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#51 BRG

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Posted 08 January 2024 - 11:08

I don't know why I missed this thread back in 2011.  I was rallying and sprinting in the south-east from about 1979 onwards and I do not recall ever hearing of Chichester Motoring Club.  There were other very active clubs in that area in the 1970s - Bognor Regis, Southsea and Cosmo.  They all used Goodwood for sprints and rallies but I never heard of Chichester running events there and as the most local club of all, surely they would have?  I can only imagine that the club either ran down and closed when its key members left/retired/died - something that did happen when a club relied on a few people to do everything - or it merged with another local club.  

 

Didn't the annual RACMSA Blue Books include a list of affiliated clubs?  If anyone had copies for around that time it might show when Chichester vanished from view.



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Posted 08 January 2024 - 11:45

I don't know why I missed this thread back in 2011.  I was rallying and sprinting in the south-east from about 1979 onwards and I do not recall ever hearing of Chichester Motoring Club.  There were other very active clubs in that area in the 1970s - Bognor Regis, Southsea and Cosmo.  They all used Goodwood for sprints and rallies but I never heard of Chichester running events there and as the most local club of all, surely they would have?  I can only imagine that the club either ran down and closed when its key members left/retired/died - something that did happen when a club relied on a few people to do everything - or it merged with another local club.  

 

Didn't the annual RACMSA Blue Books include a list of affiliated clubs?  If anyone had copies for around that time it might show when Chichester vanished from view.

 

The club was founded in 1951 (see above) and still going in 1972 1974 with Ditcham Hill Climb 

There was a hill climb at Ditcham, Chichester M.C., 8 September 1974.

FTD: Norman Hutchins (Mallock U2) 36.71 sec.

Autosport, 12 September 1974, Page 60

Presumably the last event held there?

Looks like Chichester Motoring Club Limited was wound up at the end of 1975.

The club did run events at Goodwood  driving tests known as "Goodwood Chicanery" in 1961 and earlier — 23 May 1959, 31 May 1958, 29 June 1957.

Other dates:

14 August 1954: Cattle Market, Chichester, Driving Tests

Chichester M.C.—The results of the driv-

ing tests held at Chichester on August 14

are as follows:

Open Cars—Under 1,500 c.c.

1. M.G. (K. C. Lane); 2. Ford (P. D. Franklin)

Over 1,500 c.c.

1. Triumph TR2 (W. Wadham); 2. Triumph TR2 (W. Wilcher)

Closed Cars—Under 1,500 c.c.

1. Renault (D. Silverthorne); 2. Renault (F. Cruttenden)

Over 1,500 c.c.

1. Sunbeam-Talbot (W. O. Holland);

2. Ford Zephyr (P. G. Rushbridger).

C.M.C. Challenge Cup: Triumph TR2 (W. Wadham)

31 May 1958:

Chichester M.C.—Driving test meeting, 31 May, Goodwood circuit. Cars

divided into five classes and entries limited to first 60. Entries to R. J. MacKay,

Woodcote Cottage, Goodwood, Nr. Chichester, by 26 May. Entry fee 15s,

team fee 7s 6d

 

2 July 1958: Oaklands Park, Chichester, Gymkhana

11 Jan 1959: Public car park, rear of Granada Cinema, Chichester, Rally C

2-3 Dec 1961: Farnham Lane Garage, Haslemere, Rally R 8:30 pm

27 Sept 1964: R.A.F. Tangmere, Inter-Area Driving Tests R

27 June 1965: R.A.F. Tangmere, Driving Tests

26 Sept 1965:  R.A.F. Tangmere, Inter-Area Team Driving Tests

19 June 1966: R.A.F. Tangmere, Driving Tests

7 July 1968: Southsea & Chichester M.C.s, R.A.F. Thorney Island, Emsworth, Hants, Sprint R 

 

A factor in the decline of the club was emigration. As we have seen key personnel were heading for the exits — active, get-up-and-go people got up and left. A Chairman, Clerk of the Course, Rally Secretary all gone. Road rallying was also on the decline due to public hostility. Did the Trentham 200 Rally go beyond 1963? 1967? The loss of places to race e.g. Goodwood, Firle, Brunton, Ditcham etc. All this knocked the stuffing out of this club.

