest {supposedly jokingly) that his penalties were the result of racism.

This is not what we want of an F1 driver of his calibre, is it?

Lewis "dominates" today because he threw tantrums - both in the car and out of it - and this is more interesting to most than the excellence of the race itself or the virtue of the top three drivers.

Sad.

[Bruce]

I agree, hes pretty much had the mindshare since he started in f1. kinda like how rossi is the focus in motogp.

He took over from shcumi/montoya for the focus, the guy whos gonna do something, or have something happen...

Rossi won multiple world championships - bad comparison.....

[BenettonB192]

This forum is by no stretch representative for the F1 audience as a whole. ..

[Jacobss]

That was the topic I was waiting for. A bunch of Hamilton's fanboys getting together to talk about how perfect, beatiful, and so on Hamilton is. Even the complete disaster, which Hamilton presented us today in the race, you are trying to convert in success. Just tasteless.

Let me tell you one thing - people are talking about him today not because he some kind of the F1 god, but because he was completely ridicoulous today. It was the same last year in Turkey with Vettel or Schumacher overtaking Alonso in the last corner last year in Monaco.

Hamilton dominates this board, he dominated the BBC F1 forum today. Hamilton dominates the F1 world even when he isn't winning! What would people talk about if Hamilton were not in F1...hell they might actually talk about how awesome Vettel is right now!

Yeah, because BBC and this board aren't BRITISH. This of course has nothing to do with Hamilton being british.

[tty]

It's a predominantly British board, frequented by a lot of people that started following F1 with Hamilton. What do you expect?

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[ForzaGTR]

Sorry - pathetic thread.

Lewis Hamilton "dominated" this race only in the sense that he managed to drive himself into TWO separate penalties in the race (when is the last time THAT happened?) and had the bad taste to suggest {supposedly jokingly) that his penalties were the result of racism.

This is not what we want of an F1 driver of his calibre, is it?

Lewis "dominates" today because he threw tantrums - both in the car and out of it - and this is more interesting to most than the excellence of the race itself or the virtue of the top three drivers.

Sad.

The issue is bigger because Hamilton was the driver involved.

[Bruce]

The issue is bigger because Hamilton was the driver involved.

And THAT, my fine friend, is the saddest response you could have given.

It's called hubris - Hamilton apparently suffers from it, and so, apparently, do you, vicariously.

[DanardiF1]

Sorry - pathetic thread.

Lewis Hamilton "dominated" this race only in the sense that he managed to drive himself into TWO separate penalties in the race (when is the last time THAT happened?) and had the bad taste to suggest {supposedly jokingly) that his penalties were the result of racism.

This is not what we want of an F1 driver of his calibre, is it?

Lewis "dominates" today because he threw tantrums - both in the car and out of it - and this is more interesting to most than the excellence of the race itself or the virtue of the top three drivers.

Sad.

Don't post in it then...

It was an observation on the 'stars' of F1 at the moment, and how Lewis Hamilton is a very love-hate figure... there's no doubting his talent behind the wheel, in fact he's probably the best out there, but his temprament and emotions do affect his driving from time to time. At heart he is a pure racer, and doesn't just want to win, but win in style. He's obviously busting a gut trying to beat Vettel right now and it's perhaps getting to him (witness the emotion coming from him in China).

He is a great character, and someone I would not want to see hounded out of F1 because of 'fans' beating down on him.

[King Six]

I think, he's the character of F1 these days. Korea 2010, he's the only one yelling lets go race in the rain. Monaco 2011, he's one of the very few saying there's no problem with DRS in the tunnel. It's hard not to say he's one of the few balls out racers on the grid. I can see how he gets a huge fanbase, but also a significant backlash.

I think, it would be almost disappointing for F1 if he were to get in a car like the RB6/RB7. Flying off into the distance and just driving fast like the current crop of Red Bull drivers more or less do.

He should own up more to mistakes though, but he has in previous years, not so much this year.

[Hole]

This forum is by no stretch representative for the F1 audience as a whole. ..

[Bruce]

Don't post in it then...

It was an observation on the 'stars' of F1 at the moment, and how Lewis Hamilton is a very love-hate figure... there's no doubting his talent behind the wheel, in fact he's probably the best out there, but his temprament and emotions do affect his driving from time to time. At heart he is a pure racer, and doesn't just want to win, but win in style. He's obviously busting a gut trying to beat Vettel right now and it's perhaps getting to him (witness the emotion coming from him in China).

He is a great character, and someone I would not want to see hounded out of F1 because of 'fans' beating down on him.

I don't think I've asked for him to be "hounded" out of F1 due to fans "beating down on him" and I doubt his seat is in jeopardy from same.

As to posting in the thread, should we not comment when we observe idiocy? Or should we pretend it doesn't exist?

If you wish to suggest that Hamilton is a brilliant F1 star based on his actions and comments today, good for you - but suggesting that I shouldn't argue because I disagree is - well - just perverse. What is the point of the forum?

[Barky]

It doesn't take a PhD Rocket Surgeon to figure out that a successful British driver is going to be popular on the BBC (what's that stand for again?) and on a predominantly British populated message board. Has anyone tried to figure out why Kubica is popular in Poland or Alonso in Spain? Maybe the crack team of investigators who started this thread will look into that one next

On a more serious note, don't overlook the fact that anyone really popular will have more fawning fanboys/girls, which I think a lot of people find more annoying than the driver himself. I don't have much of a problem with Hamilton (or any driver for that matter) but some of the people that post here...

[Buttoneer]

I don't see that this topic says anything which can't be said elsewhere.

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