By 1967 Tony Pettie was associated with Sutton and Cheam Motor Club?

With Ian Pettie ASCMC champions in 1971 and 1972.

 

RGDS RLT  


Edited by Rupertlt1, 14 October 2024 - 18:27.


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Posted 10 January 2024 - 10:52

FONTAINE INNS, LTD. have acquired a

long lease of "The Richmond Arms"

which is situated half a mile from Good-

wood, from the Duke of Richmond and

Gordon and it is proposed to carry out

extensive alterations and improvements.

Eric Brown, a director of the company,

who is well known for his motor sport-

ing exploits, including Brooklands and

more recently his driving of a D-type

engined Jaguar XK 120, has designed the

alterations and furnishings and will

supervise the work on the site.

Autosport, 26 January 1962, Page 114

The Jaguar was registered 1 ALL.

 

https://www.racingsp...c-Brown-GB.html

 

By 1963 members of the Chichester Motoring Club were meeting weekly on Friday nights at the Richmond Arms Hotel, Trundle Bar, Waterbeach, for a 'Noggin & Natter'.

 

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Posted 10 January 2024 - 11:45

Looks like Chichester Motoring Club Limited was wound up at the end of 1975.

The club did run events at Goodwood  driving tests known as "Goodwood Chicanery" in 1961 and earlier — 23 May 1959, also 1958, 29 June 1957.

 

A factor in the decline of the club was emigration. As we have seen key personnel were heading for the exits — active, get-up-and-go people got up and left. A Chairman, Clerk of the Course, Rally Secretary all gone. Road rallying was also on the decline due to public hostility. Did the Trentham 200 Rally go beyond 1963? 1967? The loss of places to race e.g. Goodwood, Firle, Brunton, Ditcham etc. All this knocked the stuffing out of this club.

By 1967 Tony Pettie was associated with Sutton and Cheam Motor Club?

With Ian Pettie ASCMC champions in 1971 and 1972.

 

RGDS RLT  

I was thinking of the period 1970s-80s at Goodwood when it was an active sprint venue and became used quite a bit for single venue stage rallies.  But no sign of CMC in that period that I recall (but memory isn't what it was!). 

 

I knew the Pettie brothers from when I was a Sutton and Cheam member in the 1970s as they were pretty active in road rallies at that time

 

I think we can assume that CMC probably died the death as did many other clubs due to a decline in active members.



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Posted 10 January 2024 - 12:40

Eric Brown, a director of the company,

who is well known for his motor sport-

ing exploits, including Brooklands and

more recently his driving of a D-type

engined Jaguar XK 120, 

Autosport, 26 January 1962, Page 114

The Jaguar was registered 1 ALL.

 

 

 

It is often funny the things that stick in your memory. I recall at least 60 years ago a photograph in the Autocar  of 1ALL as a light coloured car at the Brighton Speed Trials. The thing which reminds me of it is the fact, from a possibly flawed memory…., that the headlights were recessed into the leading curved edge of the front wings, rather than their usual position.

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Posted 11 January 2024 - 17:15

Trentham 200 Rally, Chichester Motoring Club, 2-3 December 1961:

Enthusiasts' Corner

Arrangements for Chichester

Motoring Club's Trentham 200

rally, a R.A.C. restricted event which

counts for the rally driver and rally

navigator championships, to be held

tomorrow night and Sunday morning,

are going well, reports chief rally

organizer Peter Hewitt.

The entry limit of 60 has been

reached, and includes entries from

more than 20 clubs in the Central

Southern Association of Motoring

Clubs. Clubs from as far away as

North London the Cotswolds and the

Isle of Wight will take part in the

all-night.

This is a big event and it has taken

a lot of organizing. About 45 marshals

are needed, and Peter Hewitt will be

glad to hear of anyone interested in

taking on those duties.

There will be some 67 control points

which have to be manned in both

sections of the rally, and some

marshals will be making quick dashes

from one section to the next in order

to cope.

The rally will cover Hants, Sussex,

Berks and Wiltshire, and will start at

Haslemere. There will be stop at

Micheldever, north of Winchester,

during the night, for rest and refresh-

ments, and the rally will end at

Winchester, breakfast being from 7:30

onwards.

In the competition for the associa-

tion's champion rally driver, Graham

Tatford of Southsea, is well in the

lead. His navigator Tony Yoward,

of Chichester Motoring Club, is

favourite for the title of champion

navigator.

 

RGDS RLT


Edited by Rupertlt1, 11 January 2024 - 17:21.


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Posted 13 January 2024 - 10:21

For the hillclimbing exploits of John Barnes see:

 

https://forums.autos...b/#entry9049376

 

His Elva Mk 7 was built in Sussex. Registration 444 MBP.

 

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Posted 24 January 2024 - 12:06

 

White Austin Healey Sprite, 222 PPE (Surrey registration). Valerie Davison in the Austin Healey Sprite, 2080 PO. In 1963 she was on the committee of the Chichester Motoring Club, operating from the Blue Star Garages, Northgate, Chichester. The car was owned by Charles Page. Also John Barnes in the Turner 950S, registration 6565 PO, known as the Six-Five Special. Also red pre-war Morris, registration PN 8549.

 

Said to be a Bognor Regis auto-test — can anybody identify the event — I suspect 1962?

Could it be Mr. Angus Henshaw in a 1936 Morris 8 Tourer?

 

Wednesday 20th June 1962, "Motorsport" at the Esplanade, Bognor Regis, 6.15 p.m.

(Programme says Friday but wasn't the 20th a Wednesday?)

PN 8549:

"The oldest car taking part in the Motorsport organized by Bognor Regis Motor Club on the Esplanade last week was Mr C. J. Pratt's 1931 Morris Minor gaily painted in red and yellow."

 

"The outright winner for the Motor-

sport Challenge Cup was 42-year-old

Ron Randall of Woodford, Essex,

who chalked up his fifth win in

four weeks."

#17 R. Randall, 1962 M.G. Midget, EOO 370, 948 cc

 

RGDS RLT


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Posted 24 January 2024 - 16:39

That's definitely Bugger Bognor.  There was/is some loophole that allowed them to close the road along the sea-front - presumably it is owned by the local council rather than being public highway.  Similar thing allows the use of the sea front roads of New Brighton and Blackpool for rally stages, along with Madeira Drive in (old) Brighton for the Speed Trials.  All have been overtaken by the fairly recent legislation that FINALLY allowed road closure for motorsport.  Although I think the Green Party Brighton & Hove Council have stopped the Speed Trials this year.

 

EDIT:  apparently there are other issues re the Speed Trials and it is not all the Greens' fault.  Although they DID try to stop it a few years ago and had to back down after an outcry.


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Posted 24 January 2024 - 17:14

The history of this event goes back to 1951 with "Motorsport" being held on the Esplanade by permission of Bognor Regis U.D.C.

The first event attracted 4,000 spectators.

 

Wednesday 22 June 1960, Association of Central Southem M.C.s, gymkhana, Bognor Regis Esplanade, 6 p.m.

 

Wednesday 21 June 1961.

 

Wednesday 20th June 1962.

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Posted 26 January 2024 - 05:34

Concours d'Elegance, Southsea Motor Club, Castle Field, 29 May 1960

Premier Awards — Blossom Trophy (most attractive car in opposite class):

Charles Page, Austin Healey Sprite, 1960

Prizegiving at Club HQ at Hilsea

Hampshire Telegraph, Friday 3 June 1960, Page 2, column 7

 

In 1958 Charles Page, Northgate, Chichester, won the Premier Award at the same event:

Grand Prix d'Honneur — The Miles trophy 

with #50 Austin Healey 100/6, registration PX 33?

His passenger was Miss J. Cooper

This was the Southsea Motor Club's jubilee year.

He won the Blossom Trophy in 1957 with the same car.

Portsmouth Evening News, Monday 30 June 1958, Page 8

 

1957: The Day Trophy, for the most attractive car entered within a radius of 20 miles of Portsmouth, went to Mr. C. L. R. Page of Chichester for his shining two-tone Austin Healey Sports.

 

1955: Open cars to over 1,300c.c.: Mr. C. L. R. Page (Triumph).

 

RGDS RLT


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Posted 29 January 2024 - 16:28

The Chichester Motoring Club ran the Ditcham Hill Climb between June 1968 and September 1972. For the last two years they operated with the BARC (South East Centre). I tried to find the Chichester MC without result.

 

We now know that Ditcham Hill Climb ran until Sunday 8 September 1974 — see Autosport, 12 September 1974 — probably one of the last events run by Chichester Motoring Club?

(Brunton run by B.A.R.C. SW had packed up in 1970.)

The course was close to South Harting, which had hosted hill climbs in the 1920s and before the First World War?

 

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Edited by Rupertlt1, 30 January 2024 - 02:27.


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Posted 03 February 2024 - 02:25

Two names that appear in the 1963 membership list:

P. C. Wadham, Rest-a-wyle, Wallis Road Waterlooville

W. H. Wadham, Copt Heath, Hambledon Road, Denmead

Peter and Wilfred Wadham, known international rallyists —

seen on the Monte, Tulip and R.A.C.

Also known for a chain of garages, including around that

time Wadhams Ltd, at Southgate, Chichester.

Also listed E. Brinkman, Chequers Lane, Bosham.

Eric Brinkman, also seen on those same events, in the

fifties and sixties.

 

RGDS RLT


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Posted 15 September 2024 - 06:31

CHICHESTER MOTORING CLUB

Members are requested to stir

themselves from their firesides

tonight for the annual meeting

at the Richmond Arms. Signing

on time 8 p.m. approximately.

The sixth of the present series

of driving test meetings will be

held tomorrow at the Goodwood

Brown Car Park. Organised by

Gerry Clear, the event will start

at 2.30 p.m.

On Sunday members will try

out Warner's Farm, Selsey, as a

possible venue for an autocross

meeting. If found suitable the

farm could become the scene of

motor racing on grass.

Bognor Regis Observer, Friday 11 October 1963, Page 12

 

The Brown Car Park at Goodwood at that time was on the outside of the circuit on the approach to Lavant Corner.

RGDS RLT


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Posted 16 September 2024 - 06:16

Hi All

First many thanks to all that supported my search so far. I just have received a phone call from John Taylor of the Southsea Motoring Club. He came with an excellent and exciting piece of information. One of the members of the club "Graham" seen the car and is adamant that it was previously own by a Charlie Page of chichester from what we beleive is 1960 to 1964. This clearly tie up with what Mrs Starley told me. Her husband bought it with the same livery from a Page Garage in Chichester. Aside being the owner of the Page garage in Chichester that subsequently became the Blue Star Garage, Charlie was also actively involved in Sprint, Autotest and Hillclimbs. So I assume he was the one that did most modifications to the car. If anyone has some information on the events Charlie Page took part into or period pictures this would be of a tremdous aded value to my project

Kind regards to all

 

CHICHESTER MOTORING CLUB

Charles Page, the club's chair-

man, is to sail to South Africa

on June 4 to take up a new job.

He will become manager of the

Bergvliet Service Station, a

fairly large garage some 13 miles

from Cape Town.

For Charles, who is 53, it will

be a "home-from-home" move.

He spent eight years in South

Africa as manager of another

garage, returning to Chichester

nine years ago. He has numerous

friends in the Cape area and was

a member of the Rotary Club,

which he hopes to rejoin.

His fellow club members

treated him to a surprise fare-

well dinner on Friday. He went

to the Globe Hotel with Gerry

Wearne, the vice-chairman, ex-

pecting to meet two other mem-

bers for dinner. Instead he was

welcomed by 24 people who had

laid on a special meal. Later

Gerry Wearne presented him with

a brief case given by the club.

Charles Page is also a member

of the Austin Healey Club, the

Austin Seven Club, and a founder

member of Southsea Motor Club.

DIVISIONAL MANAGER

When he returned from South

Africa nine years ago he bought

a garage in North Street, Chiches-

ter, which became known as

Page's Garage. Later this was

taken over by Blue Star Garages

Ltd., of which he became the

divisional manager, covering 25

garages.

Valerie Davison, another mem-

ber of Chichester Motoring Club,

took over the management of

Page's Garage until Charles

returned, a year later, having 

completed extensive re-organiza-

tion.

Before World War II he used

to race at Brooklands, and during

his first period in South Africa

he became a professional driver.

The car which he built, and sold

on leaving the country, later won

a South African grand prix.

During the "interregnum"

between June 4 and the next

annual meeting Gerry Wearne is

to be acting Chairman and Peter

Musgrave the acting vice-chair-

man.

Bognor Regis Observer, Friday 29 May 1964, Page 8

 

According to my AA Members Handbook, 1959-60, the Globe Hotel, two-stars, was in South Street, Chichester.

RGDS RLT


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Posted 21 September 2024 - 06:19

CHICHESTER MOTORING CLUB

"In place of the social run, a

club night will be held in the

circuit bar of the Swan Hotel

at Westhampnett at 7.30 p.m."

Bognor Regis Observer, Friday 25 June 1965, Page 21

 

This establishment has disappeared without trace?

The Circuit Bar was at the White Swan Inn, (adjacent to the Chichester Motel, A Watney Lyon Motel, which opened Monday 14th December 1964).

The White Swan Inn never appeared in the B.A.R.C. Yearbooks as a place to stay near Goodwood,

while being within walking distance (1¼ miles) via Madgwick Lane and Claypit Lane.

"Chichester Motoring Club may

make the White Swan at West-

hampnett its permanent social

headquarters.

Originally it was planned that

the inn should be used only

until such time as the club

acquired its own premises. But

the Swan has become so popular

with Chichester members on

social evenings that the move

may become permanent.

Said competitions secretary Bill

Sykes: "The Swan's facilities are

ideal. Our last event there

attracted over 40 members. We

shall certainly be using it as

our social headquarters for the

next few months."

Chichester's next social event

will be held on Friday May 28.

The fourth in the present series,

it is being organized by Secretary

Peggy Helyer."

Bognor Regis Observer, Friday 21 May 1965, Page 20 

RGDS RLT


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Posted 13 November 2024 - 10:41

Starley Garage • Bosch Diagnostic Service

All makes, models, Carburation fuel

injection, Bosch petrol & diesel injection

service, 24-32 Hythe Road, Fiveways,

Brighton

Autocar, 1 April 1998, Page 174

 

See here.

 

RGDS RLT


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Posted 14 November 2024 - 06:54

CHICHESTER MOTORING CLUB

Chichester's Regnum Rally

series will continue this evening

(Friday) after the summer break

with an event organized by Les

Boyce.

The rally will start from

Rowe's Garage, Chichester, at

7.30 p.m., and will finish at the

club's Friday night "head-

quarters" at the White Swan,

Westhampnett.

Incidentally, Chichester has

been asked to organize the

Association of Central Southern

Motor Club's inter-area team

driving test championship.

The event will be held at R.A.F.

Tangmere on Sunday, September

26. Teams from all over the

South—and some from the Mid-

lands—are expected to take part.

Bognor Regis Observer, Friday 17 September 1965, Page 23

 

D. Rowe & Company, The Hornet, Chichester (Ford main dealers).

"P. G. Musgrave is now used car manager of D. Rowe and Co. Ltd., The Hornet, Chichester, Sussex."

Autocar, 15 May 1964, Page 969

Peter Musgrave seen in Triumph TR3; 1959 Austin Healey Sprite, 8256 PO; Ford Cortina GT and T.M.S. II (1172) driving test special.

Resident at Funtington.

See: https://forums.autos.../#entry10479147

RGDS RLT


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Posted 15 November 2024 - 06:17

Why is this topic holding my attention?

The club is gone, the pub is gone (also Watney's), the Ford dealer is gone (building demolished).

The road rallies are gone, the driving tests too.

The hillclimb is gone, the sprints are gone.

Tangmere no longer hosts events. The Dutton factory is gone.

Mostly the cars are gone.

Overall it is a lost world.

What existed in my lifetime is slipping away unless documented.

Chichester Motoring Club is like many car clubs. Gone.

RGDS RLT


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Posted 15 November 2024 - 17:16

Why is this topic holding my attention?

It's not called the Nostalgia Forum for nothing!

 

And I think the Dutton factory is still going in Littlehampton, right on the River Arun so they can launch their amphibious cars.